Dance of Time and Illusion ( Episode Analysis)Part 30updated DTNTPg131

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#411

@aditi which show of Ashish you are referring to " Gunahon ke Devta" . I remember reading something of that sort in that Ashish AT of SKR. Coming to Maya yes she has to lose, that's why I said VM coming to Maya's house is good 😆😆. Acha Shagun hai for the reverse journey to start. And I agree to you, that part of Maya redemption will be hard to watch if it goes as I feel, but I would say it is needed. Needed very much.

What I understood from yesterday epi is Maya is sensitive to words. Her provocation comes through words. And it is understandable because Ashwin had assaulted her using words. More than vision , words haunt her and she reacts. Whenever someone accuses her bad and mad beyond a point she reacts. It happened with Saanjh in court, it happened with Suman in court. To me it is what happened with Ayan also. Remember his flithy dialogues that kick was her reaction to those words. But when Samay came she cannot be bad and mad, so Ayan is made bad. Nazar aur niyath ka farakh. Difference of vision and intend. People believe in vision, not in intend. I believe Maya did something in childhood, but Ashwin presented it in a different way. She is doing the funda exactly like that. What Maya did in childhood was reaction to what Ashwin did to her, but the vision Ashwin created was not what she intended. And he won or so she thinks. Hence she creates that vision for Ayan. Yes that is the way to her real victory to understand creation of vision doesnt mean the vision exists. Only if you accept that vision, that vision becomes reality.

Unfortunately child Maya accepted that vision created by Ashwin as her actions prove. Words affect Maya. She defines intend in words without understand words without your acceptance are hollow in themselves.

Her case is deep psychological damage because of emotional abuse more than physical abuse. She was a victim of emotional abuse by Ashwin and I feel some extend by Jhanvi

@Rendev even I am surprised why Arjun didnt take her to the doctor. Saanjh I feel has guessed Maya has problem with words. I am not sure whether she tried to provoke her with her dialogues of you will be alone.

@sumz what Maya said is a fact. If people dont accept you, dont try to get acceptance. But the point is she is desperately trying to fit in.

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Fernandes43

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Posted: 8 years ago

#412

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
@aditi which show of Ashish you are referring to " Gunahon ke Devta" . I remember reading something of that sort in that Ashish AT of SKR. Coming to Maya yes she has to lose, that's why I said VM coming to Maya's house is good 😆😆. Acha Shagun hai for the reverse journey to start. And I agree to you, that part of Maya redemption will be hard to watch if it goes as I feel, but I would say it is needed. Needed very much.
What I understood from yesterday epi is Maya is sensitive to words. Her provocation comes through words. And it is understandable because Ashwin had assaulted her using words. More than vision , words haunt her and she reacts. Whenever someone accuses her bad and mad beyond a point she reacts. It happened with Saanjh in court, it happened with Suman in court. To me it is what happened with Ayan also. Remember his flithy dialogues that kick was her reaction to those words. But when Samay came she cannot be bad and mad, so Ayan is made bad. Nazar aur niyath ka farakh. Difference of vision and intend. People believe in vision, not in intend. I believe Maya did something in childhood, but Ashwin presented it in a different way. She is doing the funda exactly like that. What Maya did in childhood was reaction to what Ashwin did to her, but the vision Ashwin created was not what she intended. And he won or so she thinks. Hence she creates that vision for Ayan. Yes that is the way to her real victory to understand creation of vision doesnt mean the vision exists. Only if you accept that vision, that vision becomes reality.
Unfortunately child Maya accepted that vision created by Ashwin as her actions prove. Words affect Maya. She defines intend in words without understand words without your acceptance are hollow in themselves.

Her case is deep psychological damage because of emotional abuse more than physical abuse. She was a victim of emotional abuse by Ashwin and I feel some extend by Jhanvi

@Rendev even I am surprised why Arjun didnt take her to the doctor. Saanjh I feel has guessed Maya has problem with words. I am not sure whether she tried to provoke her with her dialogues of you will be alone.

