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sunithi

@sunithi

Voyager

Posted: 8 years ago

#431

V see the characters diffrently our opinion will never match,it's fine then..i jux read few post,felt really bad the way it sounded...i also ve a option to skip and read whichever post I like...will do that..

My point is very simple,when v see the character differently,our arguments not gonna yield any results .what's the purpose of argument or debate,when v can't or r not gonna change our perspective..it's jux never ends and will hurt some1 or other1 and negativity everywhere..

Anyways I am ending here...not at all intended to hurt any1 and I jux requested..

Edited by sunithi - 8 years ago

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Laska

@Laska

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Posted: 8 years ago

#432

@sunithi, it is rather a reflection, a projection of the past into the future, or vice versa, the projection of the present into the past

This is more a game of time

As those or other situations unfold after a while, as those or other feelings, emotions, attitudes, actions are transformed

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Laska

@Laska

Navigator

Posted: 8 years ago

#433

24/05/17

The variable catch the chance. Although the chance is an accident, but here

"Accept defeat, open your eyes. You aren't used to losing. Then why do you take his defeat every time? How many more chances do you give him?" Interestingly, Samay all counted? Tell me how many of them already, Samay?

Samay pulls out a "foothold" ... "He's not worthy of you. He's a liar. He doesn't see your tears. He doesn't deserve you"

Accept this mistake. All make mistake. You made a mistake

But who survives has no luxury of defeat, defeat is death... Aut vincere, aut mori

And ... Photo to shreds. The lost war. Mistake. Meaningless struggle

Samaya gets a fork (such smooth wounds, a fork is excellent, works better than a knife😆)

"He still didn't come, even for you didn't come. This world is very bad"

"This world is so strange, people cry for those who have left, and quarrel with those who are alive. Mother can do everything for her child"

These swings ... Forward, back ... The point of support somewhere above, under the ceiling. A person at this time between the past and the future... Between...

And what a beautiful scene with Jhanvi! Today, I'm delighted with this damn alarm clock. Jhanvi frightened and pressed the button. Carefully take the stroller along the long corridor, Jhanvi presses the button. What do you want to say, Jhanvi? Fearfully? Do you want an answer to any question? About something you ask? She doesn't hear you... The girl who saved you all her life, risked her life for you, lost her childhood because of you, endured all the pain, asked not to punish you for her mistakes... Today she doesn't hear you ... She's dead! Or almost dead...

A corridor like road. The child like doll. Words aren't heard

"This world is so strange"...

Dusky wants to jump off the roof. Really? Although, come on. Forward! Jump off the roof. Give your mother and younger brother another funeral. Show again your selfishness!

Arjun was 6! He lost both his mother and father for two years. He was left alone with some aunt, who killed his mother, brother and promise, to take care of this aunt and brother. And this boy lived! How could Dusky be able to reconcile the relationship between Vandana and Duffer if she didn't understand anything? Nothing at all!

The girl was beaten by her father. Mother allowed to do this all her life. Again and again opened the door to the monster and let come in a little life. And this girl lived! Survived!

You don't know anything about life, Dusky. You don't know anything about the pain, Dusky

Welcome to the world of pain. Into a world without light. In a world of despair. Into the world of darkness

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

Stunner

+ 2

Posted: 8 years ago

#434

Yes Laska that scene with Jhanvi was too good. The sound Maya doesnt hear, just like Jhanvi didnt hear the shouts of the child. That child is gone, it is gone. There is no point holding on to it.

Yes Dusky wants to think about the one who is gone, not the ones who are alive, who needs her, her mother, her brother.

And yes she tells what Arjun thinks is the perception of 6 year old. She calls Maya giri hui aurat without even understanding what child Maya went through.

Arjun had lived, Maya has survived. Dusky want to die. Welcome to the world of real life Dusky, where you have to fight it out and you dont have a fall back option.

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tanvismile

@tanvismile

Sparkler

+ 3

Posted: 8 years ago

#435

Originally posted by: sunithi
V see the characters diffrently our opinion will never match,it's fine then..i jux read few post,felt really bad the way it sounded...i also ve a option to skip and read whichever post I like...will do that..
My point is very simple,when v see the character differently,our arguments not gonna yield any results .what's the purpose of argument or debate,when v can't or r not gonna change our perspective..it's jux never ends and will hurt some1 or other1 and negativity everywhere..

Anyways I am ending here...not at all intended to hurt any1 and I jux requested..

Even if u see a character differently then also there a Base or parameter by which u judge a character. How does a person who is criminal become an innocent in this post?

Maya was grey before the leap and some people supported her even when she was wrong but maya in season 2 is not less then a criminal. So how can people still support her?

If one want to still support maya then they have to provide reasons for supporting her or else they will called blind fans.

Nobody likes being called blind fans and u will say we don't respect ur views. Then provide valid reasons for supporting the character.

