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Posted: 12 years ago
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No she is not finished. Has The role of Alia's mom been cast yet in two states? If not that can be Ash's comeback vehicle


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Posted: 12 years ago
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I don't get why people always discuss box office, yes she didn't had a great run of that. That is because of the movies she choose. And figthts she had with everyone in Bollywood. She lost 6 hits movies. How is everyone forgetting that.
She enter Bollywood when she 25 or 26 years in 1999. I think pretty late for leading lady. And got her first filmfare award only after year in acting for Hum dil chuke se Sanam and got appreciated for Taal.And she did really less movies in her career.
You cannot deny she was popular and had star quality, if she did more masala movies like Dhoom 2 and do more item songs where she just for glamour and dancing yeah she would have more hits. I think Dhoom 2 and Endhiran are her only masala movies. She couldn't work with the Khans after 2002, her career was almost lost back then. There weren't many other hit actors to work with back then. Pretty sure she was banned of out the industry after the Salman debacle. Who knows what happen. Luckily for her she still could work in some international movies and some art house movies and still got her endorsements.
Dhoom 2 did bring her back on top in Bollywood and she left the international movies. But still not the big banners or the Khans.
And which great hit banners did she work in her career , almost non...I still wonder why she only worked in one Yashraj movie that is really less for leading lady Mohabbin don't count, was special appearence. Did she ever work with Yohars, or Roshans as banner... These are the banners that give hits.

Despite all this she did have great career and work with great directors. Mine personal opinion she could have done so much more in her career if she was more smart. I mean smart not to fight with the Khans.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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She might be fake, however no one ca deny that has represented India in a well way. Proud of her!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ashna26

I don't get why people always discuss box office, yes she didn't had a great run of that. That is because of the movies she choose. And figthts she had with everyone in Bollywood. She lost 6 hits movies. How is everyone forgetting that.

She enter Bollywood when she 25 or 26 years in 1999. I think pretty late for leading lady. And got her first filmfare award only after year in acting for Hum dil chuke se Sanam and got appreciated for Taal.And she did really less movies in her career.
You cannot deny she was popular and had star quality, if she did more masala movies like Dhoom 2 and do more item songs where she just for glamour and dancing yeah she would have more hits. I think Dhoom 2 and Endhiran are her only masala movies. She couldn't work with the Khans after 2002, her career was almost lost back then. There weren't many other hit actors to work with back then. Pretty sure she was banned of out the industry after the Salman debacle. Who knows what happen. Luckily for her she still could work in some international movies and still got her endorsements.
Dhoom 2 did bring her back on top in Bollywood and she left the international movies. But still not the big banners or the Khans.
And which great hit banners did she work in her career , almost non...I still wonder why she only worked in one Yashraj movie that is really less for leading lady Mohabbin don't count, was special appearence. Did she ever work with Yohars, or Roshans as banner... These are the banners that give hits.

Despite all this she did have great career and work with great directors. Mine personal opinion she could have done so much more in her career if she was more smart. I mean smart not to fight with the Khans.

Exactly. I completely agree.
Besides, just 5 years ago, it was hard for women-centric films to become hits. Aishwarya has always been off-beat in terms of her choices in films. There are a lot of films that she carried on her shoulders. Chokar Bali, Raincoat, HDDCs, Taaal, That movie with Anil where she plays a rape victim...Umrao Jaan, BP, etc. The list goes on and on, yes these movies may have been flops but she was critically acclaimed and applauded for taking a differen route.
Infact I remember with Raincoat, she almost got the national award and in the last minute it was changed.
Im glad she did that its better than to do 7 movies with SRK, be popular for 2 years and then do nothing. Ash has longivity!
Why do you think Ash was the 2nd Indian and first woman to be in Madame Tussauds?
Why do you think Ash was on the list of most influential people in the world in the renowed Time Magazine?
These are not PR exercises, they are living proof of her stardom and success. I am not even a fan of hers but I will give credit where it is due.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I kinda wished she did do the movies with SRK instead of Rani or Preity. I really liked Aishwarya and SRK jodi. I was a big fan of Salman and Aishwarya too.Aishwarya never even got to work with Aamir in a movie as leady lady. I feel she had a great career but in between so much drama also. But see your point what would Aishwarya gained in these movies. At least she should have done Veer Zaara, still sad she didn't. As for PR lol every star has a PR keeping them in news not only Aishwarya.
Just for sharing Aishwarya did have a hit with her husband how can you forget Guru very critically acclaimed movie.
Edited by ashna26 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@shaitan hauwan

Ash was there in those global lists due to her achievements as a beauty and model. Plus hype. You think she had some great achievements in cinema that she was placed in such lists over greats like Amitabh and SRK who had far more actual influence than her?

