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Posted: 10 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: rogerrocks



Not really..You can make a mark in simple romcoms too..Ranbir's breakthrough performance was in WUS which was a Dharma production..Its still one of his best performances IMO..So its not like Dharma always produces trash..Infact, KJo is million times a better mentor than Adi Chopra..Look what Karan has done to Alia & what Adi did to Pari whose debut performance was infinite times better than that of Alia..So i get why they don wanna let go of KJo but yeah, they should look for other options too simply because KJo is not that reliable in the long run IMO 😆



Ya but if i am a Sid fan, i would have higher expectations and wishes for him and want him to do other things too😆. Romcoms will make you saif ali khan, looteras will make you aamir khan after many years and one has to plan, think and decide early which level u wanna reach - this was exactly what i told ranveer a month back😆 scolding him for doing killdil🤣...also look at biru...he is trying different things already...
another thing- i also don't feel Sid is cut for romcom, he has brooding gud looks better suited for serious or glamorous movies...

Regarding WUS, i don't see anytime soon Sid getting ayan mukherjee movie...this is where aquablue complaints seem valid that he doesnt get gud directors or scripts in dharma.

In any case, sid has to look out to other prod houses if he wants to develop further...otherwise he will stagnate IMO.


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Posted: 10 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: Neela-Paani


No thats not what I meant.Definitely dont want Kjo to baby sit Sid anymore.Personally tweeted Sid to stop following Kjo blindly and start looking out for good work himself,if he wants to survive in BW at all.Sid choosing K & S to replace a promising Bhavesh has really upset me.I really wish he rejects the side roles of Kjo,be brave and explore more possibilities out of Dharma.By the previous post I meant,Alia never receives the same amount of flack,what Sid gets for repeatedly working with Kjo.Its unfair imo.thats all:)

@Roger:Thank you for clearing that for me :)😃 And I agree with what u said..no choice but to wait for Sid's own Highway lol...which I dont see happening in near future thanks to his annoying script selection😆..playing side role in same old Dharma romcoms😆..Excel movie is the only promising venture as of now



yes, working with motwane would have done wonders for him in terms of development as an actor... it's a real pity he is now stuck with kapoor n sons..aghhh


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Posted: 10 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: .Hajmola.

To bag ''roles with great significance..different genres to show versatility" too IMO one has to establish himself/herself as star. Else after a point people move away. Look at what happened to Abhay Deol the messiah of indie cinema. The same directors whom he supported then have turned their backs on him and moved on to more popular people.



Yes I agree.Working in movies that succeed commercially at B.O is very important when u are a newbie.Cuz if u aspire to be star,u need to build a solid fanbase.SOTY must be worst movie in Sid or Varun's career but that movie helped them in creating a teen female fanbase.which is a plus,cuz the youth and school going kids are target audience of most movies.I think HSKD was a fine selection by Varun(Irrespective of my personal opinion on movie's script,direction)His role was equally important as Alia's(unlike HTP),received positive reaction from critics,hit songs,entertainer which will have repeat audience..Then he moved on to a comparatively dark Badlapur.Alia's next xShandaar is usual cute romcom while UP has the label of different cinema.Then K&S commercial venture,followed by niche movie Rabta.Yes balancing act is very important.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: KhanSinghTomar



Ya but if i am a Sid fan, i would have higher expectations and wishes for him and want him to do other things too😆. Romcoms will make you saif ali khan, looteras will make you aamir khan after many years and one has to plan, think and decide early which level u wanna reach - this was exactly what i told ranveer a month back😆 scolding him for doing killdil🤣...also look at biru...he is trying different things already...
another thing- i also don't feel Sid is cut for romcom, he has brooding gud looks better suited for serious or glamorous movies...

Regarding WUS, i don't see anytime soon Sid getting ayan mukherjee movie...this is where aquablue complaints seem valid that he doesnt get gud directors or scripts in dharma.

In any case, sid has to look out to other prod houses if he wants to develop further...otherwise he will stagnate IMO.




He has just started out though..I don see anything wrong with him going for commercial films..And its a very bad idea to antagonize KJo at this point especially cos he is an outsider..So i don think he has that much of a choice..Just like i don really blame Ranveer for doing YRF films as much as i blame Adi for making such pathetic films in the first place..No one wants to go against their mentor/ the guy who gave them their first break so early in their career..And Karan in comparison is giving decent films to Sid..Nothing pathbreaking but not as horrible as Kill Dill either..Karan Malhotra is one of the better directors from the Dharma camp & i do think Brothers will do exceptionally well so its not as bad as its made out to be..