@sumz what Maya said is a fact. If people dont accept you, dont try to get acceptance. But the point is she is desperately trying to fit in.

True but with exceptions!
And the exceptions are Arjun & Jhanvi! She does not allow them a choice to accept or reject!
By the way, her true friend is also excluded in her select list of persons that she need! Otherwise, how could she throw Him into lake, because He denied her that little happiness of a child coming in her life! She did not think of reasoning with Him unlike earlier times!
And that is what turning her into evil now, if not, she is already!
Her conscience has gone down into the water along with Ganesh JI!

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Laska

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Posted: 8 years ago

#413

shruthiravi, if the Maya baby was capable of murder, then we would have already lost count in the counting of corpses😆😆😆

Remember, Arjun said "I would have hit not in leg, but in the stomach"

Yes, if Maya baby was capable of killing, she would not hit in the leg. A much better option is the chest. Ideally - the neck. One hit and Maya babe could be free for life. But no

I don't know what Ashwin wanted frame Maya. But Jhanvi there said that it was her mistake and fault

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sunithi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#414

Shruthi di what do u meant by VM cmg here implies Maya loss?..

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#415

See what confuses me is why that pandit and photographer specifically. There were enough people in her office who bad mouth her in her absence. She fires them, have not murdered any one of them. Then there was some guy who took the design from her company and sold. He is also spared 😆😆

Even if I take Ashwin was spared for Jhanvi and VM and Saanjh for Arjun, still it doesnt add up. And that inspector who did so much of hungama. He is also spared. So what is about pandit and photographer to kill them. Aisa kya tha? Some correlation has to be there.

Also both incidents didnt happen on the fly, while Maya's reactions seem to be quite on the moment and impulsive

Somewhere it is not adding up

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Fernandes43

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Posted: 8 years ago

#416

Originally posted by: Laska
shruthiravi, if the Maya baby was capable of murder, then we would have already lost count in the counting of corpses😆😆😆
Remember, Arjun said "I would have hit not in leg, but in the stomach"
Yes, if Maya baby was capable of killing, she would not hit in the leg. A much better option is the chest. Ideally - the neck. One hit and Maya babe could be free for life. But no
I don't know what Ashwin wanted frame Maya. But Jhanvi there said that it was her mistake and fault

Maya has revealed her mind what she is capable of !
Her passing thoughts on Saanjh in the court room is a case in point! She has the audacity to shoot Saanjh down- at least in her dreams!
She actually used a Gun to threaten Samay, before kicking him into trunk of car!
The infamous incident of gold fishes (thanks to Samay they did not die!) another example of her perverted mind!
And how many times she brandished a knife as if she is using it as a cook-ware!
Her intentions are out in the open! Only thing is no one is able to tie the loose ends including the so called inspector!
By the way, is the inspector guy sacked for his inability to solve the murder mystery? He is not to be seen for a long time!

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#417

@sunithi what is Vandana history. She was a nurse who came to take care of a terminally ill patient or so it is implied and became the mistress of the house. In short if you have to tell the one who was the beggar in front of Mahalakshmi temple became the priest of the temple.

Now that house is Maya's and she is coming there as a patient and Maya is the care taker. If the perception of Arjun was false nothing should happen. patient remains patient, care taker remains care taker

But if the perception of the 6 year old Arjun Sharma is true, VM will obviously take whatever rightfully belongs to Maya also. That apartment, the wealth everything is Maya's, it is her inherited property and whatever she had made through her work in Fashion and City. But then VM will make Maya a beggar in front of Mahalakshmi temple while she become the priest and will justify that also. But Maya needs that loss so that she can fight her demons.

It doesnt matter which role you are, your true nature will come out through the mess. So this part is the test whether there was any truth in the perception of 6 year old Arjun or not.

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sunithi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#418

flawless analysis..Let's see how VM takes away everything from Maya..I don't mind VM taking away as far it's good for Maya in future..

