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Posted: 8 years ago
@aditi since Samay is back, every single thing will be made sense as the perception lifts. Quite lot of aspects of season 2 can be made sense only when equation starts its correction. That's why I had always warned, it is will be really torture to sit through season2. Ideally a leaner script should have made Beyhadh a show of say 100-150 episodes so that the dragging of season 2 could have been avoided. If needed based on TRP phase 3 could have been dragged as obviously it will be more thrilling.
Rajiv is the man who taught Maya two important lessons. One without benefit nobody does anything for anyone. Those in power exploit the weak, use them. Because when Maya came to Rajiv she was weak. Rajiv didnt do anything for truth or anything as I said it was a business deal.
There is nothing called true love in this world or marriage is the beautiful name given for an institution that is used to satisfy the carnal and selfish needs. It is also a power play.

Rajiv's first lesson was true with respect to hers and Rajiv's relation of the past, Rajiv's second lesson was true as far as her parents marriage went.

Yes Maya was Ashwin's daughter, but she sustained in this world because of Rajiv's teachings. At every occasion everyone proved to her Rajiv was right. She didnt see anyone who disproved Rajiv's lessons.

It was not that Maya didnt wanted to change. But she as a person could never trust anyone and one part of her always remembered Rajiv's 2 teachings and hence made the back up plan. If Duffer disproved Rajiv then there was no need of her back up plan. But Duffer proved Rajiv right in his own way.
Yes he also looked for benefits in relation. Maya was for luxury and Dusky for peace. He could never respect the women in his life properly. Arjun also exploited both the ladies. His dialogue if I reduce her madness her love will go. In a way he preferred Maya's obsession and Saanjh's door mat attitude.

Dusky of course talked something, did something else. We need to know if Dusky is a lawyer, Maya learned the lessons of sustenance from a master lawyer called Rajiv Randhawa who had in fact defeated Ashwin to her for a price.

Since Maya's way of life has been influenced by this man and his teachings, only he can teach her the 3rd and most important lesson of the life. I would love to see what Rajiv teaches her this time. Because only he can sustain her. Only his teachings can show her the light. He had done it once for her in one way, where in her physical space light came, but in her emotional space darkness continued as she used it for her survival. He himself has to do it the different way, so that she sees the light in her emotional space.

Beyhadh has always moved in a combination of 3. So 3 is the most important number of Beyhadh also.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@aditi since Samay is back, every single thing will be made sense as the perception lifts. Quite lot of aspects of season 2 can be made sense only when equation starts its correction. That's why I had always warned, it is will be really torture to sit through season2. Ideally a leaner script should have made Beyhadh a show of say 100-150 episodes so that the dragging of season 2 could have been avoided. If needed based on TRP phase 3 could have been dragged as obviously it will be more thrilling.

Rajiv is the man who taught Maya two important lessons. One without benefit nobody does anything for anyone. Those in power exploit the weak, use them. Because when Maya came to Rajiv she was weak. Rajiv didnt do anything for truth or anything as I said it was a business deal.
There is nothing called true love in this world or marriage is the beautiful name given for an institution that is used to satisfy the carnal and selfish needs. It is also a power play.

Rajiv's first lesson was true with respect to hers and Rajiv's relation of the past, Rajiv's second lesson was true as far as her parents marriage went.

Yes Maya was Ashwin's daughter, but she sustained in this world because of Rajiv's teachings. At every occasion everyone proved to her Rajiv was right. She didnt see anyone who disproved Rajiv's lessons.

It was not that Maya didnt wanted to change. But she as a person could never trust anyone and one part of her always remembered Rajiv's 2 teachings and hence made the back up plan. If Duffer disproved Rajiv then there was no need of her back up plan. But Duffer proved Rajiv right in his own way.
Yes he also looked for benefits in relation. Maya was for luxury and Dusky for peace. He could never respect the women in his life properly. Arjun also exploited both the ladies. His dialogue if I reduce her madness her love will go. In a way he preferred Maya's obsession and Saanjh's door mat attitude.

Dusky of course talked something, did something else. We need to know if Dusky is a lawyer, Maya learned the lessons of sustenance from a master lawyer called Rajiv Randhawa who had in fact defeated Ashwin to her for a price.

Since Maya's way of life has been influenced by this man and his teachings, only he can teach her the 3rd and most important lesson of the life. I would love to see what Rajiv teaches her this time. Because only he can sustain her. Only his teachings can show her the light. He had done it once for her in one way, where in her physical space light came, but in her emotional space darkness continued as she used it for her survival. He himself has to do it the different way, so that she sees the light in her emotional space.

Beyhadh has always moved in a combination of 3. So 3 is the most important number of Beyhadh also.


Yes u had asked to skip phase 2 😆
It was really torturous, sply Maya's character hardly made sense n others were self righteous.