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441597

Suspended

Posted: 8 years ago

#436

There is a limit to subjectivity.

I cannot support a rapist and call it 'merely a different perspective'.

I cannot straight up ignore the mass murders of a serial killer and term it a 'difference in paradigm of viewing'.

Maya's character can be judged in not one but a 1000 different lights, but all perspectives in the world cannot make one believe that her deeds are not cold-blooded crimes worthy of punishment.

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

Stunner

+ 2

Posted: 8 years ago

#437

@tanvi Laska has her own reasons for supporting Maya, because she defines crime more in the emotional plane and you define crime more in the physical plane.

Actually both are crimes. Emotional crime is not seen, physical crime is seen can be punished in IPC.

Maya punishes others with physical crime, where she has been a victim of emotional crime.

Just like a physical wound that needs medicine, emotional scars also needs medicine. You see the physical wound, you care for the wound and protect it from not festering or causing infection. If to save your life if your arm or leg has to be cut, that will be cut.

To heal emotional scar just like cutting organs, you have to let go of toxic relations than hold onto them.

Unlike physical scar, you dont see emotional scar, if not guided rightly you dont even know the motivation of your actions. A sensible person would have long ago left Jhanvi to her means and would not have bothered about a man called Arjun who has a very toxic friendship with Saanjh.

Insane Maya is holding onto things, thinking they will love her and she can be happy. Largest perception of her life, which takes her from manipulation to crime( crime physical in nature).

She tries to change situation repeats as others dont want her to live cutting open her emotional wounds with their words, actions. The punishment for those words and action is not in IPC. But that doesnt mean they are not crimes. They are also crimes, not mistakes.

But then people who doesnt want to look at emotional crimes how can she explain her POV. She cannot. If you call a person ignoring physical crime as blind fan, the ppl ignoring emotional crimes are also blind fans.

So one set cannot understand the other.

Laska might be supporting bad and mad Maya completely, as she is affected more by emotional crime, but after reading her writing for long I can clearly tell she is not a hypocrite. She stands with her judgement. She does that in her thread. She doesnt go out and tell anyone else how to analyze, nor do she make comments telling this person told this and that person told that in any other thread or even in this thread. She doesnt hold any moral high ground and go to other thread and tell this analysis is unbelievable.

So if you are uncomfortable with her perspective there is no need to read as I dont feel she should give any justification for her perspective as long as her language is sane, she doesnt mock others, or harass or challenge others

Last but not the least the arrow send from the bow and a harsh word fallen from the mouth can hurt or kill. First one does it instantly, second one takes it own sweet time. You see the arrow send from the bow, she sees the words fallen from the mouth. So one cannot understand the other view point.

Edited by shruthiravi - 8 years ago

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441597

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Posted: 8 years ago

#438

Shruti, an emotional crime, to me, is no less than a physical one.

However, one needs to analyse and measure the weight of the two in case of Maya.

All the emotional 'crimes' committed against Maya by Saanjh, Vandana and Arjun are dwarfed by the physical AND emotional crimes that she chose to inflict upon them.

Saanjh's crime, for instance, was to try to kiss Arjun once in the restaurant. Maya's response was to try and ruin Saanjh's life completely by planting a psycho in her life.

Her false rape allegation against Ayan was a crime that was beyond any definition or classification. It was emotional, physical, mental and a thousand more types of torture.

Does the word 'proportion' mean anything here? One needs to wonder.

Edited by krystal_watz - 8 years ago

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

Stunner

+ 2

Posted: 8 years ago

#439

@krystal to know the extend of emotional crime Maya has suffered you need to go to her childhood. That's the root. What changed the 9 year old girl. She is like this from that 9th birthday. What happened on 9th birthday is the key to what Maya is. If i am right I feel Maya stabbed Ashwin on her 9th birthday only.

The wound inflicted on her 9th birthday is not closed. It has festered. In an already festered infected wound, Vandana rubbed the salt, because it was fine for her to judge Maya only based on what Ashwin said, Saanjh added Mirchi with her calling Arjun, hugging Arjun and putting colors on Arjun.

What Arjun did to make those wounds bleed is yet to be seen. The wound happened in 9th birthday. That's the source. It is not healed. No one has tried to understand that wound, making their judgement on the information they have. So she bled and with that she bled others also.

That's why i told, she is a risk to herself and others, most importantly she is the biggest risk to the child in her womb.

To atleast save that innocent life, the child in her womb someone has to find the source, for that someone has to know what life is.

My hope is in Saanjh because she is the one who has told yes case can be won because of the birthday while her boss tells it is a lost cause.

Maya has 2 birthdates. Her life is also like that, her life before 9th birthday and her life after 9th birthday. Someone has to erase that 9th birthday and her bad experiences before that. Someone has to bring her confidence on how she has dealt with Ashwin and set up a company Fashion and City.

That past has to be recreated. To save the baby atleast in Maya's womb her 9th birthday has to be recreated.