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Posted: 8 years ago
1. It has been shown that Maya framed Ayan. She got Samay to kiss and bite her, and plant Ayan's saliva.

(Yet you deny that she has framed. I seriously want to know what the word 'framed' means to you. Define 'framing' please. 😛)


2. It has been shown and proved that Ayan did not attempt to rape Maya. Maya's own flashbacks showed that she hid the keys in her blouse, which Ayan was trying to get.

(Yet you deny this fact which has been PROVED by none other than Maya herself. You say, 'Ayan is sitting on the correct charge'. Please explain how trying to get keys is the same as 'attempt to rape'? Ayan can be charged with physical assault, but attempt to rape? HOW is that the 'correct charge', please explain. )


3. It has been shown that Maya made Vandana bleed.

(You say that the scene was 'illogical', but a lot of things shown in the show was illogical, like Maya's so-called miscarriage where she did not bleed and lifted up a heavy Ganapati statue.So that cannot be excuse to deny Maya's sadistic behaviour. According to your logic, Maya did not suffer miscarriage too)


4. It has been shown that Maya planted Samay in Saanjh's life. Samay himself said that.

(Yet you still ask for proof)


See what you do? You simply IGNORE or DENY what's being shown in the show, and make up your own alternate version of Beyhadh.

Edited by krystal_watz - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
This is exactly what you do, Laska. You ignore facts shown in the show and just refuse to 'accept' them. You just dismiss all actions of Maya and focus only on the actions of Saanjh, Vandana and Arjun.
When asked about Maya's actions, you either say, 'Others forced her to do it', or you say 'Oh it was silly on the Creatives' part'.

You never find anything wrong with Maya's actions. In fact, in your write-ups, Maya's crimes are pretty much invisible to you.





Edited by krystal_watz - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
@manya_roy, thank you. Yes, in this show, the symbolism is very strong. And it manifests itself in scenes, in dialogues
Now this disappointment has spread to Samay. I had higher expectations associated with him. I wanted Samay to turn this equation over so that everyone would be variable. I wanted a double game. Serious double play. For Samay to change roles. Turned everything upside down. But in the current circumstances it seems extremely unlikely. I'm trying to keep a miserable hope, but it's honestly inexorably melting

@sunithi, thank you😊

@poppinss, thank you. Exactly. I can explain my point of view if it makes sense. If I am accused, judged, sentenced, it simply doesn't make sense at first. The exchange of opinions is fine, but the accusations, judgments and court hearing on heaven knows what aren't an exchange of views

@shruthiravi, in the fact that Dusky will success in this, I had no doubt. I wonder if the result will be true or illusion
Behind her cloak Dusky hides a lot. And every time she projects it all on Maya. Whether it's friendship, lies, love, jealousy, obsession, mask, her own benefit in helping, guilt. Dusky accused Maya of everything that is possible

@anshvi, if you consider inciting, then Dusky openly incites Maya. The girl who is standing in front of her with gun, and to this girl with gun Dusky says that the weapon against her is at her own father Prem. Isn't this an incitement? And at this point, Prem doesn't even know what serious and dangerous games Dusky plays and dragged him
"Whom you will stop?" Dusky asks in the hospital. Dusky herself gave two options for answering this question. Samay or Prem. Why Dusky didn't say that she sent the video to Arjun? Let the bad&mad Maya get off her feet in an attempt to delete the video from Arjun's phone. And at this time, Dusky quietly downloads a video at home, where all her family and Prem are also safe
Why does Dusky hide Arjun? Why should Arjun get a video? Why from Arjun Maya should not be able to delete the video? (Maya just doesn't know that Arjun also received this video)
This is the choice of priority. The same choice of priority Dusky did when she went to the hospital. She didn't even know whether she received Samay or Prem video. She told Prem that she went to release Ayan, but she went in a different direction. Dusky went to pick up her Duffer
Coming to the photo, Dusky cut the photo to get her Duffer herself. To paste this photo into an album in which only Dusky and her Duffer live, in which Duffer loves her, not any Maya
Yes, the ring was a fake. But Dusky didn't know about it. Dusky threw out the real ring

@Fernandes43, Well now I'm also the Devil's Advocate😆 I like this children's game more and more😆 Thanks for the compliment😆 In my piggy bank replenishment😆 This is damn delight😆
Feeling that I'm in the sandbox on the child's playground😆

From the London days - prove it
Maya sent the message to Samay after Dusky came to the hospital. Again threaten. And again provoke
Maya message was written when Duffer went to sign documents for an extract from the hospital, and not when he was praying
A simple point. Prem doesn't know anything, Prem doesn't have anything - he's safe. Dusky sends a video of Prem - he is involved in this case, including the rest of the family, and at the moment on Prem starts to wander the target. Dusky tells bad&mad Maya baby with gun that she sent the video to Prem - the target is set directly to Prem. He is in danger. He is in serious danger. His life may not be threatened, or may be, and may be under mortal threat. At this point, Dusky put Prem on the map, she jeopardize Prem. Dusky did it consciously. The strength thanks to which Dusky could protect her father was with Dusky. And Dusky used this power twice for the wrong purpose. Twice she chose a toy over Prem, twice chose a toy over her family
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Posted: 8 years ago
22/05/17

Variable, why are you not like the variable at all? Sadly somehow...

