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Posted: 13 years ago
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Statistically, you win some and lose some. Every coin toss (argument) is a 50-50. But, whoever has the highest table stakes stands to lose the most.

Say the stakes are $500.00 vs. $5.00. A loss means that $500.00 loses 10,000% more than the $5.00 stakes. Yes, a win will also be 10,000% greater, but psychologically we are wired to be more upset by losses that joyous in wins.

Skeptics really don't care much. Their skepticism is a matter of fact, not something they are vested in. Their table stakes are $0.00 going higher the more involved they get. Fans on the other hand care too much. Their favorite celebrities matter tremendously, so they are completely vested in it, often putting up exponential stakes mentally. That is why, even though the win-loss ratio is 50-50 in long run averages, the magnitude of loss for fans always feels higher. Skeptics are not getting better treatment, they are just betting a lot lower. You can't blame the slot machine for giving lesser magnitude of losses to the low better. When you bet too high, you assume the risks that the slot machine can totally screw you over. Although if skeptics get too involved, get too agitated, and vest themselves too much in winning over the fans, then the tables can get turned and the skeptics will suffer higher magnitude of losses.

So who gets treated better is not whether you are a fan or a skeptic, it totally depends on your table stakes. The lower you bet, the lesser the slot machine can take from you and the nicer it starts appearing. Of course you can bet like a high roller as it is more fun and thrilling, but when you do you have to assume the risks of high magnitude losses.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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@equine – Why were you so confused by my posts? They are just well known jests about the interwebs in general. 😆

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Posted: 13 years ago
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It's the lack of objectivity that makes a world of difference between the two. Very few fans on this forum, if any at all, are truly able to see their idol in any way other than through rose tinted glasses. Find me a Salman Khan fan who says yes he is an abusive, callous human being who killed innocent bystanders but I only enjoy his acting...or an SRK fan who says I love his Rahul act but the never ending arrogant off-screen drama is stupid...you will be hard pressed to find people like this. It's not like skeptics are not "fans" of somebody...it's their reaction to news and situations that makes it a far more entertaining discussion for the likes of me. Conversations with the fans just end up as arguments and are just not worth my energy anymore.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: BheegiBasanti

It's the lack of objectivity between the two that makes a world of difference. Very few fans on this forum, if any at all, are truly able to see their idol in any way other than through rose tinted glasses. Find me a Salman Khan fan who says yes he is an abusive, callous human being who killed innocent bystanders but I only enjoy his acting...or an SRK fan who says I love his Rahul act but the never ending arrogant off-screen drama is stupid...you will be hard pressed to find people like this. It's not like skeptics are not "fans" of somebody...it's their reaction to news and situations that makes it a far more entertaining discussion for the likes of me. Those with the fans are just not worth my energy anymore.


It is like no one sees me as a fan. 😭😆

I actually do like Salman Khan and think he is a misunderstood person, but I can't be knackered to defend him or change anyone's opinion about him.

Same with SRK, I know he is arrogant and pompous, but I actually kind of enjoy his off screen histrionics as well. They are more amusing than malicious.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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ok folks time for a very silly Question
can someone enlighten me who are fans who are cynics and who are skeptics

and last but not the least where do i fall in 😆

on a serious note .Fans can love worship their idol .it should not matter to them what cynics bashers say or try to bring their idols down .y do even bother .fans will love their idols and cynics will diss them as always but members should not get personal neither fans nor cynics should be so blinded in their love or hatred that they hurt insult fellow members or bring their personal life which no one is hell interested and for what this good for nothing useless low life greedy bollywood stars .hell no
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I think I'm probably a skeptic.
A skeptic who's in love dammit all, and yeah, I love him so much sometimes I feel sick from it.
Stupid old skeptic I am. 😆
Edited by youknowme - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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First of all, let me clarify once again I have nothing against skeptics or cynics. Some of my favorite members on IF have been in the category.

*throws spotlight on Dex & Zainab, cue applause*
That said, I dont understand why fans are criticized for their praise if cynics arent criticized for their criticism?
Let me give another example. I've lost track of how many times I've heard people say, "the incessant defending of all things Saif & Kareena is exasperating"
What did I do to incite this response? I posted a few pictures to bolster a claim I made. Now in that post, there was no disrespect towards anyone. Nor did I direct the post towards anyone or quote any other member's post.
Why is the defense exasperating?
Is it because the logic I use leaves no room for debate? Or do people want to criticise so badly that I ruin the party?
Because I can also say,
"The incessant bashing of all celebrities 24/7 is exasperating"
My main gist:
If you are tired of the defending, IGNORE IT. It is not hurting you in any way or form is it? MOST Skeptics, as I glean, are not emotionally invested in the bashing, so why do they care if fans defend? Like I understand fans getting upset if their favorite is getting bashed. Yes the emotional investment makes us vulnerable. But why are skeptics getting upset if we defend?
If you DISAGREE with the defense, well then, DEBATE it. You are free to do any of the above, but why get all whiny and complain about it? It makes us feel shitty and retarded. Is that the intention?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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cumon, desu. i dont know y u still didnt get it. when one worships a star , there r some who enjoy riling up those fans by criticizing th star. while some genuinly criticize th celebs. y r thy not criticizd for criticizn th stars, u ask? well, RTH answrd it better in his post. since fans have emotionally more at stake.
i dont think skeptics get any better treatmnt here.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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^ Many people come to forums to vent frustration.

I know this is a pretty airy generalisation, but I do stick by it. I come to IF when I want good convo, but sometimes when life = dustballs flying around a barren land, I just wanna come to IF and be a bit more dynamic than I am in real life.

When people come here to discuss, and are only presented with fan club-like threads, it does, to be very very very honest, get a little irritating.

I am not talking about you DG, because you do acknowledge other opinions, and are ready to say "fair enough". YOU do debate... but that does not go for every other fan.

There ARE fans in this forum that think that just because someone else has got a negative opinion about their 4everFAVE, they judge you, bash you for other shitty reasons, call you a "hater", assume that all you see in life is darkness.

This is precisely why it pisses me off when I used to be called a Vidya Balan fan. Whenever people mention fans, all I have in my mind is an image of the obsessive, tireless, limitless people who go to ridiculous, RIDICCCULOUS depths to defend someone who doesn't even know they exist. I would never want to be called a fan, thanks to the reputation that some have left to that title.

Strong opinions, but they exist >.<
Edited by liverach - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Fair enough Liverach, I understand that can get annoying.
But I'm talking about my experience and from what some of you say, it doesnt seem like I'm AS blind as a few others, but evne I get that kinda treatment so that's all 😆

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