My take on Sid and Asim.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Wanted to put my thoughts on it.

So I really loved their bond at the start and it wont be wrong to say if Sid had any true heart to heart connection after Sana it would be Asim. I remember Asim was being bullied right from the premier and I dont really blame anyone for that, he does have a different accent and he looked very over confident for a newbie like him, which is why even Salman could not stand him and may be right so. I didn't like him either looking at the premier. On the other hand Sid did come out as a mature famous celebrity and looked good with all his aura and charm and no wonder got all the limelight with most of the women picking on him that day as partner. So the show started with Sid being my favorite from day 1 and I did respect him , and undoubtedly he has an aura and smile which can be worth drooling for.

Coming to the house, after the initial evictions and some of good supporters of Sid leaving there was a need for connections. Paras had already sided with Rashmi and Devo , and so did Mahira. Asim was always a no-one and the only way he chose to garner attention was small fights which mostly revolved around is accent and body. He was clearly being picked up by everyone and Sid choose to side with him which was really nice of him to do. As Sid has always said so I guess him choosing SId was mostly due to him being able to relate with a newbie in town like him and of course the angry young man image that Asim put in the fights, he saw a bit of himself and did stand by him most of the times. So yes there was a good bond between them and soon Sana joined in too(I wont say much about Aarti for obvious reasons). They shared a quite reciprocal relationship between them, just the difference being Sid took him in more like a childish young man , and Asim took him as a mentor bcoz of all what he has done in the past and experience but more importantly also as a Friend and not like a Sir kind of respect and being a yes yes puppet all the time. However as it takes a few days to build up things in any bond, Asim did remain passive and heard what he said coz off-course Shukla comes with lots of experience with him and Asim thought that he is this way, and we do accept friends with all the flaws so both of them did. Shukla accepted him for all his childish stupid fights and only stood by him in fights sometimes supporting and other times just symbolically standing besides him, so did Asim for his loud speech and less respect when it came to Sid listening to Asim. However here Sana enters and Asim sees him totally respecting and understanding and trusting her, when the whole house could see she cant be trusted. Whenever Asim did bring her into convo Sid just gave a nod mostly, it was clearly visible he did have a bigger soft corner for Sana and treated her at par with him in friendship which was not the case for Asim. Sana did play her role in increasing the insecurities between the two brothers.

I will have to put it whenever you see their conversations in the initial days, Asim did take his points seriously always and tried to understand. On the other side Sid spoke to him always and was clearly with him but whenever it comes to taking a few inputs from him, he only listened and never really trusted or understood him well. I dont know why he has had a bit of trust deficit and lack of respect for Asim, and I guess it comes from Sid thinking he has taken Asim in his protection , though he never put it in words and also he has never seen Asim as a sane person and just sees him as a child who has no sense. Each of this is clearly visible in almost all the tasks , he just said han han and then said tu nai samjhega mera sun and stuff and it continues till the tunnel task and so the outburst. The continuous appreciation only made him believe he is the best when it comes to tasks which I agree he is this season , but again its a group task so even if u have the best strategy u have to hear from all and then put your points, which was lacking on part of Sid. Sid thought he could handle Asim the same way he did with Aarti who despite of all the insults from Sid came back to him bringing news from all ends. Asim did the same and I have hated him in all the bitching sessions with Sid, when Sid just heard most of the times. He did have things in mind which most of the times he put before Asim in indirect words- remember THE TAPE RECORDER mode of shukla- beacuse he dosent want to look like he is bitching or keeping things in head, but all along he did. Asim tried saying things out only to be shushed or shooed away by Sids anger which caused this huge built up.

