Dance of Time and Illusion ( Episode Analysis)Part 30updated DTNTPg131

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Posted: 8 years ago

#421

Dusky didn't imagine that she would push off ladder Maya. Dusky came and push off ladder Maya

VM didn't imagine that she would rush to kill Maya with a knife. VM came and rushed to kill Maya with a knife

Maya imagined that she would kill Dusky. Maya didn't anything

Dusky and VM aren't capable to kill, and Maya is capable to kill

Logic die!😆😆😆

@sunithi, exactly. The killer is smart and sly. While his plans didn't give him the desired result. But the killer is also very patient. And on his street there should be a holiday, he should receive the desired

What will it bring? For all?

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#422

@Darling I guess I had told in one of the earlier episodes in a way Arjun needs Maya and Maya needs Arjun. Because Arjun's negative side Maya can temper and her negative side he can temper. Ideally hus-wife relation should be that. You manage the negative side of the other, not completely eliminating it. Problem with Arjun-Maya currently is that, they are not understanding if they accept something from other it will be better for both. Actually Arjun and Maya can be good hus-wife if they can sit, talk and try to understand than blindly control.

That Pandit telling Maya will love Arjun truly and their match was supposed to happen is also true. Because it is beneficial for them, if only VM had not started Kala Saaya , Kaala Saaya funda.

Maya is a mix of her parents and Arjun also has to be mix of his parents. Problem is we dont know what his parents traits were as both of them are not there.

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CutiepieAD

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Posted: 8 years ago

#423

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
@aditi which show of Ashish you are referring to " Gunahon ke Devta" . I remember reading something of that sort in that Ashish AT of SKR. Coming to Maya yes she has to lose, that's why I said VM coming to Maya's house is good 😆😆. Acha Shagun hai for the reverse journey to start. And I agree to you, that part of Maya redemption will be hard to watch if it goes as I feel, but I would say it is needed. Needed very much.
What I understood from yesterday epi is Maya is sensitive to words. Her provocation comes through words. And it is understandable because Ashwin had assaulted her using words. More than vision , words haunt her and she reacts. Whenever someone accuses her bad and mad beyond a point she reacts. It happened with Saanjh in court, it happened with Suman in court. To me it is what happened with Ayan also. Remember his flithy dialogues that kick was her reaction to those words. But when Samay came she cannot be bad and mad, so Ayan is made bad. Nazar aur niyath ka farakh. Difference of vision and intend. People believe in vision, not in intend. I believe Maya did something in childhood, but Ashwin presented it in a different way. She is doing the funda exactly like that. What Maya did in childhood was reaction to what Ashwin did to her, but the vision Ashwin created was not what she intended. And he won or so she thinks. Hence she creates that vision for Ayan. Yes that is the way to her real victory to understand creation of vision doesnt mean the vision exists. Only if you accept that vision, that vision becomes reality.
Unfortunately child Maya accepted that vision created by Ashwin as her actions prove. Words affect Maya. She defines intend in words without understand words without your acceptance are hollow in themselves.

Her case is deep psychological damage because of emotional abuse more than physical abuse. She was a victim of emotional abuse by Ashwin and I feel some extend by Jhanvi

No Shruthi di not GKD 😆😆 that's based on Othello.. it was also tragic ending but wasn't referring to that.

I have 2 shows in mind. One is love triangle. Rem once I had posted a gif nd u said look at these eyes n Ram's eyes 😆.. that character was more like Arjun in the beg, over ambitious, flamboyant.. but goes wrong in his ways.. He had a beautiful redemption/repentance track, very hard-hitting but loved to watch it. He got punished for whatever he did but at the end love won over money/obsession etc. But he dies at the end ... There the other 2 leads were such big hypocrits but had to bear them😆 n after bearing them I have nothing against Saanjh😊😆

Another is Saubhagyavati bhava (Karanveer n Srithi) n I hope beyhadh should never go in that way. There ML was supposedly a victim of child abuse (don't remember properly) as he grew up, he used those tactics on his wife. He had OCPD. He was highly possessive, had put CCTV cams, microphones all over. And if his wife looked at someone else then abused her🤢 He didn't murder anyon but I couldn't sympathise with him towards the end as he didn't redeem neither he died, it was all evils winning all the time.. Finally was put to jail.

