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Posted: 8 years ago
@naomi Maya didnt rise above her situations. The dark childhood was bought back to her every time and she reacted. And that reaction send her into the abyss she currently is in. But Maya has acted once. But no one looks at that action. As that action doesnt matter at this point. Need to check whether CVs are going in the direction of my thinking. Maya asking Maa Lakshmi to be with Arjun indicates that.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: BeyondHorizon


I guess its about time we stopped blaming others for Maya's actions. Saanjh pulling Maya off the stage which caused her fake miscarriage or Maya slipping off the stairs was not a deliberate act on Saanjh or VM's part. Neither of them did it with the intention of letting Maya suffer a miscarriage. All VM wanted was to go to Ayan and expose Maya's truth. It was Maya who came in front of VM and stopped her from going to her son who was on deathbed and coz of whom? Maya! Why didn't Maya think of her state and give preference to her child rather than tailing after VM? VM felt God snatched Maya's child from her coz she made an attempt to kill her child. If someone has put ur child on deathbed would you sympathize with them if they lost their child? I guess no. You will feel that person deserved what they got and so did VM. But she did realise her mistake. She knew she was wrong to curse that child as it was not just Maya's but Arjun's as well. She had the grace to admit she was responsible for the death of her grandchild but what of Maya who commits a crime and later justifies her actions? I am not justifying VM but her actions are understandable. You cannot call a person vile for being human and humans err but can the same be said about Maya? Vandana had given Maya the benefit of doubt when she came back from asylum but after being confirmed of her brutally harming her son, would VM be OK? Should she have told Maya you butchered my son but you are pregnant. So all your crimes can be forgiven? VM did not deserve to die. Had VM pushed Maya I would still say she was responsible for the accident but she did not. It was Maya who lost the grip and fell. As for VM making an attempt to kill Maya it was on pure impulse and not a calculated move like Maya's. Maya had falsely accused Ayan of rape. Her son who was about to be married is now behind bars coz of an insane woman. Being a mother it was wrong on VM's part to retaliate? What crime had VM committed that Maya resorted to put Ayan behind bars? Maya had made a deliberate attempt to ruin VM's son's life but had VM deliberately pushed Maya to suffer a miscarriage? How can the two situations be compared even?

What i have written is purely my point of view...i didn't force anyone to agree to it...one thing i want to answer if someone has put my child on deathbed then i will only hate that person who was responsible for my child condition i will also make sure that my hatred should not reach their child..
for u ayan , saanjh ,vandana all are innocent for me they are not..we are poles apart ..let's agree to disagreee😊
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: crystalmoon

Exercise caution for how long exactly.

It was a traumatic night Saanjh could have been with either Grieving Vandana or Wounded Ayan.
Arjun had gone gods knows where to lick his wounds, drinking his sorrows not receiving her calls
so at the time she did what she could which was best for everyone.

And no amount of carefulness or caution could have stopped Maya
I think it is a established fact that Maya can commit murder in all sorts of situations no matter what the circumstances are.

Ashwin had a gun and she was wearing a heavy lehnga.
Samaya was taller and stronger than her she still managed to manhandle and throw him in the back of her car.
She was 8 months pregnant when she tried to kill Ayan.

Even if Saanjh and Vandana had hired a trained bodyguard to protect themselves Maya would have found a way, because thats the sort of person she is. She thinks it is due to Vandana that Arjun left her and not because of her own sins and hence would have crossed all the limits to avenge her pain.


Totally agree with u. Saanjh did was best for everyone. When vandana opened the door for first time she realised there is no saanjh then after that if she doesn't open the door what could maya do? Nothing.Saanjh did was best for vandana but she wasn't in the right frame of mind. Even when vandana realised there is someone inside she could have just locked the door from outside and called someone but we can totally understand her. She was mentally exhausted.

Criminals like maya find different ways so stop blaming saanjh.
Maya type of people should be jailed.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: anshvi

It will always be others' fault.