Remember how Aarti was thrown like a thrash when Sid saw her mingling with his "enemies", failing to understand that she did that because like Asim she felt unheard and shut up by her team head. By the time WKW praises only strengthened Sids belief that he is doing really well , even when he should have been told strictly to be cautious in his and Mahiras fight( I dont support anyone there totally too). The same started happening with Asim too , which kind of showed evidently in tunnel task. The problem here Asim was no Aarti and stood for what he felt was right, rather than being a puppet to Shukla. Are chalo I agree Asim was at fault too and Arhan did good that day, but he had the right to be atleast heard well that day and crosscheck what was being done wrong by his team. But as again Shukla is the task master so he felt he can never be wrong. He didnt understand him again there, chancewas taken by Arhan to add fuel to the fire there again. Even after that Sid only heard him coz he was annoyed and by the time he also realized that Asim has things in head and he is no Arti and cant be just shut up. WKW where Salman praised him made him take hint of that clearly. Remember Asim was behind in that wkw episode and did come to him like a friend always smiling and without big grudges, but again he shooed him away disrespectfully and was not interested in his conversations. But as soon as salman praised he was back to hugs because he realized he must be looking wrong there. All this while I agree Asim did have so many things buried which had to be out and they came out in the form of apples and oranges, making it look only Asim had things in mind and he burst but many fail to see same was with Shukla, and him being one who shows an image of "I dont care" always said things in TAPE RECORDER MODE, never directly coz that would burst the bubble that he does care about all what others say, be it Rashmi or other people around.

Salmans praise which I guess channel wanted to send as an hint to Sid, was taken but as I said , the bond was gone - and especially only from shuklas side as he understood he cannot tame Asim anymore. He could not come into terms that a young lad like Asim can be so understanding and dimagdar for him to be taken seriously. He has only seen him as a person who is benefiting from his fandom and riling against him coz he was praised, failing to realize Asim too has saved him on many occasions with his physical fights and kind of covered up all the things that could have gone against him- be it with women or his coming to close to people, like he did in the roti fights with rashmi. He did go to many Housemates behind Sids back and never told him I did this for you- like requesting to make rotis and offering help rather that only putting orders.Each and every member of the house had given up before sid- first bcoz of his aggression and second WKW biasness. Debo did put the right arms a bit late, but soon Asim Sid took over.

However the sad part is Asim in the fight to prove Sid wrong took over many of his things to show Sid the mirror,is where I think he went wrong. He has always felt fight is the easiest way to get cameras attention(remember his conversation with Sid about vishal? Wo ungli nai karega to mei karunga). He tried telling Sid that he comes so close to face(same in swayamvar task where he was nudging) which Sid didnt understand, so to make him know what he does he did it the next day(Sid saying ekdum muh k pass aa jata hai, man kar raha tha lafa bajau, itna nai kar sakte). Asim did go very overboard with all of this as he saw Shukla retaliating every time and he knew he would push.All the bad words that he used were totally wrong and not to be done on National TV,looked like Salmans praise did go over his head, but I agree you need guts to stand before a man like shukla when everyone in the house gave up before him. You could clearly see Shukla wasent expecting this from him and was quite for a moment.

However the so called mature man of the house must have realized that his weakness is being used, and should have avoided Asim, I do agree he did try but Asim ran behind him everytime and Shukla instead of ignoring him (targetting him :p) gave him what he wanted and also highlighted his hypocrisy on many levels like

1. Him saying that day too - agar hum jani dushman bhi ban jaye to bhi ye baat un tak nahi jani chaiye, I am trusting you and stuff. ( As I have said many assume Shukla is being real, but he also has things in his mind against people, but he does not say them or even if he does he puts them indirectly with his TAPE RECORDER MODE on, to maintain an image of I dont care). After the fight he was hell scared that Asim might open some of his cards(which Asim didnt, and if he did tell a few things he only did with his own team-Himanshi and Shefali). Sid got so desperate that he started telling Paras about what Asim said, when he clearly didnt need to as he is anyways strong and people would come back to him or new people would beg(Paras and Mahira) to get into his team without Sid showing his loyalty towards them . But Sid with that fear of being sidelined went and started Asim ne iske pare me aisa bola, waisa bola(Park area when Asim as sitting too), when Asim in retaliation said a few things about paras that shukla said too which went unheard as Shukla wanted.