Shruthi di I think Maya has split personality. Her alter ego knows that she's trapping Ayaan, but her real self that is child Maya who was abused by her father can't take Ayaan's physical assault n hence she gets those FB'S.

The way they keep saying "only Maya can come btw ArYa, Maya has to saved from Maya" I feel they refer to her alter ego which is hell bent in taking revenge from Ashwin n hence she prevents herself to be called mad n bad n what Ashwin did to her, she wants to do that to others. As u said Ayaan was made mad n bad.

It's the work of alter ego imo. For her to redeem, this alter ego has to die. For that as u said Vandana coming to her n Saanjh manipulating n bringing out her truth (abt Ayaan ) will make her understand that everytime the Ashwin in her can't win.

After that Arjun's reaction needs to be seen. If he leaves her then she'll go in the path of destruction. But if Arjun chooses to stay with her (I guess he will, to protect his family from Maya's wrath, mahaan u see😆😆). So Maya's perception abt Arjun will change n slowly true love will take over her obsession. And then she might ask to free Arjun on her own. Maybe that's when Maya gets pregnant. And equations change. And this time Arjun truly comes back to her with his own wish. But then Saanjh will bring out Maya ka Sach to separate Arya (she might get to know abt first fake pregnancy so think this one I is also fake to trap Arjun) nArjun's secrets comes out in front of Maya, Jhanvi angle will also play out, these will happen all together I guess. If ArYa survive this phase then true love will win. Or it could be completely dark end as u wrote.. As it was never promoted as love story but a dark thriller.

Another thing can be Arjun leaves her, but then Samay comes to her. He will go beyhadh for her. Or maybe after Arjun goes Maya is left alone with her baby n goes back to her Ganesha...

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#424

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
@Darling I guess I had told in one of the earlier episodes in a way Arjun needs Maya and Maya needs Arjun. Because Arjun's negative side Maya can temper and her negative side he can temper. Ideally hus-wife relation should be that. You manage the negative side of the other, not completely eliminating it. Problem with Arjun-Maya currently is that, they are not understanding if they accept something from other it will be better for both. Actually Arjun and Maya can be good hus-wife if they can sit, talk and try to understand than blindly control.
That Pandit telling Maya will love Arjun truly and their match was supposed to happen is also true. Because it is beneficial for them, if only VM had not started Kala Saaya , Kaala Saaya funda.

Maya is a mix of her parents and Arjun also has to be mix of his parents. Problem is we dont know what his parents traits were as both of them are not there.

Exactly. They are not communicating their problems with other other and understanding each other properly. Even most of their conversations aren't like normal couples if we notice in the show. Maya can tell him her insecurities and fears, and he can tell her how lonely he feels. Actually even if Maya did three years back, he would have just made fun of it or something as he's always shallow and dumb. But now after 3 years, I see Arjun has become more mature or at least know her problems except that he is still not fixing her problems in correct way. So if now Maya tells him, I don't think he will atleast make fun of her or dimiss it even if he doesn't agree with her since now he knows to what extent she can go and how she's. They both love each other, and if they talk with each other calmly, they can solve their issues or at least try to. Right now they both know each other issues. Arjun now knows that Maya feels insecure from saanjh and feels saanjh will take him or he will just go to her. He found this after 3 years, but he was still dealing with it in wrong by driving her to suicide and keep telling her how much he hates her, etc during these years. She was putting cameras and everything because of her fear that he will cheat on her since in her mind he's too innocent and he will go the wrong way under the world's influence. In the ambulance she didn't care about him meeting family. Instead, she was scared he met saanjh. When it comes to his family, she doesn't mind them as long as she knows they don't have the intention to separate him from her. Vandana already showed from the beginning that she wanted to separate them, so now she doesn't let him be with his family either.