If Vandana had accepted Maya then Maya would not have killed anyone so now it is Vadnana's 'karma' that she got killed and she deserved it 😕

It was Ayaan's 'karma' that he got jailed and brutally hit by the car because he used bad words and because he instigated so now it is his fault and is bearing the consequences 😕

It was Saanjh's 'karma' that Prem died..it was her fault. 😕


I don't understand one thing...shouldn't punishment be decided as per the mistake

If a man steals say 10 rs. then is it his karma or punishment if he gets hanged for that..will that be fair 😕

If he steals money then he should be in prison for a few days right not get hanged !

Same way if Vandana didn't accept Maya so she deserves death 😕 If Vandana was an orthodox woman so she deserves to die in a box like this 😕

If Ayaan wanted to save his brother and thus instigated Maya so he deserves to be in jail and in hospital and lose his mom 😕

If Saanjh tried to prove Maya wrong and tried to be Arjun's support so it's her fault and punishment that Prem died 😕

So , all these people deserve what all they are going through ?

How is that even fair ?

I completely disagree with those who say that because of their mistakes Maya is doing all this and it is their karma if they are suffering.

I don't understand that few can empathize with Maya on one hand but on the other don't feel empathy for these characters

Yes they are humans and they may have made mistakes but they don't deserve what they have gone through because of Maya.

As I said death sentence for stealing food or 10rs how is that fair ! Punishment should be decided as per the crime.



Best post

For every crime of Maya baby, we have karma as an excuse

It seems like Maya has adopted karma

Next what? The way Maya treated Ganesha post her fake miscarriage was Ganesha's Karma?
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Posted: 8 years ago
@ Shruti Please analyse the new promo with Maya s dead body and Arjun walking above it.

Yes Maya is a criminal a murderer a witch , but people still love her . I really don't like why people judge her fans. If we can love the violence n crime in got/dexter there is absolutely no harm in enjoying Maya s antics.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: siri456


What i have written is purely my point of view...i didn't force anyone to agree to it...one thing i want to answer if someone has put my child on deathbed then i will only hate that person who was responsible for my child condition i will also make sure that my hatred should not reach their child..
for u ayan , saanjh ,vandana all are innocent for me they are not..we are poles apart ..let's agree to disagreee😊


Well a forum is called a forum coz ppl with opposing views can put forth their arguments for points made by others without being disrespectful. I had no intention of doing that to anyone. But a discussion can go forward only if we exchange our thoughts in a civil manner and I guess my tone was civil. If only like minded ppl want to form a group to discuss topics then the discussion will be monotonous. So if it offended you am sorry but the that was not the intent 😊

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Posted: 8 years ago
I also want to ask how healthy is the duffer dusky relationship ? I have seen them slap each other a few times and today s episode just makes me feel , they are quiet toxic. As they both feel physically hurting each other is fine , they just sweep the incident off the table . Very strange
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: BeyondHorizon


Well a forum is called a forum coz ppl with opposing views can put forth their arguments for points made by others without being disrespectful. I had no intention of doing that to anyone. But a discussion can go forward only if we exchange our thoughts in a civil manner and I guess my tone was civil. If only like minded ppl want to form a group to discuss topics then the discussion will be monotonous. So if it offended you am sorry but the that was not the intent 😊

don't be sorry ...i didn't tell u that u disrespected me..what i thought was the way u r seeing the things and the way i'm seeing is totally different that will never match...hope i was not rude to u...i just like shruti's analysis and i'm fan of her analysis...i just doesn't wanted to disturb the environment of this thread...so i stopped the discussion there itself..hope u understand😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Well VM was telling Saanjh understood Arjun. Today's episode proved who had understood Arjun. Who knew him the most. Unfortunatley it is not Saanjh but the bad and mad Maya. Did Arjun do anything which Maya didnt tell. He broke everything. Dusky tried to stop him. He didnt listen. Dusky asked promise. He gave promise. Maya was telling Arjun and his hollow promises. The woman who has experienced those broken 6 vows knows him better than the woman who has captured him in an image of duffer.