@ bold- Well thats not Karan's fault 😆 Ayaan is obsessed with Ranbir so i don really think he wants to work with anyone else at this point 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: Neela-Paani



Yes I agree.Working in movies that succeed commercially at B.O is very important when u are a newbie.Cuz if u aspire to be star,u need to build a solid fanbase.SOTY must be worst movie in Sid or Varun's career but that movie helped them in creating a teen female fanbase.which is a plus,cuz the youth and school going kids are target audience of most movies.I think HSKD was a fine selection by Varun(Irrespective of my personal opinion on movie's script,direction)His role was equally important as Alia's(unlike HTP),received positive reaction from critics,hit songs,entertainer which will have repeat audience..Then he moved on to a comparatively dark Badlapur.Alia's next xShandaar is usual cute romcom while UP has the label of different cinema.Then K&S commercial venture,followed by niche movie Rabta.Yes balancing act is very important.


While balance is good...sometimes things dont work out as expected. Ranbir's current mess is the biggest proof. A commercial success is always better than a critical success with a flop tag/average tag. But what is important though is the confidence that an actor can act well if required. SidM is yet to prove himself on that front...it doesnt matter if he proves the same in a commercial or critical success. Actually proving himself an actor in a commercial success is always better due greater exposure to general public. I dont think SidM has anything to fear atm..not till he gives back to back 2-3 flops.

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Posted: 10 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: KhanSinghTomar




you are stuck with ayan mukherjee...dharma doesn't have more directors like that... he makes one movie every 5 years...n if ayan ever decides to work with others except ranbir..it's not a guarantee he will choose sid..
Varun excels in movies like HSKD n he will keep excelling but he took a break n suddenly did badlapur..he was not great but got a lot of admiration... Sid doesn't have strength on movies like HSKD... ek villain was a hit... u have to consider what plays to the strength of the actor... Sid can do really well in non-dharma kinda movies...

My point is if you are hoping a movie like YJHD will come to Sid from dharma and he will be superstar due to that, very slim chances😊. KJo is not giving movies wisely to sid...if he really was keen to improve sid's career, he should have provided shuddi to Sid



Shuddhi to Sid is a good idea. I think KJo fears giving a very big budget movie like that to anyone apart from the 3 Khans, HR who can guarantee a 100cr just with their names. But lets see if Shuddhi ever happens.
Also lets not forget when YJHD was being shot Ayan had only WUS in his CV which was an average grossing romcom. No one expected the same guy would give a commercial BB like YJHD.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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But Sid's biggest hit Ek Villain wasn't a Dharma movie, right? 😕 So he is already doing well outside Dharma . I don't like him...but how does that matter? Facts are facts. 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
#59

Originally posted by: rogerrocks



Ranveer has been doing movies not just from yrf😊, not even co-productions...lootera, ramleela, DDD, all were complete non-yrf.

Ranveer did Gunday because it was his childhood wish to do a movie like sholay based in 70s. he fulfilled his dream.
Ranveer did Killdil because it had Govinda (his lifetime fav), shaad Ali (his real connection to bollywood). He has done them not because Adi suggested him to do it.

yes, antagonizing is not what i suggest.. but he needs to have some bones and say to KJo, ''this movie doesn't play to my strengths, i dn't wanna do it''
i have a feeling KJo is bit controlling compared to adi... adi wants you to do what u want n how u want, kjo wants his students to do it his way...

He has just started out though..I don see anything wrong with him going for commercial films-- this is complacency, he has to break out at some point soon.
Sid wont get a big director immediately but he has to do non-dharma movie with a good enough director so that other non-dharma directors can see he is willing to take new roles... there is no reason why sid cannot do badlapur...but if he remains busy with movies like kapoors n sons😆, it will use up his time..

i m not a sid fan as i havent watched his movie yet but i can see he will lag behind Varun if he doesn't do something new, build links outside dharma, challenge himself.



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Posted: 10 years ago
#60
Commercially...Sid doesn't need to worry...he has one 100 cr movie which is really good for a newcomer
People praised him after Ek Villain for trying something new with his 3rd movie
Varun will keep on doing his masala/commercial roles (MTH, HSKD,Dilwale, His brother's film, ABCD2) Badlapur was the only film he experimented with
I don't see Sid lagging behind Varun in that sense.

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