Is that mean Jhanvi will be gone forever or going with them??If guess samay is the murderer,then high chances he will kill Jhanvi once she sees him...If she is not there,who will be able to tell the truth..

Ashwin and the murderer might be the peoples who know the full truth not even Jhanvi and Maya..

I ve a doubt reg.jhanvi,is Jhanvi aware of all of Maya manipulation..In season1,Jhanvi also got manipulated by Maya and ashwin,it means she also has half knowledge..Even in this Ayan case,she didn't see but jux heard..9year Maya truth she might be aware but after that I am not sure she knows the full truth or not..

Maya can't be the killer of ashwin,she would ve not left him alive to come to mandap to interrupt the wedding..The person who is the killer wants Arya to get separated either by breaking trust or put the blame on Arjun and wants maya happiness and Maya for himself..

About pandit Maya might ve went on to threaten the pandit,killer would be killed him not to reveal his identity..Vikram murder or accident can be easily framed on Arjun as he beaten him up..But that track didn't happen only..

Take of criminal and lawyer in handcuff goes well with all the murders saanj and samay..

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Laska

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Posted: 8 years ago

#419

@shruthiravi, it's just not Maya. But someone who is connected with Maya. Maya's shadow

I think the reasons why VM, Dusky are alive Ashvin, Jhanvi are just like that. But a few from a different perspective😊

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640117

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Posted: 8 years ago

#420

Omg lol. So I have been watching some old episodes of beyhadh these days to see those beautiful Maya/ArYa scenes again. And what I noticed was when Arjun comes all the way on pipe to make Maya sign those papers and goes all the way down from pipe again due to Maya's order, Jhanvi meets Arjun for the first time in that scene. Seing how Arjun made her sign papers and went down from pipe again Jhanvi says in her monologue about Arjun, "She needs to meet this one who has the strengh of taking away Maya's sorrows and has the strength to deal with her stubborn personality."

Then in the next episode Vandana tells Ayaan to talk to Arjun about Saanjh else she will marry someone else. Ayaan doesn't take it seriously, so Vandana gets annoyed and says it's not funny. She says, "you don't know your brother and how difficult it's to deal with him. Only Saanjh was helping her to deal with him. If she goes too, what will happen then." So she says, " He should get a HUNTER type, only then he will truly come on line. "

Lol such dialogues from both Arjun and Maya's mothers' were forshadowing so much into the future which we are seeing now in ArYa's relationship and will see. Arjun truly got a hunter wife to deal with him and knows how to deal with him. 😆Maya did get someone who can take all her stubborn personality and still love her and know how to. I think he will take away her sorrows too. Maya also ate the medicine Arjun gave in the beginning of the episodes.

Also, I noticed Maya had actually put cameras in her house in all the rooms, living room, etc in the first month episodes of the show. She would come home from office and then check her house to see everything through cameras. So her putting cctv cameras in her houses everywhere isn't something new of hers and something she did after s2 on just arjun. But rather she always had done that from the beginning of the show. Another thing I noticed she begs Jhanvi to not go with Ashwin. She keeps telling her how Ashwin is bad, When Jhanvi doesn't listen, Maya gets so angry and forcefully takes Jhanvi to the room to protect her and then lock her in the room her taking the keys away with her. Lol, it reminded me how she took Arjun the same way to the room and locked the room while taking the keys with her.

It's funny how all those scenes, monologues, etc are playing now. Jhanvi's desperate attempt to go back to Ashwin and being delusional to think he still loves her matches Maya's condition so much. Seeing those episodes to see how Jhanvi was being so much blindly in love, it reminds one so much of the Maya we see now in the show. Maya has truely got a little bit of both of her parents' personalities. She got all the extreme love to the point of being delusional from Jhanvi yet still not being doormat and taking away abuse like Jhanvi. Then she got manipulations and how to twist everything from Ashwin yet again not taking complete evilness from him. So she didn't get full of their traits, but she got a bit of both and mixture of both.

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