2. Him not liking his friends talking to others and he just brushed off Aarti even without telling her reasons properly. I agree Asim shouldn't have been so insecure of Debo and Sid as he was only playing along, but again there was misunderstanding between both ( Sid thought: Asim is insecure of Sid grabing all the limelight( He was but only because he was doing it with Debo or Sana(biggest Flip), and Asim: He can do that but when I do he dosent like it). This could be solved with Sid pyar se making Asim understand that it is a game and he doesn't like Debo and explaining to him he is still with him , but all he did in his anger was bol dia? Ho gaya? Karunga etc and not understanding again, only confirming Asims insecurity.

3. Taking his friends for granted and not trusting them, and when his friends did the same showing it as a sin. I am not a fan of all the shuklis , they have been always under Shuklas pressure(thanks wkw) and agreed to what he said but one thing I would point out is that they have been loyal to them(not implying they dont bitch about him among themselves or to others, but always saved him from being in bad light). They have always tried giving him constructive criticism(Shefali, Asim) but as I said he has always thought they are with him anyways so never tried to explain or hear them truly. Be it Shefali or Himanshi or Asim.( I am as confused about Arti as much as she is).They always tried to prevent him(anger, bully, rashmi pin points etc). It is clear how they could use those things against him as now when shukla is with Mahira and Paras are doing. ( Mahira and Paras clearly using him as a pawn, using his anger, laughing at him, using his weakness for sana in their favour, using vishal and going to the extent of lying about shuklas friends to him). Shuklis never made fun of or said we will use it against him or gret rid of him, which is being done by Paras now. Unfortunately Shukla thinks he is not in their influence but he is totally(evident in Captaincy task). Perfect example of how your strengths can be used as weaknesses in the wrong company.

4. Listening and understanding. Never done that with Arti, nor Asim. Started doing that with Shefali after the leader tag.He rarely did it with his friends- be it about sana( clearly with shukla bcoz she knows she was bashed at WKW after she left him, she has a soft corner for paras, also evident from what she told to Khesari-shukla strong hai unke mudde me khade ho and stuff. Paras didnt give her any bhav over mahira, which was done by shukla over his friends- the only reason she is with him. She cant take SKs bashing at all, and she gets highly demotivated by it which happened after she went to paras ). But,Doing that(listening) clearly with the Palti group seen in captaincy task. His friends still showed the sanity to choose him when he was bitching about them to other people( Shuklis mostly do it among themselves or atleast dont show the other group what he told and stuff) for captaincy, he said with akad mei nai banunga, and thought abhi ye log"chatenge" aur bolenge ban ja, but surprisingly they chose other two contenders and said theek hai (he thinks they were with him coz he is strong, right but having done that they gave equally too to Sid be it loyality or stopping him where needed.Paras rightly said it, hum uske paas nai gaye, wo humare pass aaya) nai bano, but was shocked when they didnt and went and told his mahanta to his Shuklis in making(paras gang) ki mei nahi ban raha. But they said kyu nahi banega, ban ja(to favour themselves and not Sid like Shukli 1 wanted), and the over akalmand insaan like a puppet went there.

At the end I dont like shukla anymore, does not mean I side with Asim..he has been equally wrong in using weakness about his friend against him and not needed to pull it so long. But he still seems sane sometimes and accepts his flaws( Ladko me hota hai, not making issue about shukla choking him much, not jataoing ehsaan(he did only when shukla was), standing for right( Rashmi part for rashmi and also for sid(wo bura dikhega), not siding with shefali when he spoke about lips, telling himanshi she is wrong about make up part,asking shefali mei kaha galat tha, going to sid to sort things, not pushing back sana each time she pushed(had it been mahira and shukla i dont need to say what would have happened)..and so many......


There is so much more, but ist would be too long

All I can say is I hope shukla mends his ways and so does Asim, and even if they play in different groups they play it like a game and the deserving one wins

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: CuriousBeing

Wanted to put my thoughts on it.

So I really loved their bond at the start and it wont be wrong to say if Sid had any true heart to heart connection after Sana it would be Asim. I remember Asim was being bullied right from the premier and I dont really blame anyone for that, he does have a different accent and he look like very over confident for a newbie like him, which is why even Salman could not stand him and right so. I didnt like him either looking at the premier. On the other hand Sid did come out as a mature famous celebrity and looked good with all his aura and charm and no wonder got all the limelight with most of the women picking on him that day for partner. So the show started with Sid being my favorite from day 1 and I did respect him , and undoubtedly he has an aura and smile which can is worth drooling.