But Shruthi di, don't u think Samay is also a psychopath so how can he teach something good to Maya?

I think Maya dying will be the final victory for her, when she will find peace n light. But Arjun has to get Maya alive to prove his innocence. Also I don't think CVs will show Maya dying. As death will be easy way out for her. I guess Samay will finally make her live with the guilt/pain n survive with it.

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Posted: 8 years ago
@aditi let us keep that question hanging. Let me see how Rajiv uff Samay behaving. I did love the paraphelia he send to Maya before announcing his entry. 😆😆
Coming to Maya death. No Maya cannot die. World needs Maya or perception for its sustenance. Maya has to be there. So she wont, should not die😆😆
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@aditi let us keep that question hanging. Let me see how Rajiv uff Samay behaving. I did love the paraphelia he send to Maya before announcing his entry. 😆😆

Coming to Maya death. No Maya cannot die. World needs Maya or perception for its sustenance. Maya has to be there. So she wont, should not die😆😆


Those phasi ke phande exactly of the number of murders Maya has done 😆
Samay/Time is the only one who can set Illusion/Maya straight😆
I feel Samay will be playing double game . Let's see how he does.

Haan Maya won't die sply after watching the recent episodes, she's not dying. Like u said Perception has to be alive.

One thing Shruthi di, yesterday it actually looked as if Arjun was very well aware of all the crimes Maya has done, Ashwin's murder, Jhanvi's accident, Ayaan's case , at least had a clue abt it. We know Samay's death also he agreed to Maya n finally Maya did the murder. So he doesn't care abt ppl dying n Maya being a criminal. He just had problem with Maya planting Samay in Saanjh's life 😆 n later VMs death ... The first reason is very lame 😆
Isn't supporting a criminal also a crime? So hasn't Arjun already done a crime n hence he's paying so badly? When will Saanjh see her duffer's this side? 😆

And why hasn't Maya tried to kill Saanjh 😕😆
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Posted: 8 years ago

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Saanjh OTT drama is really annoying. The so called mastermind( which cvs will turn to be successful) is really not to Maya's level, and I don't know how to describe that, it's like they are just playing around while Maya executes all her plans with " class" and intelligence.

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@shruti: Do you think that Samay is really with Maya?
And I like the analysis where you said that Maya, such a smart lady got attracted to Arjun,but why?
And yes, it was not love from Arjun's side, it was just lust.



Maya is class & intelligence while Dusky is plain stupid & irritating. None of her plans worked till now. The most pathetic & weak written character is Dusky If Beyhadh cvs didnt hadnt taken us viewers as idiots who they can feed anything Dusky's suddenly appearing & accusing inspector of losing Arjuns body sounded ridiculous. Point 1 Arjun isnt dead & they have the lab reports which suggest he has been injected with VD. Point 2 . Beat the shit out of the co conspirators the doctor the sweeper & all those who helped in his great escape plan to blurt out the truth that Saanjh was the one bribing them to help Arjun out of the jail. Point 3. The inspector himself saw Dusky accompanying Duffer in the ambulance along with the driver & another officer. Tell her she was the last one to be seen with the body. Point 4. Don't know how Suman's terrible nautanki is to be believed. They have a CCTV footage of her coming out of the house howling how she was mistreated by her daughter & so must have a footage of one returning also minus suitcase .
Only these idiotic bloopers are forced down our throat to show Saanjh as some person with brain otherwise shes the biggest idiot that comes across. Now even its Duffer who is coming with the plans while Saanjh just listens.

Shruti di I too agree it was lust from Arjuns side & her money that attracted him to her.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@aditi one big correction Arjun's problem was not Maya putting Samay in Saanjh's life. His problem was Maya putting Samay between them 😆😆. The dialogue is clear. Tumne Samay ko hamare beech mein laya in the hospital post Maya's miscarriage.
We all had discussed about what you said. So his problem was not Maya accused Ayan of rape, was co conspirator in Prem's death, put Samay in Saanjh's life, tortured VM nothing, but Maya bought Samay between them. 😆😆😆

In a way it goes in line with his dialogue if Maya's madness is reduced her love for him will get reduced. So a man taking a pie of his wife's attention was his problem, not her actual crimes. He was dilly dallying with his so called friend, which his wife was supposed to tolerate. What double standards.
Coming to Saanjh, Saanjh Arjun ka pagalpan hai. You can take someone's life, but to kill the pagalpan that person has to take a stand. No point killing her. Just show the world how Arjun's pagalpan is a major cause of destruction. Till this point is realized destruction will continue. As you see Maya only, not Arjun's pagalpan( You dont know how happy I was when CVs made Arjun mouth that dialogue, dusky mera pagalpan hai. Arjun has not called any other character his pagalpan. Only Dusky. And it shows😆😆 )

@lephca yes attraction and benefits along with the knowledge that Maya has a certain set of vulnerability which will keep her under him. Arjun is planning, Dusky is executing. Still she has moral high ground. Dusky has taken anticipatory bail that's why the inspector couldnt do much to her. But yes she can be observed. That inspector wont keep quiet. I hope to get the equation from this week's episodes. Once you have the equation then it is easy to open the plot.
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Posted: 8 years ago

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Those phasi ke phande exactly of the number of murders Maya has done 😆
Samay/Time is the only one who can set Illusion/Maya straight😆
I feel Samay will be playing double game . Let's see how he does.

