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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#1001

@Laska about the baby more than Ayan I will keep the error at Duffer's door step only, as somehow for me Ayan was vengeful and his emotions were all over the place. Duffer's attention should have been to Ayan, Maya and the child most importantly child and not Dusky.

@anshvi I will maintain it was an accident which Arjun could have avoided , if he had not taken the hand of Saanjh that night. Arjun took the hand of his madness( I dont say it, in the show Arjun himself tells Saanjh is his madness and Ayan his life. Saanjh mera pagalpan aur Ayan meri jaan) and not his life. I dont put much blame on Ayan for the accident as I could understand his emotional condition, but Duffer yes. The whole process started with Duffer taking Dusky's hand.

And I would say many time Arjun had left his life's hand or Ayan's hand. His madness stands in front, whereas his life is hidden.

Maya's life is Arjun, Arjun's life is Ayan. That's the equation.

For me Maya's biggest mistake was making Ayan collateral damage and manipulating Suman. Half her lives problems would have been solved if she had these 2 people by her side. It was very clear in season 1.

Ayan was supportive of his bhabi. I had always felt the bangle that Maya threw out which Ayan had bought she had thrown out life.

Suman had known her as a woman. Instead of manipulating during Holi if she had expressed herself to Suman what she was feeling seeing Arjun and Saanjh, if she had told she doesnt know where friendship ends and where love begins, Suman might have put brakes on her daughter. Because I felt Suman was sensible enough to understand it

These 2 mistakes finally led her to multiple crimes

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Laska

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Posted: 8 years ago

#1002

@shruthiravi, most of all responsibility on Duffer, because it was Duffer who Maya asked to save the child. He promised Maya that nothing would happen to the child. It was Duffer whom Maya said that she didn't want to return. She was good at the psychiatric hospital, yes, so this normal sane good world is so normal sane and good that Maya and the child were much better and safer at the psychiatric hospital among the tumultuous than among the inhabitants of this normal sane good world

But I can't remove responsibility from Ayan. The chain of events was launched by him. The very chain that led to child's death. He isn't 9 years old, he isn't a child, his thirst for revenge to Maya was much stronger than even one thought about Duffer's child, about Duffer's life

Maya's mistake was that she released Ayan from prison. Here she really made a fatal error

I can't in any way call Ayan a collateral damage. When did he come with VM to Maya, what did he expect? What Maya should do? Rush to him with an embrace? The VM brazenly and rude directly on the doorstep of the house of Maya, and Ayan stands and smiles as if nothing had happened. What did he expect at all? And he never supported Maya, he mocked how VM treats her, and how Maya begs VM to accept her. He was always ours and yours, he always tried to sit on two chairs at the same time. He's a hypocrite. He always supported VM against Duffer. And he will support anyone against Maya. Support it isn't words, but actions. And Ayan's actions speak quite differently

If Ayan came alone, and Maya did this, it would be a different matter. But Ayan came with VM, which once again wanted through a loophole called Ayan to sneak into Duffer's life

Well, Suman. Suman herself lowered her eyes to the ground, seeing Dusky's behavior. But to Dusky Suman spoke about poor Maya. And not about poor mother Suman, who has to contemplate such frivolous behavior of the daughter and burns in shame. Prem had said much earlier that Dusky's and Duffer's relationships crossed all limits. But neither Prem nor Suman can't cope with Dusky

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#1003

@Laska the CVs have kept a very interesting equation with respect to Ayan. Ayan was a game changer in every season. I still dont believe he is a linear character. There is something abt him I am unable to put fingers on. To be frank it is difficult to put the fingers on motive of both Sharma boys. They are unpredictable. Arjun atleast now the motive is clear. Ayan still it is not clear.

Whereas both the woman Maya and Saanjh the motive is clear.

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#1004

24/7/2017

Samay is back. Rajiv is back.Before your time ends Maya, your time will come. How can that line go wrong. How can Maya be there without time. How can the dance of illusion continue without time. So a Maya whose all plans have failed, who is sitting tired in a room get time. I dont know what time wants from her. Does he wants revenge from her. Yes it is natural for time to take revenge from Maya. After all Maya has used him and then killed him. Maya had never responded to him.

Rajiv a man who for a price gave Maya the light of her life. Fashion and City. In a way you look of the 3 men in Maya's life, Rajiv was the man who did business with her as a business partner.