Coming to the house, after the initial evictions and some of good supporters of Sid leaving there was a need for connections. Paras had already sided with Rashmi and Devo , and so did Mahira. Asim was always a no-one and the only way he chose to garner attention was small fights which mostly revolved around is accent and body. He was clearly being picked up by everyone and Sid choose to side with him which was nice of him. As Sid has always said it was I guess mostly due to him being able to relate with a newbie in town like him and of course the angry young man image that sim put in the fights, may be he saw a bit of him and did stand by him most of the times. So yes there was a good bond between them and soon Sana joined in too(I wont say much about Aarti for obvious reasons). They shared a quite reciprocal relationship between them just the difference Sid took him in more like a childish young man , and Asim did take him as a mentor too coz of all what he has done in the past and experience but also as a Friend and not like you know that Sir kind of respect and being a yes yes puppet all the time. However as it takes a few days to build up things Asim did remain passive and heard what he said coz off-course Shukla comes with lots of experience with him and Asim thought that he is this way, and we do accept friends with all the flaws so both of them did. Shukla accepted him for all his childish stupid fights and only stood by him in fights sometimes supporting and other times just symbolically standing besides him, so did Asim for his loud speech and less respect when it came to Sid listening to Asim. However here Sana enters and Asim seems him totally respecting and understanding and trusting her, when the whole house could see she cant be trusted. Whenever Asim did bring her into convo Sid just gave a nod mostly, it was clearly visible he did have a bigger soft corner for Sana and treated her at par with him in friendship which was not the case for Asim. Sana did play her role in increasing the insecurities between the two brothers.

I will have to put it whenever you see their conversations in the initial days, Asim did take his points seriously always and tried to understand. On the other side Sid did talk to him always and was clearly with him but whenever it comes to taking a few inputs from him, he only listened and never really trusted or understood him well. I dont know why he has a had a bit of trust deficit and lack of respect for Asim, and I guess it comes from Sid thinking he has taken Asim in his protection , though he never put it in words and also he has never seen Asim as a sane person and just sees him as a child which has no sense. Each of this is clearly visible in almost all the tasks , he just said han han and then said tu nai samjhega mera sun and stuff and it continues till the tunnel task and so the outburst. The continuous appreciation only made him believe he is the best when it comes to tasks which I agree he is this season , but again its a group task so even if u have the best strategy u have to hear from all and then put your points, which was lacking on part of Sid. SId thought he could handle Asim the same way he did with Aarti who despite of all the insults from Sid came back to him bringing news from all ends. Asim did the same and I have hated him in all the bitching sessions with Sid, when Sid just heard most of the times. He did have things in mind which most of the times he put before Asim in indirect words- remember THE TAPE RECORDER mode of shukla- beacuse he dosent want to look like he is bitching or keeping things in head, but all along he did. Asim tried saying things out only to be shushed or shooed away by Sids anger which caused this huge built up.

Remember how Aarti was thrown like a thrash when Sid saw her mingling with his "enemies", failing to understand that she did that because like Asim she felt unheard and shut up by her team head. By the time WKW only strengthened Sids belief that he is doing really well , even when he should have been told strictly to be cautious in his and Mahiras fight( I dont support anyone there totally too). The same started happening with Asim too , which kind of showed evidently in tunnel task. The problem was Asim was no Aarti and stood for what he said. Are chalo I agree Asim was at fault too and Arhan did good that day, but he had the right to be atleast heard well that day and crosscheck what was being done wrong by his team. But as again Shukla is the task master rightly so he felt he can never be wrong. He didnt understand him again there, chance taken by Arhan to add fuel to the fire there again. Even after that Sid only heard him coz he was annoyed and by the time realized that Asim has things in head and he is no Arti and cant be just shut up. WKW where Salman praised him made him take hint of that clearly. Remember Asim was behind and did come to him like a friend always smiling and without big grudges, but again he shooed him away disrespectfully and was not interested in his conversations. But as soon as salman praised he was back to hugs s he realized he must be looking blind. All this while I agree Asim did have so many things buried which had to be out and came out in form of apples and oranges, but many fail to say same was with Shukla, and him being one who thinks coz he has an image of being not to care always said things in TAPE RECORDER MODE, never directly coz that would burst the bubble that he does care be it Rashmi or other people around.