Doctor Duffer Arjun Sharma or Sadist Doctor

"Now my love is not only for you, but for our unborn child" "Today you will see my love for our unborn child"
All prepared to look at Duffer's love for the unborn child
"Dusky needs me, Dusky is strong, but only I know. Only I can suppor Dusky. Dusky, Dusky, Dusky..."
Of course, Duffer must go. With this, no one argues. But there is one big but!
Change the focus! There's not only Dusky! There's a whole family. Say you have to support the family, not just Dusky. Say that Prem isn't a stranger to you either. Why do you put such strange thoughts into her head with such persistence?
And the child? And love for the child? And Maya? Only today she faint. Only today the doctor said that you must take care of her

"You wanted to be cured, let's start today"

In the water from the bridge with bound hands and feet, with a sack on her head, unable to swim. Swim out as you can. Get well. Survive, Maya baby

"I'm not asking permission, I'm talking the decision" - just wondering, but Duffer ever asked? Can't remember. "I don't love. Will be friends. I love. I hate. I love. Or I don't love" he always decided. Today he want this, tomorrow he want something else
He removes her hands. He's leaving. She is waiting
As Maya ran to the door, without looking. And in Samay's arms. She thinks that this is her husband. Samay enjoys the moment, and he seems to have no difference what name he was called
Present an illusion. Turn the time back. Change history and direction. Change roles. Make time and the illusion play by your rules
Empty expectations, they are so empty. Sigh

"You'll never leave Duffer, right?" - you completely disappoint me. Seriously, do you ask this question? You don't know the answer to it? And Maya said this answer. And not just once. If you don't know the answer to this question, then you don't know Maya at all, you will lose. Why did you come back? Why did you come out of the shadows if you don't have any plan? What do you do here?

Phase 2 "I didn't want to"... Phase 1 "It happened by chance"... "Accidents are not accidental"...

Jhanvi. No comments. Just take away damn button from her!

Returning to the medicine. There were two tablets. One Duffer dropped. He took the other one and left. Maya get pill. Two. Is this possible? Don't get and get. Lose and not lose
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Posted: 8 years ago
And btw Laska, I never accused you of anything. Simply put forward some facts from the show.
You denied facts shown in the show. That is what I questioned you on.

Answer my questions if you can. I've got them noted point by point. You're also welcome to ignore them like you ignore Maya's crimes, it's your choice.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Laska if Samay, Samay ko palat nahi denga then there is no story. If time doesnt win, then there is no story. That cut has to happen. Arjun and Maya has to separate. That symbolism of finger cutting was so strong.
Coming to Samay yesterday, did he really went. Did he really accept what Maya told him. He accepts or it looks as if he accepts. But then does he really accept. Woh apna khel khud khelta hai.

I felt that scene like Maya's inner voice telling her you were responsible for murder. But Maya pointing it at time, time did it. Which she has been always telling. And that time belongs to what happened for her 9th birthday.

But can that 9th birthday define all her life actions. How will she come out of that 9th birthday. That past has to be created. Samay, Samay ko palat dena hai.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Laska

@manya_roy, thank you. Yes, in this show, the symbolism is very strong. And it manifests itself in scenes, in dialogues

Now this disappointment has spread to Samay. I had higher expectations associated with him. I wanted Samay to turn this equation over so that everyone would be variable. I wanted a double game. Serious double play. For Samay to change roles. Turned everything upside down. But in the current circumstances it seems extremely unlikely. I'm trying to keep a miserable hope, but it's honestly inexorably melting

@sunithi, thank you😊

@poppinss, thank you. Exactly. I can explain my point of view if it makes sense. If I am accused, judged, sentenced, it simply doesn't make sense at first. The exchange of opinions is fine, but the accusations, judgments and court hearing on heaven knows what aren't an exchange of views

@shruthiravi, in the fact that Dusky will success in this, I had no doubt. I wonder if the result will be true or illusion
Behind her cloak Dusky hides a lot. And every time she projects it all on Maya. Whether it's friendship, lies, love, jealousy, obsession, mask, her own benefit in helping, guilt. Dusky accused Maya of everything that is possible