Yes Rajiv didnt hide his intentions. For her body, he offered her his services. And yes he did his service spectacularly also. But Maya was somewhere between ethics and business. She didnt take it as what she got from Rajiv as a business deal and she burned him. Rajiv also over stepped the business deal in his lust for Maya and got exploited by her. Otherwise if you look Rajiv and Maya are perfect business partners if they stay in their limits. Both are intellectual. Both are accomplished in their own might. Yes Rajiv is an accomplished lawyer, Maya is an accomplished owner of Fashion and City. Their brains match. Their abilites match.

So it is a question in itself what did Maya find in Duffer. How is he different from Ashwin or for that matter Rajiv. What are his accomplishments. What did Maya see in him.

Duffer and Dusky. Well made plan. Maya has not done everything alone. Jhanvi is not with Maya. Samay is dead. Well we know for sure one assumption is wrong. Samay is not dead. Jhanvi. I have no clue what this woman want. Which side she is. But it is not enough, we need the 3rd and most important assumption. The connecting assumption. Aa yes. I forgot. Why Maya didnt kill Arjun. Because Arjun's death is Maya's death. Maya doesnt exist without Arjun. Looks good at this moment. Let it stay there.

And what did Dusky tell to Arjun. Maya loves you Arjun. How much you will lie Dusky. Just two weeks back you said in your mind, Maya you doesnt love Arjun, your love is poison. Dusky's dialogues and her thoughts both goes in parallel lines.

Well Dusky has done another wonderful thing. Dusky has instigated the inspector. With 1st year degree she did so much. With 2nd year degree she will get Ayan out and with 3rd year degree she will prove Arjun innocent. It has simply not gone well with the inspector because he was insulted in front of full media. Dusky show a bit of humbleness than moral high handedness.It will take you a long way. Already your so called law degree has made Ayan a rapist in front of the world, Duffer a murderer in front of the world. Talk less about your degree, prove that degree's worthiness by your actions. Even now Duffer is planning and plotting. Suman is behaving intelligent than you. I have not seen any brain from you.

Suman is playing with fire. I loved it when the inspector we record everything and showed the suitcase. We need to see how far the drama will go.

Saanjh is with Arjun. Samay is with Maya. The dance now looks interesting. The equation looks interesting, now the variables have to placed the right way for the dance to conclude.

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Fernandes43

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Posted: 8 years ago

#1005

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
24/7/2017

Samay is back. Rajiv is back.Before your time ends Maya, your time will come. How can that line go wrong. How can Maya be there without time. How can the dance of illusion continue without time. So a Maya whose all plans have failed, who is sitting tired in a room get time. I dont know what time wants from her. Does he wants revenge from her. Yes it is natural for time to take revenge from Maya. After all Maya has used him and then killed him. Maya had never responded to him.
Rajiv a man who for a price gave Maya the light of her life. Fashion and City. In a way you look of the 3 men in Maya's life, Rajiv was the man who did business with her as a business partner.
Yes Rajiv didnt hide his intentions. For her body, he offered her his services. And yes he did his service spectacularly also. But Maya was somewhere between ethics and business. She didnt take it as what she got from Rajiv as a business deal and she burned him. Rajiv also over stepped the business deal in his lust for Maya and got exploited by her. Otherwise if you look Rajiv and Maya are perfect business partners if they stay in their limits. Both are intellectual. Both are accomplished in their own might. Yes Rajiv is an accomplished lawyer, Maya is an accomplished owner of Fashion and City. Their brains match. Their abilites match.

So it is a question in itself what did Maya find in Duffer. How is he different from Ashwin or for that matter Rajiv. What are his accomplishments. What did Maya see in him.

Duffer and Dusky. Well made plan. Maya has not done everything alone. Jhanvi is not with Maya. Samay is dead. Well we know for sure one assumption is wrong. Samay is not dead. Jhanvi. I have no clue what this woman want. Which side she is. But it is not enough, we need the 3rd and most important assumption. The connecting assumption. Aa yes. I forgot. Why Maya didnt kill Arjun. Because Arjun's death is Maya's death. Maya doesnt exist without Arjun. Looks good at this moment. Let it stay there.
And what did Dusky tell to Arjun. Maya loves you Arjun. How much you will lie Dusky. Just two weeks back you said in your mind, Maya you doesnt love Arjun, your love is poison. Dusky's dialogues and her thoughts both goes in parallel lines.