Salmans praise which i guess channel wanted to send as an hint to Sid, was taken but as I said , the bond was gone- and only from shuklas sid. He could not come into terms that a young lad like Asim can be so understanding and dimagdar for him to be taken seriously. He has only seen him as a person who is benefiting from his fandom and riling against him coz he was praised, failing to realize Asim too has saved him on many occassions with his physical fights and kind of covered up all the things that could have gone against him- be it with women or his coming to close like he did in the roti fights with rashmi. He did go to many members behind Sids back and never told him I did this for you- like requesting to make rotis and offering help rather that only putting orders.Each and every member of the house had given away to sid- first bcoz of his aggression and second WKW biasness. Debo did put the right arms a bit late, but soon Asim Sid took over.

however the sad part is Asim in the fight to prove Sid wrong took over many of his things to show Sid the mirror is where he went wrong. He has always felt fight is the easiest way to get cameras attention(remember his conversation with Sid about vishal? Wo ungli nai karega to mei karunga). He tried telling Sid that he comes so close to face which Sid didnt understand, so he did it the next day(SId saying ekdum muh k pass aa jata hai, man kar raha tha lafa bajau, itna nai kar sakte). Asim did go very overboard with all of this as he saw Shukla retaliating every time and he knew he would push.All the bad words that he used were totally wrong and not to be done on National TV, Salmans praise did go over his head

However the so called mature man of the house must have realised that his weakness is being used, and should have avoided Asim, he did try but Asim ran behind him everytime and Shukla giving him what he wanted and also highlighting his hypocrisy on many levels like

1. Him saying that day to agar hum jani dushman bhi ban jaye to bhi ye baat un tak nahi jani chaiye, I am trusting you and stuff. ( As I have said many think assume Shukla is being real, but he has things in his mind against people but he does not say or puts them indirectly with is TAPE RECORDER MODE on, to maintain an image of I dont care). After the fight he was hell scared that Asim might open some of his cards(which he didnt, and if he did some only did with his own team-Himanshi and Shefali). Sid got so desperate when he clearly didnt need to as he is anyways strong and people would come back to him or new people would beg(Paras and Mahira) to get into his team without Sid showing his loyalty towards them . But Sid with that fear went and started Asim ne iske pare me aisa bola, waisa bola(Park area when Asimw as sitting too), when Asim did a few things too which went unheard as Shukla wanted.

2. Him not liking his friends talking to others and he just brushed off Aarti even without telling her properly. I agree Asim shouldnt have been so insecure of Debo and Sid as he was only playing along, but again there was misundersatnding between both the ends( SId: Asim is unsecure of Sid grabing limelight( He was but only cause he was doing it with Debo or Sana(biggest Flip), and Asim: He can do that butr when I do he dosent like it). This could be solved with Sid pyar se making Asim understand that it is game and he dosent like her and showing he still is with him, but all he did in his anger was bol dia? Ho gaya? etc and not understanding again.

3. Taking his friends for granted and not trusting them, and when his friends did the same showing it as a sin. I am not a fan of all the shuklis , they have been always under Shuklas pressure(thanks wkw) and agreed to what he said but one thing I would say is they have been loyal to them(not implying they dont bitch about him among themselves or to others, but always saved him from being in bad light). they have always tried giving him constructive criticism but as I said he has always thought they are with him so never tried to explain or hear them truely. Be it Shefali orHimanshi or Asim.( I am as confused about Arti as she is).They always tried to prevent him(anger, bully, rashmi pin points etc). It is clear how they could use those things against him now when shukla is with Mahira and Paras. ( Mahira and Paras clearly using him as pawn, using his anger, laughing at him, using his weakness for sana in their favour, using vishal and going to the extent of lying about shuklas friends to him). Shuklis never made fun of or said we will use it against him or grt rid of him, which is being done by Paras now. Unfortunately Shukla thinks he is not in their influence but he is.

