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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Heisenberg.



A documentary cannot create something that already exists so rampantly in Indian society, but it can expose these people and their sick mentality to the public. People think that once these rapists are caught, sentenced and thrown in jail, that justice is served, but no, these guys are not sorry for their actions, no repentance, no remorse, no realisation, nothing, if anything, they get a roof over their heads, food, a daily routine, and a place to hang out with others like them, probably a better deal than what they had outside.

These guys need to be shamed, society needs to know what they're dealing with, sweeping it underneath the carpet out of fear is giving more power to them, you can't start to tackle a problem if you're not aware of it.



A documentary cannot create but it can surely fuel such feelings further.

People are aware of what happens. But this is a culture that would rather lock up girls or avoid them than tackle men.

I have often discussed this with elders and most feel males are males and they are uncontrollable. Even parents fear their grown sons or encourage them. Most people then shift the onus to girls instead.

There are proverbs like toofan ki niyat theek nahin, kashti ko khud sambhalna hoga. Compare men to storm that is inevitable and women to hapless boat! The reactions even online proved how even highlights from documentary were reinforcing fear than start a serious debate on attitudes.

We have immense coverage on these issues but everytime there is same standard response - good girls don't get raped, 90% cases are fake, jeans, films or junk food are responsible etc. It's not achieved much except voyeurism and outrage.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I dont know, may be I can tell abt the part of Gujarat and last visit- Haridwar, I saw girls having and enjoying more freedom than I left India 15 years ago. Thats my general observation.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: blue-ice


@bold...some people are so shameless that its appaling🤢

Like I said my only concern is for the victim's families...previously I thought it is only about Nirbhaya but now it looks like there are more victims mentioned in the documentary..their consent to air this should be most important ..

I can understand completely why people are saying it shouldn't be aired...but in my opinion...we cannot avoid a problem by NOT facing it for whatever reason...I know it will be hard...but sometimes that is the only way...I feel that it is important to listen to these rapists and then people, psychology experts, police, legal experts, and most importantly...the woman have to speak against these rapists and emphasize how and why they are wrong...to make it clear...there is no way in hell that a rapist can be ever glorified ...but if u want to clean the shit ...ur hands might get a little dirty in the process...so yes it will be hurtful...yes it will be hard to listen...yes we will feel like killing those bas***ds...but isn't that we want...Don't you want Indians hurt enough to not tolerate another rape??...Just turning our face from a problem is not enough.


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Until it boils our blood..we won't do anything

It will only happen once we see how sick their minds can be (provided the victim's families are okay with it)
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ShylockHolmes

Let's be realist no documentery gona change anything

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bitter truth..
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: AllBlacks1

I dont know, may be I can tell abt the part of Gujarat and last visit- Haridwar, I saw girls having and enjoying more freedom than I left India 15 years ago. Thats my general observation.



Gujarat is better. But North India? Can't say.

I agree I would like to watch the live telecast of the rapist's execution instead.

No need to put him on TV like some celeb. Especially given how unrepentant and brazen he is.

If experts want to understand issues then show the documentary to them privately. Instead of airing it on national television at prime time.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Indians, they never want to accept the harsh truth .
Rape is a big crime in India and some Asian countries, but when ever the debate is on, they start providing stats and say we are better, USA has worse rate rapes. Seriously.

It's sadninig when USA has rape rates, but do you understand it's different? Does any one freaking understand that? USA rape cases are mainly from work places and college parties and also from domestic environments where people openly come up and say they didn't give consent, they were drunk, this that and everything... Am I defending them? Nope...never..It's a rape.
But you can't freaking compare it to what Indian women going through . No one will look at you or try to rape you walk in a bikini in USA, but indian women get raped in public transport, rural villages as a punishment, daily while traveling? W*F

Then they were bullied from society, because they got raped. Poor girl can never start her life again. in rural villages, people try to fix her marriage with the rapist..WHAT THE HELL..how any one can tolerate this shit.. This shitt is happening not only in india, sadly in few other countries, where women never have freedom like men to breathe.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: blue-ice

Skep ji...I understand what u r saying...trust me ...but I feel sad that people in India have lost hope...its a feeling of being stuck between a rock and a hard place...on one hand the girls are not safe...they are scared to go out and on the other hand people are not ready to watch a documentary just because it will further enhance the fear that they already have...The losers in this situation are the young girls who are not able to live and enjoy their life the way they should and deserve...tough situation to be in🤔


Reduce the crime graphic details to minimum and let it for viewers to just imagine how horrific it wad have been... but show the bigger part as how the crims were collected and tortured and punished.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I wasn't planning to watch it, but I'm going to watch it. I read somewhere some minister was saying it "shames India". When we have pricks like Akhilesh Yadav or his father, as chief minister India is already at shame.

