Shah Rukh Khan, worlds biggest movie star - Page 20

Originally posted by: srkjuhi

Thanks firstly for calling me delusional...😆.

If you have read any of my posts , you would know I never undermined Pitt's or Leo's or TC's success. If anything I have been saying that this notion that the stardom there begins and ends with TC is preposterous considering I come from a generation where I did see the hysteria that surrounded Pitt. I also come from a generation that did see the hysteria that surrounded Shahrukh and still does. So saying that the hysteria that surrounds Hollywood star is exclusive , I don't even know what that means but I'll put that aside and move to what you said next. The comparison you drew between TC and Daniel is weird to say the least considering TC has been there for more than two decades now. But I can turn that whole argument around and tell you to go to a fan who has grown up not on TC movies but on Harry Potter books and movies and for that person , Daniel Radcliffe would be huge.

As for my delusional , it ain't really delusion if you know about the hysteria that surrounded the stars back in the 70s or 80's or even now.

Of course majority in Europe won't care as Indians films aren't released on as wide a scale as a Hollywood film is. Like in India many won't care for most of the stuff that Hollywood churns out every year.

Originally posted by: kritz.anYa.vivu

I have grown up reading, watching, dreaming and breathing Harry Potter films/books . we love it, and i can really kill for Potter but again i know the truth, Daniel is Harry potter for the world, for me, but apart from that he is yet to prove himself. Why i drew this comparison is because i have seen how Hollywood fans and media totally dismisses to call Pitt and Clooney as big stars as TC but they criticize Daniel Radcliff for not living up to what they expected. It is definitely and unfair comparison as you said that TC is four decades old and DR is a kid. HW is not like BW in a sense that they do not compare the young brigade with their legends whereas every other day BW releases articles on how Ranbir kapoor is the next SRK and Ranveer is the next Hrithik , and this is disrespectful . There fore i said the hysteria and insane stardom enjoyed by the stars like TC and Pitt are Exclusive , they will deliver flops but still remain the biggest for many people in the world.

Anybody who compares apples with oranges are delusional, i did not mean to offend you but i apologize as you have taken it seriously .

at your last three lines so you agree most europe fans do not care about BW, and therefore they definitely do not care about Shahrukh being the biggest movie star . Yes indians do not care about HW, but dude India is one country, the rest of the world cares and cares for real . America does not care about Shahrukh and bollywood, and they do not need to even prove that rest of the world cares for HW .

Oh boy. I'm not even sure where you are getting at with some of the stuff you said in there. Pitt and Clooney are dismissed? What media have you been following man! I haven't seen either of them being dismissed. They are freaking huge. I don't even understand where you are going with the Daniel comparison there. Of course you can't compare a Daniel to a TC! That doesn't mean there haven't been comparisons in Hollywood. They might not be on the scale they are here but doesn't mean they don't exist altogether. The same goes for many here BTW! The Khans have gone through their share of not so great phases but are still considered huge by plenty out there. That is what defines superstar that you can come out of those phases and even during those phases your fans will stick by you.

I don't get offended that easily but I'm also not someone who would throw words like delusional or stupid out there to invalidate someone else's opinion. So you basically are saying the same thing that folks here indeed are comparing apples and oranges when they talk about earnings...blah...blah of Hollywood stars as compared to Bollywood stars? 😆

But dude America is one country too! And you so did not get my point. I was talking about the reach a bollywood film has as compared to a hollywood film. Of course a hollywood film has a bigger reach. Doesn't mean there aren't fans in Europe who don't watch Shahrukh movies! Plenty do! Plenty in America as well watch his movies! Plenty in Pakistan , Indonesia , Malaysia etc do as well. So again what's your point? 😆 "Rest of the world" I'm guessing isn't just made up of America!

Originally posted by: srkjuhi

Oh boy. I'm not even sure where you are getting at with some of the stuff you said in there. Pitt and Clooney are dismissed? What media have you been following man! I haven't seen either of them being dismissed. They are freaking huge. I don't even understand where you are going with the Daniel comparison there. Of course you can't compare a Daniel to a TC! That doesn't mean there haven't been comparisons in Hollywood. They might not be on the scale they are here but doesn't mean they don't exist altogether. The same goes for many here BTW! The Khans have gone through their share of not so great phases but are still considered huge by plenty out there. That is what defines superstar that you can come out of those phases and even during those phases your fans will stick by you.

I don't get offended that easily but I'm also not someone who would throw words like delusional or stupid out there to invalidate someone else's opinion. So you basically are saying the same thing that folks here indeed are comparing apples and oranges when they talk about earnings...blah...blah of Hollywood stars as compared to Bollywood stars? 😆

But dude America is one country too! And you so did not get my point. I was talking about the reach a bollywood film has as compared to a hollywood film. Of course a hollywood film has a bigger reach. Doesn't mean there aren't fans in Europe who don't watch Shahrukh movies! Plenty do! Plenty in America as well watch his movies! Plenty in Pakistan , Indonesia , Malaysia etc do as well. So again what's your point? 😆 "Rest of the world" I'm guessing isn't just made up of America!

Originally posted by: Heisenberg1

Name call?, I called your argument stupid, not you. Learn to differentiate.

It's all relative, SRK is relatively smaller than Tom Cruise, in the same way Manoj Tiwari is smaller than SRK. Bollywood doesn't make a lot of sense to most people of the world either. Even from a fanbase size, the diversity and number of fans of Tom Cruise is greater than SRK. As I said, under any metric, Tom Cruise is the bigger star.

You could say SRK is the biggest Indian actor in the world. But the world's biggest movie star, no where near.

this is still going on ?
and name calling has started too ?