4. Listening and understanding. Rarely did it with his friends- be it about sana( cxlearly with shukla coz she knows she was bashed at WKW, she has a soft corner for paras, also eveident from what she told to Khesari, shukla strong ahai unke mudde me khade ho and stuff. Paras didnt give her any bhav over mahira, which was done by shukla over his friends so she is with hbim, she cant take SKs bashing at all, she gets highly demotivated by it). Doing that clearly with the Palti group-remember captaincy . His friends still showed the sanity to still choose him when he was bitching about them to other people( Shuklis mostly do it among themselves or atleast dont show the other group what h told and stuff) for captaincy, he said with akad mei nai banunga, and thought abhi ye log"chatenge" (he thinks they were with him coz he is strong, rightly so but they gave equally to brother, see yourself with ither people..Paras rightly said it, hum uske baat nai gaye, wo humare pass aaya) ki nai bano, but was shocked when they didnt and went and told his mahanta to his Shuklis in making, but they said nahi ban ja(to favour themselves and not because they wanted shukla to be captain like Shukli 1 wanted), and the over akalmand insaan like a puppet went there.

At the end I dont like shukla anymore, does not mean I side with Asim..he has been equally wrong in using weakness about his friend against him and not needed to pull it so wrong. But he still seems sane sometimes and accepts his flaws( Ladko me hota hai, not making issue about shukla choking him much, not jataoing ehsaan(he did only when shukla was), standing for right( Rashmi part for rashmi and also for sid(wo bura dikhega), not siding with shefali when he spoke about ligs, telling himanshi she is wrong about make up part, not pushing back sana each time she pushed(had it been mahira and shukla i dont need to say what would have happened)..and so many......


There is so much more, but ist would be too long

All I can say is I hope shukla mends his ways and so does Asim, abd even if they play in diffrent groups they play it like a game and the deserving one wins

Wow you took so much time to write all this 👍So many points in there I completely agree with. I also am starting to see (and dislike) the real shukla since past few days after really liking him all season. He is not the man i thought he was.

For so many contestants i have had a change of heart like dislike shukla, sana, vishaal. Still loving Asim. Arti ka samajh nahi aata, neutral on her. Bhau is good. Himanshi and Shefali are good. Paras and Mahira are true villians. Rashmi aur devo pe abhi neutral.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: sunshine333

Wow you took so much time to write all this 👍So many points in there I completely agree with. I also am starting to see (and dislike) the real shukla since past few days after really liking him all season. He is not the man i thought he was.

For so many contestants i have had a change of heart like dislike shukla, sana, vishaal. Still loving Asim. Arti ka samajh nahi aata, neutral on her. Bhau is good. Himanshi and Shefali are good. Paras and Mahira are true villians. Rashmi aur devo pe abhi neutral.

Wanted to write this from so long, glad someone agrees 😊

Yes I liked Sana too from how she started, she lost track when she flipped to paras side and she is really comming out as cunning person. Some say its real her, but if thats true I really feel sorry for her and I hope she learns and changes a few things about her after the game.

I agree Paras and Mahira are vile, I get he is playing games but its too much aag lagaoing for now. Mahira is other contestant whom I liked but things have been changing with her as well recently.

Aarti ka use khud nai samjh aa raha, hum kya samjhenge 😉

Himashi was good for me untill that push, looks like she is loosing her mind too. I am hearing she slapped sana and is evicted here in some post, hoping that is not true.

Yes Shefali is going great suprisingly, I was expecting this from Vishal but he is another big disappointment. Shefali is also dealing with shukla very well, may be the best in the house for now. She talks to him but also does not take any shit from him and talks to him only when he is calm. She is not letting other peoples yellings affect her much too. I hope she continues.