Maya knows he feels lonely because before s2 she was still trying her best to make everything right between Arjun and Vandana for the sake of his happiness after they left the house too. But after that garbage thing happened and realizing vandana just want to separate them, now she doesn't care about him being with him family anymore and think she alone should be enough. Both right now are just controlling and damaging the situation. Well, Arjun actually is behaving okay for now but that only happened after that rape attempt. But for these three years, he too was behaving wrong. Maya is still wrong and doesn't want to see his pain atm. She has just given up on Vandana after trying her best to make her accept her the last time. I wonder when they will actually solve their issues in correct way.

Yes we don't know anything about Arjun's parents. I wonder if Cvs will even show them from past or anything about them at all.

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#425

@aditi Maya is aware of her alter ego. In some cases you are not. Like in Bhool Bhulaiyya. Here she knows, most importantly it can be managed. She managed it herself in court and there are many occasions she had managed it without it going violent. My problem is if Arjun was aware of this condition why didnt he take her to doctor for past 3 years. Maya goes with him. Maya listens to him if he tells in a loving way. I just want that Ganesha to be back. Everyone else is coming back, most importantly Saanjh. Maya cannot deal with Saanjh without Ganesha. And I know why he is not there is because Maya has to fail, only then she will hear Ganesha's voice.

See in Sawbhyagyavati Bhava or Ek Hasina thi the villians were pure negative. But I cannot hate Maya the way I used to hate Shaurya and Sakshi 😆😆. Sakshi it was admiration for the character, Maya I empathize and most importantly I dont feel anything about Saanjh except irritation at most times 😆😆. And for Aneri I think short dresses are not looking good. If she has to be pretty, girly and modern better she goes for long skirts or skirts atleast below knees. Because short dress it has to look good on you and you need to carry it well also and I feel Aneri is failing in both area.

@Darling why they are not talking like normal couple that's because their need in marriage was not love. For Maya it was security and for Arjun beautiful lass with luxury life.

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#426

Originally posted by: Laska
Dusky didn't imagine that she would push off ladder Maya. Dusky came and push off ladder Maya
VM didn't imagine that she would rush to kill Maya with a knife. VM came and rushed to kill Maya with a knife
Maya imagined that she would kill Dusky. Maya didn't anything
Dusky and VM aren't capable to kill, and Maya is capable to kill
Logic die!😆😆😆

@sunithi, exactly. The killer is smart and sly. While his plans didn't give him the desired result. But the killer is also very patient. And on his street there should be a holiday, he should receive the desired
What will it bring? For all?

I agree with you. 😆

Also, I actually noticed Vandana didn't come with the intention of murdering Maya. She actually came with the intention of murdering Arjun. Yes Arjun. I wonder if many here noticed that because I didn't see anyone mentioning she actually went to murder arjun. That was so shocking to watch. Her intending to murder Arjun is even more low than her trying to murder Maya as she keeps claiming she loves Arjun as real son. 😲

VM comes home after hearing saanjh won't help her. But instead of getting angry at Saanjh or even a bit disappointed and sad over her selfish decision, in FBs she remembers Arjun telling saanjh she can keep bailing Ayaan out but he will keep making sure he stays in jail. So she instead gets angry at Arjun and takes the knife to go kill him. Just as when she is thinking to murder him, she again remembers in FB how Arjun had come to meet her and had apologized to her before the rape attempt. So she again realized or feels her love for Arjun. She changes her mind and drops the knife. She instead begs him. But once Maya comes, she then thinks maya is the actual root cause of all conflicts and goes to murder her.

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#427

@Darling this is the beauty of the dance of time and illusion. Because when the dance breaks we will know whether everyone stands by their claims.

Vandana- I married Mr Sharma for Arjun

Saanjh- I am only Arjun's friend, no intention of breaking Maya

See where these 2 characters stand is very much important for the story.