Well Dusky has done another wonderful thing. Dusky has instigated the inspector. With 1st year degree she did so much. With 2nd year degree she will get Ayan out and with 3rd year degree she will prove Arjun innocent. It has simply not gone well with the inspector because he was insulted in front of full media. Dusky show a bit of humbleness than moral high handedness.It will take you a long way. Already your so called law degree has made Ayan a rapist in front of the world, Duffer a murderer in front of the world. Talk less about your degree, prove that degree's worthiness by your actions. Even now Duffer is planning and plotting. Suman is behaving intelligent than you. I have not seen any brain from you.

Suman is playing with fire. I loved it when the inspector we record everything and showed the suitcase. We need to see how far the drama will go.

Saanjh is with Arjun. Samay is with Maya. The dance now looks interesting. The equation looks interesting, now the variables have to placed the right way for the dance to conclude.

Shiv tandav ( as descried by KT!) vs Khalessi's dance of fire (as compared by JW!)?
Or the dance of Time and Illusion as per the title of this post?
Which dance? May be All!

Edited by Fernandes43 - 8 years ago

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tanvismile

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Posted: 8 years ago

#1006

Suman has brain which dusky doesn't that's how she removed suman and shubh out of jail.

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Y12345

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Posted: 8 years ago

#1007

Saanjh OTT drama is really annoying. The so called mastermind( which cvs will turn to be successful) is really not to Maya's level, and I don't know how to describe that, it's like they are just playing around while Maya executes all her plans with " class" and intelligence.

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@shruti: Do you think that Samay is really with Maya?

And I like the analysis where you said that Maya, such a smart lady got attracted to Arjun,but why?

And yes, it was not love from Arjun's side, it was just lust.

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tanvismile

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Posted: 8 years ago

#1008

Of course maya is true criminal. Planning and plotting is the most easiest game for maya. Right now maya is completely weak seeing samay she will be back with another plan.

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#1009

@Y12 Time is with Maya the girl or rather you can say the girl before 9 years but power of time is against Maya the woman who has committed crimes. You can say for and against. Saanjh has power of time, but to have time her focus has to change.

If what Samay said to Maya is true, what Samay said to Saanjh also has to be true. That when she comes out of the cycle of competition she will find him at the same place.

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CutiepieAD

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Posted: 8 years ago

#1010

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
24/7/2017

Samay is back. Rajiv is back.Before your time ends Maya, your time will come. How can that line go wrong. How can Maya be there without time. How can the dance of illusion continue without time. So a Maya whose all plans have failed, who is sitting tired in a room get time. I dont know what time wants from her. Does he wants revenge from her. Yes it is natural for time to take revenge from Maya. After all Maya has used him and then killed him. Maya had never responded to him.
Rajiv a man who for a price gave Maya the light of her life. Fashion and City. In a way you look of the 3 men in Maya's life, Rajiv was the man who did business with her as a business partner.
Yes Rajiv didnt hide his intentions. For her body, he offered her his services. And yes he did his service spectacularly also. But Maya was somewhere between ethics and business. She didnt take it as what she got from Rajiv as a business deal and she burned him. Rajiv also over stepped the business deal in his lust for Maya and got exploited by her. Otherwise if you look Rajiv and Maya are perfect business partners if they stay in their limits. Both are intellectual. Both are accomplished in their own might. Yes Rajiv is an accomplished lawyer, Maya is an accomplished owner of Fashion and City. Their brains match. Their abilites match.

So it is a question in itself what did Maya find in Duffer. How is he different from Ashwin or for that matter Rajiv. What are his accomplishments. What did Maya see in him.

Duffer and Dusky. Well made plan. Maya has not done everything alone. Jhanvi is not with Maya. Samay is dead. Well we know for sure one assumption is wrong. Samay is not dead. Jhanvi. I have no clue what this woman want. Which side she is. But it is not enough, we need the 3rd and most important assumption. The connecting assumption. Aa yes. I forgot. Why Maya didnt kill Arjun. Because Arjun's death is Maya's death. Maya doesnt exist without Arjun. Looks good at this moment. Let it stay there.
And what did Dusky tell to Arjun. Maya loves you Arjun. How much you will lie Dusky. Just two weeks back you said in your mind, Maya you doesnt love Arjun, your love is poison. Dusky's dialogues and her thoughts both goes in parallel lines.

Well Dusky has done another wonderful thing. Dusky has instigated the inspector. With 1st year degree she did so much. With 2nd year degree she will get Ayan out and with 3rd year degree she will prove Arjun innocent. It has simply not gone well with the inspector because he was insulted in front of full media. Dusky show a bit of humbleness than moral high handedness.It will take you a long way. Already your so called law degree has made Ayan a rapist in front of the world, Duffer a murderer in front of the world. Talk less about your degree, prove that degree's worthiness by your actions. Even now Duffer is planning and plotting. Suman is behaving intelligent than you. I have not seen any brain from you.