Someone really ought to set some of these minister's ass on fire and then we might just see some change. I say create a documentary on their statements ["Boys will be boys, why hang rapists?" - Mulayam Singh Yadav ] and show it across the world. 😃
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Posted: 10 years ago
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'We Just Want Justice,' Parents of Nirbhaya, India's Daughter, Speak Out

All India | NDTV.com | Updated: March 04, 2015 17:24 IST
'We Just Want Justice,' Parents of Nirbhaya, India's Daughter, Speak Out
NEW DELHI: "I am sorry mummy... I gave you so much trouble," she said, taking her mother's hand and kissing it. Within seconds she stopped breathing.

She came to be known as "Nirbhaya" - fearless - the one who became the conscience of India and forced the country to soul-search about the safety of its women.

"I am sorry...those were her last words. Then the monitor flat-lined," her mother says in British filmmaker Leslee Udwin's documentary "India's Daughter", which will premiere on NDTV 24x7 at 9 pm on March 8, International Women's Day.

On 16 December 2012, the 23-year-old medical student was brutally assaulted and tortured with an iron rod on a moving bus by six men, one of them a 17-year-old. She was dumped on the road, naked and bleeding, along with her friend who was also attacked.

"I want to live," she told her mother at a Delhi hospital, and she fought for 13 days, as protests erupted across the country and even abroad.

One of the four men sentenced to death for the horrific assault, Mukesh Singh, has blamed the woman for the rape, displaying an appalling lack of remorse in an interview to Ms Udwin.

The woman's mother told NDTV, "Our daughter died in front of us. After that, if anyone abuses us, it doesn't affect us anymore. If anyone says anything after watching this documentary, it won't have any effect on me. I want to go everywhere and raise my voice. We want justice for our daughter and the culprits should be hanged. I also want justice for thousands of parents who may be like us."

Her father said, "Our judicial system is totally useless, our case is pending in court for more than two years, it's the third year now. It's been one year in the Supreme Court. Not even a single hearing has taken place and we have no idea when it will happen. If our high flying case is dealt with so lightly by the court, can you imagine what happens to the other cases?"

A fifth man involved in the attack, Ram Singh, was found dead in his cell in 2013. The 17-year-old, a minor, was sentenced to three years in a reform facility.

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/nirbhaya-rapist-blames-woman-says-she-should-not-have-fought-back-743720
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: SRK-BEBO

Indians, they never want to accept the harsh truth .

Rape is a big crime in India and some Asian countries, but when ever the debate is on, they start providing stats and say we are better, USA has worse rate rapes. Seriously.

It's sadninig when USA has rape rates, but do you understand it's different? Does any one freaking understand that? USA rape cases are mainly from work places and college parties and also from domestic environments where people openly come up and say they didn't give consent, they were drunk, this that and everything... Am I defending them? Nope...never..It's a rape.
But you can't freaking compare it to what Indian women going through . No one will look at you or try to rape you walk in a bikini in USA, but indian women get raped in public transport, rural villages as a punishment, daily while traveling? W*F

Then they were bullied from society, because they got raped. Poor girl can never start her life again. in rural villages, people try to fix her marriage with the rapist..WHAT THE HELL..how any one can tolerate this shit.. This shitt is happening not only in india, sadly in few other countries, where women never have freedom like men to breathe.


Yes, and U and ur US of A go and kill 100000000s of ppl n another countries and first create Taliban and then Al-qaeda and nw ISIS.

25% of whole worlds' prison populatin is in USA, whereas USA dont even make up of 5% of world's population.

DO NOT MAKE IT MY COUNTRY IS BETTER THAN YOURS DEBATE. IF U R HUMAN, SEE IT AS OUR PROBLEM.

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