Haan Maya won't die sply after watching the recent episodes, she's not dying. Like u said Perception has to be alive.

One thing Shruthi di, yesterday it actually looked as if Arjun was very well aware of all the crimes Maya has done, Ashwin's murder, Jhanvi's accident, Ayaan's case , at least had a clue abt it. We know Samay's death also he agreed to Maya n finally Maya did the murder. So he doesn't care abt ppl dying n Maya being a criminal. He just had problem with Maya planting Samay in Saanjh's life 😆 n later VMs death ... The first reason is very lame 😆
Isn't supporting a criminal also a crime? So hasn't Arjun already done a crime n hence he's paying so badly? When will Saanjh see her duffer's this side? 😆

And why hasn't Maya tried to kill Saanjh 😕😆



This was the same Arjun who had once sneaked out in the night to meet Saanjh to tell her he thinks Jhanvi killed Ashwin but she should do something to save her. He didnt care if it was Jhanvi or Maya who killed him , he just wanted either of them saved. To which Saanjh gave big lectures about honesty & not helping him. When later in the PS Saanjh told him that the person who killed Jhanvi is not a leftie so that omits Jhanvi since shes leftie then its clear Maya was the murderer because he knew he didnt kill Ashwin & only three of them were suspects. But didnt see him having any problem about it. This guy is such a fattu that he was screaming like hell even was about to slap Saanjh and go against anyone for his wife because he was ferocious about his brother trying to rape his wife, the same wife who he hated a day ago & said he didnt care whatever happened to her & wished her death. Then his wife drops the case & without proving that his brother was innocent this same Duffer sends his pregnant wife home with a so called criminal not before lecturing her that his Dusky is his pagalpan & he will never leave her & his wife has to accept it. I have never seen a more 2rs character than this Arjun & him shouting revenge is sounding ridiculous because hes the cause of everything.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@aditi one big correction Arjun's problem was not Maya putting Samay in Saanjh's life. His problem was Maya putting Samay between them 😆😆. The dialogue is clear. Tumne Samay ko hamare beech mein laya in the hospital post Maya's miscarriage.

We all had discussed about what you said. So his problem was not Maya accused Ayan of rape, was co conspirator in Prem's death, put Samay in Saanjh's life, tortured VM nothing, but Maya bought Samay between them. 😆😆😆

In a way it goes in line with his dialogue if Maya's madness is reduced her love for him will get reduced. So a man taking a pie of his wife's attention was his problem, not her actual crimes. He was dilly dallying with his so called friend, which his wife was supposed to tolerate. What double standards.
Coming to Saanjh, Saanjh Arjun ka pagalpan hai. You can take someone's life, but to kill the pagalpan that person has to take a stand. No point killing her. Just show the world how Arjun's pagalpan is a major cause of destruction. Till this point is realized destruction will continue. As you see Maya only, not Arjun's pagalpan( You dont know how happy I was when CVs made Arjun mouth that dialogue, dusky mera pagalpan hai. Arjun has not called any other character his pagalpan. Only Dusky. And it shows😆😆 )



Oh! I didn't watch those episodes, so dunno exact dialogues. That is even more lame 😆

That is symbolic Shruthi di, I mean madness part, but logically Maya should have tried to kill Saanjh first n then anyone else, but here she kills others 😆
But like u said , Dusky was a major part of her back up plan, hence she didn't kill her, but burnt her like brinjal😆

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Posted: 8 years ago
@shruthiravi, he betrayed her. They made a deal and he betrayed her. Yes, Rajiv taught Maya that everyone is doing something just for their own benefit. Strong uses weak. And the third, the most important - everyone betray. And Duffer proved each of these lessons
Can Rajiv give light to Maya? Or give her back?
Not woman Maya crimes follows her. No. Perception&time follows to kill Maya. Time has long played in this cruel sadistic game to get Maya, he excelled
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Posted: 8 years ago
2 be honest I find maya arjun saanj all of them abnormal mayas is visible but saanj arjuns not.arjun saanjs so called friendship was toxic if it was any normal wife simply had divorced him and ended this but it's maya so she did all crimes but this doesn't justify her too.i feel both 3 're equally wrong maya wrong in doing crimes arjun saanj not respect8ng the limits I will blame arjun more he knew saanjs feelings before marriage but he still didn't distance from her.

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