Suman is playing with fire. I loved it when the inspector we record everything and showed the suitcase. We need to see how far the drama will go.

Saanjh is with Arjun. Samay is with Maya. The dance now looks interesting. The equation looks interesting, now the variables have to placed the right way for the dance to conclude.

This is such a lovely post Shruthi di!

After long I enjoyed the episode, maybe due to Samay's reentry 😃

Since the story/execution of the show has gone downhill, only good performance can save the show, which Piyush will offer 😛

You have explained the equation of Rajiv and Maya perfectly. It was business deal between the two in the beginning. I don't think there's much wrong in it, this depends on personal choice whether one wants to earn money/power/position by this way or not. Moreover we know that Maya had no other choice to prove herself sane n defeat Ashwin.

Later she decided to burn Rajiv, which was wrong. Like Shahjahan had cut the hands of the the workers who made Taj Mahal so that new Taj Mahal can't be formed, Maya faked her love for Rajiv n got rid of him so that there's no threat to her company.

If Maya couldn't let Rajiv or Ashwin take F&C how could she let Arjun take it? 😆

That's why even after falling for him she never trusted him. That's why I always felt her love towards Arjun was not true. One part of her might have seen him as the light in her life, but that other part of her, who has seen men like Ashwin or Rajiv, made her make a back up plan to trap Arjun whenever she feels he's about to leave her.

TBH That Maya the Queen B was far better than the Maya we see now, who keeps crying n weeping n wants to die with Arjun n her Pati Parmeshwar dialogues ufff , what they turned her into😆

Coming to Arjun. I don't think he's as dark as Rajiv or Ashwin. But he's not even a perfect guy. We all know Maya is a psychopath. And I don't think we can say she ever wanted to change in the first place, if VM had accepted her or something else would have happened, because she if she was willing to change, she wouldn't have made such a plan that too much before marriage.

But if one doesn't have actors to prepare a skit, then how can a skit be prepared? Since Arjun had a toxic relationship with his BFF Dusky, his step mom VM n a hyper bro whose ready to do anything for him, Maya could script their lives.

If Arjun was flawless, if Duffer-Dusky friendship was flawless, then Maya would have never been able to execute her plan. It's not Maya who has destroyed their life, but they themselves have landed into this whirlpool of problems.

First of all Arjun is a pendulum who can switch side anytime. Kabhi Maya is his Jaan, kabhi Ayan is jaan, kabhi Saanjh is pagalpan. Why did he even rant abt Maya to Ayan? N when Ayan came to save him, he switched side n supported Maya?!🤢

I think Arjun knew that Maya is exaggerating the incident, yet he chose to put his bro in jail. And if he loves Maya so much, why didn't he just take her away to a far away country, say London so that Dusky/VM can't trouble. If he's left alone with Maya, he has problems, if someone comes to save him, then he has problems, what does he want? And then who says in front of their pregnant wife that their female BFF is their madness 🤢

Now Saanjh, If Beyhadh as a show has failed anywhere, then it's in writing the character Saanjh... She's so dumb n self righteous. Why has she been shown as a lawyer if she can't help Arjun/Ayan🤢

well does this woman realize that it's not Maya but due to Arjun that her father has died? Arjun can't handle his mad wife in proper way, hence prem died. Someone else in her place would have run away leaving Arjun, but she always comes to him. Arjun also keeps her hanging around, which is absolutely wrong, I feel bad for her at times, but she should not let him use her, she should have some dignity. Just once they should have shown her trying to isolate herself fully from Arjun, but that was never shown. Dialogues are always inconsistent

And her love for Arjun, it's not true love, please!! It's an extreme attachment n she feels he can't do anything without her... Sorry to say Arjun is way smarter than her 😆

Maya as usual exaggerated everything and showed that it wasn't friendship but extra marital affair. The way she exaggerated Ayaan's physical assault as rape, or Dusky's pushing as miscarriage.

Yes Maya also paid, she was faking her pregnancy/miscarriage, but when real miscarriage happened noone believed her, even I felt that she killed her baby, but now I feel it's was an accident ... She will pay more, one by one for all her crimes, but if others a suffering so much then it's due to their own stupidity of voluntarily going into the Lion's den...

And Suman uff how much will she cry

The whole drama to free Arjun didn't make sense to me, 🤢

More than thriller, looked like Kapil Sharma show😆😆

Edited by CutiepieAD - 8 years ago