Originally posted by: GERUA

this is still going on ?
and name calling has started too ?

Originally posted by: SunHarsh4eva

You know it's incredible that he's sane and infact so humble till today when anybody at his place would actually lose it because the fame and money he has after having a bad childhood and becoming this big just at the age when usually stars were never made into gods ..

He's probably the only one who worked with all the famous directors in Hollywood except Tarantino , cruise has a resume which most actors die for and it's a versatile one too .

There's one more article from Forbes you must read that , it's unreal but true that he never had a flop in his name since top gun ..

And his Japanese fans r so cute , who the hell declares a national holiday for a movie star ? It's great that they truly love him and he infact never ever shot a film in japan but I guess the last samurai was so well accepted that they rewarded him .

I love his movies more than I love Tom , watching his films is such a pleasure , never disappoints me .

Originally posted by: Heisenberg1

Name call?, I called your argument stupid, not you. Learn to differentiate.

It's all relative, SRK is relatively smaller than Tom Cruise, in the same way Manoj Tiwari is smaller than SRK. Bollywood doesn't make a lot of sense to most people of the world either. Even from a fanbase size, the diversity and number of fans of Tom Cruise is greater than SRK. As I said, under any metric, Tom Cruise is the bigger star.

You could say SRK is the biggest Indian actor in the world. But the world's biggest movie star, no where near.

Are you giving lessons in that too now because I'll love to take them :) I could call your "argument " a lot of things as well but I I'd rather debate here in a manner that isn't so petty so by all means call it "stupid" "delusional", whatever you wish to. Says more about the merit of your argument than anything else.

Wow! Manoj Tiwari is a regional star for crying out loud. Shahrukh is a global star. So again you are back to comparing apples and oranges. It's like saying a person who plays Ranji level cricket is as big a star as someone who plays for the national team. A regional star in any country out there would not be as big as someone who is more widely watched.

As for Shahrukh and Tom Cruise...please define the metric. Define your benchmark. I'm going by the interview here. The interview talks about his reach as an Indian star. The interview talks about his fanbase and how wide it's. Considering the population alone of India , it is easy to see why they would call him the biggest. As for diversity , I'm guessing him having fans in countries like China , Germany , SL , Malaysia , Pakistan , UAE , Finland , Sweden are all marks of how diverse his fanbase is.

SRK IS THE BIGGEST INDIAN ACTOR IN THE WORLD. PERIOD.

srkjuhi ab rehne do yaar... evryone is entitled to their own opinion... leave it. 😊

Originally posted by: kritz.anYa.vivu

the kind of media I follow is seeming to be different from the ones you follow, who denied that Pitt and Clooney are huge, what i said is that even now TC is considered to be bigger star than Pitt and Clooney, that is the reason this thread and even many articles have compared Shah with TC .

so basically hat i have understood from your theory is that you are saying why is TC dragged into the whole argument when Pitt and Clooney are equally big ( your opinion ) ?

There is no point of debating over which industry is bigger because HW will win by miles, but as i am somebody who watches both the industry , i can speak for myself , i found it delusional when you said that BW has the same hysteria like HW has, in India yes, but not in any other country. And let us put America aside, as i said Europe and other countries HW has more audience than BW .

Yes plenty in countries like Malaysia and Indonesia, Pakistan watch Shah, but do they consider him bigger than TC ? You are entitled to your opinion, nobody asked you to agree with Shah not being the biggest but the debate you have put has been pretty much monotonous now, i am not even comparing Shah with TC, and honestly why compare them ? Comparison between TC and Pitt is reasonable, Comparison between Shah and Salman is reasonable, but comparison between TC and Shah ? If i am not a die hard Shah fan, what arguments do i have to put in favor of Shah ? His legacies are not in any format better than TC , as Heisenberg has said that in most metrics and in pop culture TC is the more popular one .

My arguments are just as monotonous as the counter arguments in here to begin with :)

Please go back and look who brought up TC here at the first place! A fan of Tom Cruise brought him up. As for which media I follow , I follow the media the same media that still goes crazy over Pitt and Clooney. I follow the same media that has talked about Pitt and Clooney in the same way it has talked about TC!

My opinion is I have no issue with you or anyone dragging TC into it. But to say stardom begins and ends with him is what I find preposterous. As for Pitt and Clooney , they have been brought up to show they bring out the same kind of hysteria that a TC does. Hope my opinion to you is now clear enough :)

I watch cinema coming out of both countries as well. I don't think you have followed my posts at all because if you did ,you would know I have stated numerous times as to how one can't compare bollywood and hollywood in the way it has been compared here. From comparing earnings , to budgets , to BO collection when it's darn clear that in all three Hollywood leads. America is a developed nation , we are still in the process of it so of course that'll reflect in the industry too.

It's not delusional at all considering you talked about hysteria about Hollywood stars and I said the same hysteria surrounds Bollywood stars. Hysteria is the kind of passion with which the fans and the media follows them. And the hysteria for Bollywood stars isn't just restricted to India. The kind of craze you see amongst the overseas fan is just as intense if not more. If a TC or anyone showing up at a premiere in London will have fans lining up for him then so would a Shahrukh.

As for Hollywood having more audience in other countries...duhhh! That's because their movies are released on a wider scale.

This is hilarious on pretty much every level. You are asking me why I'm comparing. Kindly, like I said before , go back and look who started the comparison. You think a TC is bigger in Pakistan than Shahrukh? Oh okay...wow! This notion that because TC is a big star , he'd be bigger in every corner of the world is preposterous. As for Shahrukh's legacy not being better than TC...ha! You are entitled to your opinion on that , I have mine :)