Haan I hope Rashmi Devo come out more. Rashmi se I have less hopes, she is good but not meant for the game, khud hi faas jati hai apne words mei. Devo is cool but a bit confused as people have changes drastically. Good to see she atleast is observing her people playing with her atleast.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Hi agree with some of your points OP. The problems between Sid and Asim run deep. For Asim it’s a matter of self respect and for Sid it’s Ego. For Asim he doesn’t like being treated inferior ( if Shukla ever gave him the respect he gives to Sana there would be no issue) and for Shukla it’s simply ego, like how can someone who listened to me for 4 weeks suddenly develop a backbone and go against me and question my authority.

Shukla’s behaviour might work with some one like arti who loves him clearly or someone like Vishal or paras who are just playing a game and will use it to their advantage. With Asim that wasn’t the case- he’s not a submissive person by nature and above and beyond a point his patience level died down and all this pent up anger came out and he provoked Shukla who reacted as badly as he always reacts to everything.

People can blame Himanshi, Shefali and Sana Paras all for adding fuel to the fire which they probably have done. But the fire was already there between the two and was aggravated by everyone else. I really don’t see them being friends now for the remainder of the season mainly for the Game reason. This season was desperate to find a rivalary for so long and finally they do have it.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chotimotipsycho

Hi agree with some of your points OP. The problems between Sid and Asim run deep. For Asim it’s a matter of self respect and for Sid it’s Ego. For Asim he doesn’t like being treated inferior ( if Shukla ever gave him the respect he gives to Sana there would be no issue) and for Shukla it’s simply ego, like how can someone who listened to me for 4 weeks suddenly develop a backbone and go against me and question my authority.

Shukla’s behaviour might work with some one like arti who loves him clearly or someone like Vishal or paras who are just playing a game and will use it to their advantage. With Asim that wasn’t the case- he’s not a submissive person by nature and above and beyond a point his patience level died down and all this pent up anger came out and he provoked Shukla who reacted as badly as he always reacts to everything.

People can blame Himanshi, Shefali and Sana Paras all for adding fuel to the fire which they probably have done. But the fire was already there between the two and was aggravated by everyone else. I really don’t see them being friends now for the remainder of the season mainly for the Game reason. This season was desperate to find a rivalary for so long and finally they do have it.

Yea now entire season will be shukla vs Asim. When it started out as Rashmi vs. Shukla. Two alphas. Rashmi completely sidelined. Rest are only playing supporting characters in these 2 teams now.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chotimotipsycho

Hi agree with some of your points OP. The problems between Sid and Asim run deep. For Asim it’s a matter of self respect and for Sid it’s Ego. For Asim he doesn’t like being treated inferior ( if Shukla ever gave him the respect he gives to Sana there would be no issue) and for Shukla it’s simply ego, like how can someone who listened to me for 4 weeks suddenly develop a backbone and go against me and question my authority.

Shukla’s behaviour might work with some one like arti who loves him clearly or someone like Vishal or paras who are just playing a game and will use it to their advantage. With Asim that wasn’t the case- he’s not a submissive person by nature and above and beyond a point his patience level died down and all this pent up anger came out and he provoked Shukla who reacted as badly as he always reacts to everything.

People can blame Himanshi, Shefali and Sana Paras all for adding fuel to the fire which they probably have done. But the fire was already there between the two and was aggravated by everyone else. I really don’t see them being friends now for the remainder of the season mainly for the Game reason. This season was desperate to find a rivalary for so long and finally they do have it.

I agree to that totally, there were problems already which if were sorted by Shukla wouldn't have inflated so huge. Yes others are responsible I agree, but again its about sides being choosen. Asin confided in Shif and Hemanshi, who generally did not instigate him against Shukla but put point against Shukla that they couldn't put before shukla as he does not hear. Whereas paras and gang are clearly using it to blow up the differences and shukla is letting them play him knowingly or unknowingly.

On the other side Asim is only hurting is already huge ego to garner some footage which is turning out negative for both of them. He did make initial efforts to calm them down normally but it alwayx ends up in hue and cry about Asim using him.

Yes friendship is difficult now for sure, other than game reasons

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Posted: 5 years ago
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I liked your take.. i can say unbiased and clear POV 👏

I use to like Sid and Rashmi in the initial days but now i am just with rashmi.