What critical acclaim? Rani, Preity, Karishma, Raveena,PC, Kareena, Urmila have had critically acclaimed films too. If Ash came close to winning a National Award, so did Rani for Black (which is remembered by everyone till date).

Why shouldn't box office be discussed when the topic is about movies or reign? What reign she had in movies? How does comeback matter of a person whose movies rarely attracted audience any way?

The handful of films which she carried on her shoulders, same and more number of films are there for other actresses who had less than half hype as her.

And what double standards are these? Rani, Preity films are Khan films. While presence of Salman Khan is ignored in HDDCS and it's said to ride on her shoulders? Salman had golden run in 1999 and the supporting actor Ajay was also fresh from successes like Pyar Toh Hona Hi Tha in previous year, plus added credibility with National Award for best actor.

Okay she fought with 3 Khans. Why didn't she give hits with Vivek, Saif, Bobby the way Rani and Preity managed to?

@ashna26

Aishwarya did not make debut in 1999. Her debut was Aur Pyar Ho Gaya in 1997. PR - everyone does it but no one does it as much as Aishwarya did. Roger Ebert had called Deepika Padukone ravishing. But media didn't go berserk making headlines out of it. Whereas his 3 lines for Aishwarya's beauty were splashed across whole media in print, TV and online. Hollywood stars have praised Aamir, SRK, Hrithik, Om Puri also. Yet those stars don't milk it to the hilt. While Aishwarya ensured all those praises were reported everywhere to make it look how huge she was internationally. 4 years ago, Richard Branson had called PC a goddess. PC hasn't gone milking it or used that to prove what a globally appealing beauty/star she is.

Those rejecting marriage proposals from richest tycoons was the limit as well. Funny why she'd reject those much bigger, richer, better educated, achiever men and ultimately choose only Abhishek (if all her PR stuff is true).

There was always aura around her due to her looks. She's used her PR to foster that aura further.

Odd how Johar and others didn't offer her films...or wait! Maybe she rejected them as she was busy in Hollywood. 😃

As this media hyped beauty queen and iconic Bachchan bahu she's always there. She doesn't need a comeback. For several Indians, she's been the L'Oreal woman only for years now.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Skepblun 😆so her PR made her famous!! I just don't agree with you. I feel her PR sucks have said that before. If she had amazing PR like you said they would told not to figth with the Khans and changed her attitude be more open about a lot of things. As for international things I don't see it like that. From I recall Aishwarya was bashed a lot in media even in the industry, because she went abroad. When the industry themself banned her at least a large group. Her PR only did damage control even in that they failed I feel. Aishwarya only did some international movies because she had no work in Bollywood she lost 6 movies and was banned. Watch the Simi interview you will see it. Simi adressed this to Aishwarya.
Aishwarya did only 1 movie with Vivek and that too with not a big banner. Like I said before to have hits you needed to have big banners back then. ohh yeah forget Aishwarya never even worked with Saif too.
Aishwarya worked with so many less actors in her career and so many less big banners, but I guess it is her own fault I feel. She should have been smarter or have better PR. And her PR still sucks.
Like I said before she still did excellent despite all the mis fortune she faced in her career.
Yeah true it was 1997. Aur Pyar ke was not debut it was Mani ratman movie Iruver in 1997.
Edited by ashna26 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Skepblun

@shaitan hauwan

Ash was there in those global lists due to her achievements as a beauty and model. Plus hype. You think she had some great achievements in cinema that she was placed in such lists over greats like Amitabh and SRK who had far more actual influence than her?

What critical acclaim? Rani, Preity, Karishma, Raveena,PC, Kareena, Urmila have had critically acclaimed films too. If Ash came close to winning a National Award, so did Rani for Black (which is remembered by everyone till date).

Why shouldn't box office be discussed when the topic is about movies or reign? What reign she had in movies? How does comeback matter of a person whose movies rarely attracted audience any way?

The handful of films which she carried on her shoulders, same and more number of films are there for other actresses who had less than half hype as her.