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sunithi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#428

But I want to know where Maya baby will stand..I am scared for Arya baby..I want that white Ganesha to be back,I love everything about Maya..Will Maya back to white??Will she get scared of Ayan???

This dance is so poised but very scary...

Beauty of beyhadh,any point in retrovert v can connect whats happening now..

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CutiepieAD

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Posted: 8 years ago

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Originally posted by: shruthiravi
@aditi Maya is aware of her alter ego. In some cases you are not. Like in Bhool Bhulaiyya. Here she knows, most importantly it can be managed. She managed it herself in court and there are many occasions she had managed it without it going violent. My problem is if Arjun was aware of this condition why didnt he take her to doctor for past 3 years. Maya goes with him. Maya listens to him if he tells in a loving way. I just want that Ganesha to be back. Everyone else is coming back, most importantly Saanjh. Maya cannot deal with Saanjh without Ganesha. And I know why he is not there is because Maya has to fail, only then she will hear Ganesha's voice.
See in Sawbhyagyavati Bhava or Ek Hasina thi the villians were pure negative. But I cannot hate Maya the way I used to hate Shaurya and Sakshi 😆😆. Sakshi it was admiration for the character, Maya I empathize and most importantly I dont feel anything about Saanjh except irritation at most times 😆😆. And for Aneri I think short dresses are not looking good. If she has to be pretty, girly and modern better she goes for long skirts or skirts atleast below knees. Because short dress it has to look good on you and you need to carry it well also and I feel Aneri is failing in both area.

@Darling why they are not talking like normal couple that's because their need in marriage was not love. For Maya it was security and for Arjun beautiful lass with luxury life.

Viraj was definitely a black n Shaurya n Sakshi too. That's why I don't comp Maya to them. I compare to the love triangle's character .. he was very wrong but u can't hate him. 😆😆

Also it's due to the hypocritical white characters around these two, which makes the grey one look better 😆😆 n of course the way the actor playing it.😊

Aneri is quite descent as an actress imo. I am liking her hairstyle but as u said she is unable to carry short dress.

Saanjh's character doesn't have a growth. Her problem is she's not righteous, but she's self righteous. It's with all the FLs of tv. They feel they r always right, mahaan. But at the same time she doesn't deserve to be bashed as well.

Like all shows have a mahaan FL. This show has a mahaan parallel lead. And FL is grey.

Sometimes I feel a part of credit of my liking to Maya has to be given to the way Vandana, Arjun , Saanjh, Jhanvi characters have been written 😆😆

Actually in this show except Maya , no character is well written.. Samay is a mystery..

Arjun not taking Maya to psychiatrist is a writing flaw imo.. but can have a story too... I could be wrong. But Vandana's past I highly doubt that she has some story.

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#430

@aditi if the show is able to run the course I believe it will be as considering the rating of Sony shows Beyhadh is always in top 3 fiction shows as far as TRP rating goes, every character should have a past. Because if you check one incident then it is linear, but as layers go by you get a different picture.

If you look EHT when it started it was linear. Some drunkards had gang raped a innocent girl who is the daughter of their driver. Then comes another facet Nithya slapped Shaurya and rape was revenge. When Dev enters another funda comes in Payal changed the statement in court, that it was not rape but consensual relation. Then it gives more credibility to Durga's action and Dev's dilemma. Because now if you have to prove rape in court Shaurya himself has to confess, if Dev has to take Nithya's side his instinct is not enough, he needs proper proofs to convince his mother and question his family. Dev cannot simply go and question his family as he is protagonist. Then we are taken to Sakshi and Rajnath FBs etc..actually I had expected more for Dev's father and mom FBs but then EHT was cut short due to TRPs .

Our actions are results of our perceptions of past. Whatever that appear linear need not be that linear. So ideally past has to be exposed across. It need not be dramatic but it can be better than the sob story Vandana tells 😆😆

Problem with Saanjh is that her tedha actions lack credibility and at this point I dont know how to explain it also 😆😆

Edited by shruthiravi - 8 years ago