Well it was supposed to be that. With two partners each wanting the control of other, it was meant to happen. Destruction of both. Whenever third wheel comes between 2 people what we get is destruction only. I still remember Suman telling her daughter. Dont go and become third wheel between a couple. Even God is not allowed there. Go and have a life for yourself. It was one of the most sane advice I had heard in Beyhadh and yes Prem and Suman were very grounded people. Arjun bought Saanjh, Maya bought Samay. Samay tried to come out of Maya's grip. Maya killed him. Dusky never tried to come out of Arjun's grip.

Arjun told in the war of love and hatred, there is either win or death. If hatred wins it is death, if love wins it is life. War is between Arjun's hatred and Maya's love. Maya's beyhadh love. Power of Arjun's hatred Saanjh. Power of Maya's beyhadh love Ganesha. Equation is set. Battle lines are drawn. Only battle has to be fought. Now how the battle will be fought we have to see.

Arjun tells Vandana till he is alive he wont leave Maya. What does that mean. Well this guy confuses me a lot. I will come to that later.

Anyways Maya knows Arjun is coming to kill her. She is waiting for him telling she is finished. Now there is light for her darkness. Of course Mauritus Pandit prediction, he cannot remove the darkness inside you. Yes Maya had come to Arjun with the hope of life. But then when she told I am afraid of Arjun, it was kind of cycle complete. She was afraid of the man whom she believed will security for her from Ashwin. It showed no one can help to remove the darkness inside you. You have to make the concerted effort to do it. You have to look out for fighting the darkness, not falling to compulsions that drive you again and again into the darkness.

One thing Maya kept the list of her crimes today. Ashwin, Prem, Samay and Vandana. Where did Pandit and that Vijay guy go. Or have CVs forgotten them. Because they too died.
Jhanvi looks on. Ayan is alive as of now. One thing I have to give CVs. A lady who had given birth walks across killing and a critically injured man is sitting as if he had just suffered a fracture and some bruises. Kahan se medical seekh ke aaye ho. So story is entering its last phase.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@hugsandkisses when comes to Arjun Saanjh has no self respect. She way too much accommodates his abuses and even the physical slapping today. She was hurt today by Arjun's slapping, and he was done much more abuse to her earlier also. But she tolerates.
Maya too tolerates his emotional abuse keeping Dusky with him. Actually the women fights while this man leads an irresponsible life not owning up any of his actions.

Coming to promo I have been taught hatred ends with a person's death. You are not supposed to disrespect a dead body. What Arjun did was disrespecting the woman with whom he had shared his life. A woman whatever her faults may be had shared her body, mind and soul with him. Had carried his baby in her womb. A woman who allowed him to sit in a posh office. Yes Maya did give all this to him. So to the dead body a basic respect can be shown which he didnt do.
That crossing over also shows he has gotten over Maya or he is finished with Maya. Maya Arjun Sharma is dead. Atleast symbolically dead if she is coming back.

Marriage of Arjun and Maya happened over the death of Ashwin, it was on a pyre. So a pyre only will be its end or the way that marriage happened. So it had to happen. Now let us see what happens.

Coming t enjoying Maya's character or violence I am from Kerala where I had watched many unconventional movies in the late 80s and early 90s. Rajavinte Makan literally glorified a don and VIncent Gomez made Mohanlal a superstar overnight.
Naduvazhigal was blood bath. It was another super hit movie. New Delhi shakes you. Especially the death of Suresh who is actually innocent in the blood bath of GK's revenge. Panchagni and Kasturiman had female protoganists who kills. Aaryan, watch it and I will guarantee you wont sleep for atleast a night.
Then there is Thalavattom. With one last scene Priyadarshan hits you hard, very hard. So I had watched many such movies, complex movies where the protoganist is not actually white and it is exactly not battle of good over evil where many expects it to be linear. But the script makes the viewer understand why the protoganist did what he did. Kireedom is another one in the league and so is Devasuram. Especially Devasuram where the character of Mangallaserry Neelakantan is very complex.

Maya is nothing compared to those characters. If you watch Beyhadh after watching EK and RS and similar shows well it will be difficult to digest.

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