I agree she is not meant for this BB game. She is innocent to play games in BB. The real person so far in this season. I wish she starts playing and win this season (which is like a dream 😆)

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Posted: 5 years ago
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I love love love love LOVE this post. So brilliantly analyzed and well written. I just have two things I want to say in defense of Asim, who I also think is wrong, but nor even close to how wrong Sid has been:

1. Your second last paragraph about the parts of Asim that makes you think Asim is shayad more self-aware and level-headed than Shukla. All the points you listed is beyond enough reason to side with Asim here. Even considering the fact that Shukla has, in the entire month and a half history of this show, NEVER admitted to making a serious mistake. When the whole showdown happened with Asim, even given the clear Weekend bias that everyone is at this point aware of, Shukla should have at least once stopped and considered "Why the hell has my entire team, once the strongest in the house, sided with this guy? Why am I left with just Sana? Is he right here?" But he didn't even entertain that thought (at least visibly). The fact that his real dushmani is with Asim, and yet he never even once went to Shefali or Himanshi or Bhau to at least get their views shows his infinite arrogance. Hell, now he is even mocking Asim as Shefali's poonch. This guy will never stop showing what an absolutely pathetic excuse of a friend he is.

2. You mentioned it alot in passing, but I think an entire thesis can be written on the effect of Weekend ka Vaar on these people. Its their only contact with the outside world all week, and that too with a heavily produced/scripted Salman getting lines fed to him in his ear. Also, its well known if you watch evictee/reviewer interviews that the weekend episodes are shot in a really horrible, unprofessional, haphazard, wild west way. Contestants are expected to get ready in their best clothes and wait infront of the TV since 10 am, but Salman himself only reaches the studio at 7 ish. (According to Abu and multiple other sources on YouTube) So the build-up is f**king crazy. They don't have to cook etc on weekends either, food comes for them (Shefali B recently disclosed this on YouTube), so all they do is stick around waiting for Salman, who has a horrible reputation of being late to everything ever. So when you FINALLY see a fresh face after a week, that too a megastar who you've been following as a movie fan your whole life, and he gently praises or reprimands you - it has a HUGE effect on you and your game for the coming days. It is for this reason that I have been saying this entire seasons that Shukla should have been given an earful from the very beginning for his own sake. Even when Shukla was wrong (which was almost every week once at least lol), his feedback would always be worded like "how can you be so smart and logical, yet be so aggressive?". Always sugarcoated. So, the man already had a giant ego, plus it kept getting inflated and inflated and inflated and it has reached now where his image is beyond repair.

3. (BONUS POINT LOL) So, this is slightly off-topic but I wanna bring up Sana too while we're on this WKV discussion. The above reason is exactly why Sana has become this completely insufferable immature annoying brat that we see. She is naturally childish and naive, which is often interpreted as cuteness especially for young, attractive girls. When she kept getting this praise again and again and again via Salman (through direct praise, but also through subtle bursts of attention like when he asks her to repeat what he says for comic effect). This is why a 25-year old girl, who presumably is at least a little level-headed since she has a successful career in regional music and modeling, is now acting like a 12-year old obsessed possessive brat who creates dramas and sings bumro bumro, or who gets visibly upset when someone sleeps in her bed for like 10 mins with her 'friend.' WKV episodes are so powerful, and in the very vulnerable position all these people are (locked up in a human zoo for months, missing home, but also the immense pressure of knowing how they come across on camera will make or break their career and they have zero power over how it is edited), it is extremely influential to your self-image, self-worth, and general mental health.

Once again - amazing amazing post! Users like you make this forum such a great platform! <3

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Brilliant and level-headed post 👍

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: -PD-

I liked your take.. i can say unbiased and clear POV 👏

I use to like Sid and Rashmi in the initial days but now i am just with rashmi.

I agree she is not meant for this BB game. She is innocent to play games in BB. The real person so far in this season. I wish she starts playing and win this season (which is like a dream 😆)

Thank you so much, glad we agree 😊

I am liking Rashmi too, and yes she is too good for the game. I really do bad for her sometimes with people only using her 😒

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