And what double standards are these? Rani, Preity films are Khan films. While presence of Salman Khan is ignored in HDDCS and it's said to ride on her shoulders? Salman had golden run in 1999 and the supporting actor Ajay was also fresh from successes like Pyar Toh Hona Hi Tha in previous year, plus added credibility with National Award for best actor.

Okay she fought with 3 Khans. Why didn't she give hits with Vivek, Saif, Bobby the way Rani and Preity managed to?

@ashna26

Aishwarya did not make debut in 1999. Her debut was Aur Pyar Ho Gaya in 1997. PR - everyone does it but no one does it as much as Aishwarya did. Roger Ebert had called Deepika Padukone ravishing. But media didn't go berserk making headlines out of it. Whereas his 3 lines for Aishwarya's beauty were splashed across whole media in print, TV and online. Hollywood stars have praised Aamir, SRK, Hrithik, Om Puri also. Yet those stars don't milk it to the hilt. While Aishwarya ensured all those praises were reported everywhere to make it look how huge she was internationally. 4 years ago, Richard Branson had called PC a goddess. PC hasn't gone milking it or used that to prove what a globally appealing beauty/star she is.

Those rejecting marriage proposals from richest tycoons was the limit as well. Funny why she'd reject those much bigger, richer, better educated, achiever men and ultimately choose only Abhishek (if all her PR stuff is true).

There was always aura around her due to her looks. She's used her PR to foster that aura further.

Odd how Johar and others didn't offer her films...or wait! Maybe she rejected them as she was busy in Hollywood. 😃

As this media hyped beauty queen and iconic Bachchan bahu she's always there. She doesn't need a comeback. For several Indians, she's been the L'Oreal woman only for years now.




I always said in terms of no. 1 2 3 4 5

Ash's bollywood career would be not that good compared to lots of other heroines. But she did have the overseas impact .

Also Salman was praised by Richard Gere for his charity just little knowledge for you guys
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Its always a discussion on Ash's hits and flops but the fact is hits and flops ratio never made any difference to her career or fame.

Its shocking to me how ill some people are informed about her career.

This is a part from the interview in 2000 (counts total 6 hits from 1999 to 2000) I saw someone mentioned here that Ash only had 3 hits in whole career, ha funny. She had 6 hits from 1999 to 2000 ALONE!

After so many hits, Mohabaatein, HDDCS, Taal, Josh, HDAPH and KK, people will expect lot from you, how do you plan to keep up the good work?
I take everyday as it comes, I don't plan out anything. Performance and growth, with experience, are what I've always been trying to focus on. Audiences react to artistes because they see us in films that are released one after the other. In fact, our movies are made almost simultaneously. We grow during the making of a film, from day to day. What one sees as an overall good performance is a cumulative effort of all the talents that come together in the making of a film.
http://www.seasonsindia.com/cinemascope/iviewAishwarya_sea.htm

Jeans HIT, HDDCS HIT, Taal HIT, Mohabaatein HIT, Josh HIT, Hamara dil aapke paas hain HIT, Kaundukondain HIT, Devdas HIT, Chokher Bali HIT, Khakee HIT, Raincoat HIT, Bride & P HIT, Provoked HIT, Umrao Jaan (HIT overseas), Dhoom 2 HIT, Guru HIT.

After marriage Jodhaa Akbar HIT, Pink Panther2 HIT, Sarkar Raj HIT, Raavanan (HIT Tamil), Endhiran Robot HIT.

Total 21 HITS (Total movies she have done are 35) Total 14 flops in whole career, other actresses have more flops then hers.

Proof of her off beat movies being a success where she was the hero.

http://www.aishwarya-spice.com/interviews/2003-2/2003-chokher-bali-is-a-hit/

http://www.aishwarya-spice.com/interviews/2004-2/2004-raincoat-has-emerged-a-winner-at-the-box-office/

http://www.aishwarya-spice.com/interviews/2007-2/2007-provoked-steals-bigger-opening-than-namesake/

I would say Aishwarya had a fantastic career thus far, she has grown as an actress and played some memorable roles, yes she have flops but that does all the actors so why pin point just her? its funny how people call her hits movies as flops when the fact is she did had more hits then 3! :P


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Oh no she is part of Bachchan parivaar so she will never fade away. Be prepare to be irritated for long. I do hope her giggling has subsided though.

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