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.Iconoclast.

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Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

#101

Originally posted by: Gubbara.

you want shariah and MPL Ina secular democracy?lol

Pork is not banned. So why don't muslims eat it ? Because of religion?
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Personally, I endorse Uniform Civil Code. My argument is more based on personal laws of minority religions. Implementing UCC takes away their constitutional right to freedom of religion.

Muslims don't eat Pork. Some Hindus don't eat Beef. Why ban anything because it hurts some religious sentiments?

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taurean12

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Posted: 11 years ago

#102

They can ban all they want..the question is who is going to implement and monitor this ban..police..judiciary..we all know how 'well' those entities work in India...this ban is just going to open up a black market for beef that's all...you think liquor is not available in Gujarat, you just pay more for it...

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firework

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Posted: 11 years ago

#103

There are different sides to this.

1966 - 2015 the minorities (assuming they eat beef) got what they wanted.
That's a long time for the other side (which exists) to NOT get what they want (ban beef).

170	Maharashtra	Hindu	77,859,385	40,496,085	37,363,300
171	Maharashtra	Muslim	10,270,485	5,437,926	4,832,559
172	Maharashtra	Christian	1,058,313	530,975	527,338
173	Maharashtra	Sikh	215,337	117,736	97,601
174	Maharashtra	Buddhist	5,838,710	2,977,607	2,861,103
175	Maharashtra	Jain	1,301,843	670,236	631,607
176	Maharashtra	Other Religious Communities	236,841	119,113	117,728

In short democracy will never ever be pleased. Everyone can't be expected to be treated equally when the demands are so different (Ban beef, don't ban beef, don't care).

It will be interesting to see how long this beef ban lasts.

Edited: Nvm not from 1966 but seems to have always been the case. In 1966 the process was first initiated, but dismissed.

Edited by firework - 11 years ago

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.Iconoclast.

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Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

#104

Originally posted by: fire_gun
australia is secular country ...they has uniform civil code...and muslisms and other religions following that code without any trouble...

I don't know much about Australia's constitution to make any argument. Just for whataboutism...eventhough idolatry is prohibited in all Abrahamic religions, almost all religious countries let Hindus practice their religion and build temples.

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firework

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Posted: 11 years ago

#105

Originally posted by: blue-ice
Gubbu...what about the Muslims who didn't CHOOSE India...but were born in India...?

What about those Hindus who were born in India and demand beef to be banned? They do exist. Are we going to ignore them? 😛

From 1966 to 2015 the ones who wanted to eat beef got what they want. Now the other side is getting what they want in Maharashtra. There are Maharashtrians who want beef to be banned.

Not like this beef ban is all over India.

Edited: Nvm not from 1966 but seems to have always been the case. In 1966 the process was first initiated, but dismissed.

Edited by firework - 11 years ago

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.Iconoclast.

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Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

#106

Originally posted by: firework

What about those Hindus who were born in India and demand beef to be banned? They do exist. Are we going to ignore them? 😛

Why demand ban? How's it affecting them if others consume beef?

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return_to_hades

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Posted: 11 years ago

#107

Originally posted by: NigelMolesworth

I don't know much about Australia's constitution to make any argument. Just for whataboutism...eventhough idolatry is prohibited in all Abrahamic religions, almost all religious countries let Hindus practice their religion and build temples.

I think UCC can and should work in India just as it does in most western nations.

There should not be separate marriage, divorce, inheritance, adoption laws based on religion. I think the UCC is more for simplifying the civic legal structure from the confusing communal present structure.

Polygamy is illegal in USA. That applies not just to Muslims but to Mormons and polygamy cults as well. It doesn't prevent consenting adults who choose to live in polyamorous relationships. Muslims and Mormons do engage in "religious" polygamy. The court however, recognizes only one.

Jews follow matrilineal inheritance. US inheritance laws are based on biological parentage and proportions based on income, number of siblings etc. The synagogue can still reject someone as a Jew if the mother is not Jewish, but how the court sees the relationship with parents is set.

The argument for gay marriage which more and more courts are accepting is also based on equity of civic law principle. A church or a mosque can reject gay couples or refuse gay marriages. However, the court cannot use religious beliefs to segregate rights of citizens.

It is not perfect, we still have major setbacks where certain organizations will not cover female contraception in their health care citing religious beliefs. (but will cover Viagara)

I think India could do very well to adopt such an equivalent legal structure. Although, minorities have valid reason to be wary because certain majority politicians are known to undermine minority interests.

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Posted: 11 years ago

#108

So do the people who really want beef end up smuggling it like drugs and alcohol ??? 😆😆😆

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return_to_hades

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Stunner

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Posted: 11 years ago

#109

Originally posted by: firework

What about those Hindus who were born in India and demand beef to be banned? They do exist. Are we going to ignore them? 😛

What about Hindus born in India, in Bombay, Maharashtra who want to eat beef?

What about vegetarians who were born in India and demand to ban all meat and animal products?

What about atheists born in India who want to ban religion?

How many "sentiments" can we appease?

The solution is simple.

Want to eat beef? Eat.

Don't want to eat beef? Don't. Don't even patronize beef serving restaurants. Many vegetarians don't enter a restaurant unless it is pure veg.