Freida Pinto Slams India for Banning Nirbhaya Documentary - Page 8

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Chalo, in a way its good to be in democracy, we can debate serious issues. I wonder how the Chinese or Russians debate in their countries. May be not our problems. but u know, world is a global family now.
I m waiting for celebs to join the bandwagon. Same old..
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Fiery.Fawkes

If parents are not on board, documentary shouldn't be released.

As for the debate I sorta agree with both sides. But then again if a section of people were really mature, we wouldn't be seeing stupid statements thrown in our faces. So really not sure if such a section is ready for this documentary to pick out the wrong mentality. More than a documentary, which might not even reach every household, other alternatives should be considered to eradicate the mentality. This mentality persists everywhere from urban to rural households and from educated to illiterate people. So more than a documentary, I would love to see a project specifically designed to reach every ear. And If this documentary is in English and directed from an outsider's POV, then mehhh, I don't see how it has the capacity to tattle the entire nation.

Btw, it's just funny to see Freida as the face of the documentary, someone who doesn't even give two hoots about India. Wish someone more credible was on board.



@bold: THIS.

It is going to take another 20-30 years to change the mentality. Like you said it is everywhere from educated to illiterate people. Even though kids are taught in school to behave properly and even if the mother teachers the kid to behave, if they catch the father disrespecting the mother, then slowly they start to pick up on it, especially when they are teenagers. There are very few teenagers that don't follow the father's behavior. Kids follow actions more than words. They need to be taught by example.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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They ban the documentary because it could "incite violence against women" but the likes of Thackeray, Qureshi who actually DO incite violence against certain sections of the population and have done so in the past? Nah, let's look the other f**king way.

Don't care much for the people saying this glorifies the rapists. Um, you haven't seen it so you do not know if it does or doesn't. Plus, documentaries report events, not glorify them. Sure, it makes people uncomfortable to hear the rapist spew his victim-blaming bullshit but you know what? If anything, this tells you of how prevalent rape culture is in India (Especially when EDUCATED defense attorneys regurgitate the same misogynistic comments) and how serious of a problem it is if we can't even carry out a proper conversation on it.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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So the politicians in India think that a documentary about 'rape' defames the country more than the actual 'rape' and the attitude of some men towards women? Yeah right.
The documentary is playing tonight at 10 in BBC 4. I'm definitely watching it. I hope for once this documentary is available online. If it manages to show the mirror to even one family, one boy, then its successful I'd say.

Those who are offended by the documentary, please exercise your choice and don't watch the video. Just don't decide for others.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: touch_of_pink



[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cShXikihcEw[/YOUTUBE]


WOW...This woman made so much sense...TFS.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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We have seen so many documentaries on fraudsters, murderers, communal riots, serial killers, war crimes, jihadists etc , does this mean that we are glorifying them ????

If as a result of this documentary, we get a section of scared people and a section of people whose blood boils and who want to do something about it instead of just people who don't bother , then i would say its not a bad deal.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: atominis


A documentary cannot create but it can surely fuel such feelings further.

People are aware of what happens. But this is a culture that would rather lock up girls or avoid them than tackle men.

I have often discussed this with elders and most feel males are males and they are uncontrollable. Even parents fear their grown sons or encourage them. Most people then shift the onus to girls instead.

There are proverbs like toofan ki niyat theek nahin, kashti ko khud sambhalna hoga. Compare men to storm that is inevitable and women to hapless boat! The reactions even online proved how even highlights from documentary were reinforcing fear than start a serious debate on attitudes.

We have immense coverage on these issues but everytime there is same standard response - good girls don't get raped, 90% cases are fake, jeans, films or junk food are responsible etc. It's not achieved much except voyeurism and outrage.



With or without the documentary, such regressive mentalities exist regardless, and will continue to exist, and they are not gonna go away if we just avoid talking about it, on the contrary it will make it even worse, they've already won over you because you fear them, that's the control they have, and they will carry on doing it because they know you're too afraid to do anything about it. For far too long victims have been forced to remained silent out of fear of shame, enough is enough.

Documentary may not change people's mindsets, but what we need is good people to feel disgust, ashamed and anger over what's happening to the women of their country, and anger and rage that such people exist amongst them who feel no remorse at what they've done.

There is also a saying, "The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it..
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Antlers


Accepting the truth is hard for Indians to swallow. They can easily compare US with India all of the times. We have a obsession with being the best and number 1, yet never when it comes to justice, or becoming a civil society.



Talk about yourself mate.
I walk truth, I talk truth and I even swallow truth and nothing but the truth 😉😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: blue-ice


WOW...This woman made so much sense...TFS.


Can I just say thank you for watching the video!


We are all entitled to our opinion on whether the documentary should be aired or not. But can we first just listen to what the filmmaker has to say and then form our opinion? Otherwise we end up jumping to conclusions without knowing both sides of the story. And by both sides I mean the filmmaker and the MPs who are calling to ban the documentary.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Ahhh looks like parents are OK with the documentary. In that case, ban doesn't really make any sense.

And it sucks that they are still waiting for justice even after 2 yrs :(


I watched Jaya being vocal about the same in the Parliament discussion and some idiot wasn't even letting her finish. f**king leaders

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