@anshvi, if you consider inciting, then Dusky openly incites Maya. The girl who is standing in front of her with gun, and to this girl with gun Dusky says that the weapon against her is at her own father Prem. Isn't this an incitement? And at this point, Prem doesn't even know what serious and dangerous games Dusky plays and dragged him
"Whom you will stop?" Dusky asks in the hospital. Dusky herself gave two options for answering this question. Samay or Prem. Why Dusky didn't say that she sent the video to Arjun? Let the bad&mad Maya get off her feet in an attempt to delete the video from Arjun's phone. And at this time, Dusky quietly downloads a video at home, where all her family and Prem are also safe
Why does Dusky hide Arjun? Why should Arjun get a video? Why from Arjun Maya should not be able to delete the video? (Maya just doesn't know that Arjun also received this video)
This is the choice of priority. The same choice of priority Dusky did when she went to the hospital. She didn't even know whether she received Samay or Prem video. She told Prem that she went to release Ayan, but she went in a different direction. Dusky went to pick up her Duffer
Coming to the photo, Dusky cut the photo to get her Duffer herself. To paste this photo into an album in which only Dusky and her Duffer live, in which Duffer loves her, not any Maya
Yes, the ring was a fake. But Dusky didn't know about it. Dusky threw out the real ring


@Fernandes43, Well now I'm also the Devil's Advocate😆 I like this children's game more and more😆 Thanks for the compliment😆 In my piggy bank replenishment😆 This is damn delight😆
Feeling that I'm in the sandbox on the child's playground😆

From the London days - prove it
Maya sent the message to Samay after Dusky came to the hospital. Again threaten. And again provoke
Maya message was written when Duffer went to sign documents for an extract from the hospital, and not when he was praying
A simple point. Prem doesn't know anything, Prem doesn't have anything - he's safe. Dusky sends a video of Prem - he is involved in this case, including the rest of the family, and at the moment on Prem starts to wander the target. Dusky tells bad&mad Maya baby with gun that she sent the video to Prem - the target is set directly to Prem. He is in danger. He is in serious danger. His life may not be threatened, or may be, and may be under mortal threat. At this point, Dusky put Prem on the map, she jeopardize Prem. Dusky did it consciously. The strength thanks to which Dusky could protect her father was with Dusky. And Dusky used this power twice for the wrong purpose. Twice she chose a toy over Prem, twice chose a toy over her family

Edited by anshvi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
@krystal_watz, so, I agreed with this. I'm blind. Jenny fan. Bad&mad. What I want, I deny. What I want, I accept

This is my home! My bad&mad home! In my blind bad&mad home such rules. Consider that I have a stony century. Bacchanalia. I don't care!

This isn't police station! There isn't court! You aren't a judge! And you aren't the truth in the last instance!

You are in my home! And you are behaving in an absolutely inappropriate way in my home!

I'm not going to talk to someone who does not know the rules of behavior in someone else's! home
I'm not going to explain anything to a person who has already drawn her conclusions and considers herself God on earth to judge other people

It's pointless, because person will not hear me. Because don't want to hear. You want to impose your opinion and send me to a psychiatric clinic. I hasten to disappoint you - they didn't accept me there! Shamelessly called a perfectly normal good sane person. I still hard suffer in this regard, and you exacerbate my traumatic moral psychological trauma

As a normal good sane person you should be ashamed

P.S. It's too late, I was fortunate enough to see your initial unedited post. And no, you didn't ask questions. You imposed your opinion. Each your post isn't a question or discussion, but an attack and a charge. You held the trial unilaterally. You delivered your sentence
A sentenced person has the right to a last word to try to justify himself or admit his crime. I didn't commit a crime (in fact - you rushed in my home) And I have nothing to justify myself
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Posted: 8 years ago
@laska krystal_watz post is just not her opinion but what is shown in episodes. What will u even justify! Why don't u accept the truth! She isn't attacking u but just wrote facts. U are arguing round and round saying I m bad and mad, this is not court, this is not police station. Why dont u just answer the points! U dint even find maya wrong when she hurted vandana so badly rather u were busy pinpointing vandana s faults.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: krystal_watz

1. It has been shown that Maya framed Ayan. She got Samay to kiss and bite her, and plant Ayan's saliva.

(Yet you deny that she has framed. I seriously want to know what the word 'framed' means to you. Define 'framing' please. 😛)


2. It has been shown and proved that Ayan did not attempt to rape Maya. Maya's own flashbacks showed that she hid the keys in her blouse, which Ayan was trying to get.

(Yet you deny this fact which has been PROVED by none other than Maya herself. You say, 'Ayan is sitting on the correct charge'. Please explain how trying to get keys is the same as 'attempt to rape'? Ayan can be charged with physical assault, but attempt to rape? HOW is that the 'correct charge', please explain. )


3. It has been shown that Maya made Vandana bleed.

(You say that the scene was 'illogical', but a lot of things shown in the show was illogical, like Maya's so-called miscarriage where she did not bleed and lifted up a heavy Ganapati statue.So that cannot be excuse to deny Maya's sadistic behaviour. According to your logic, Maya did not suffer miscarriage too)


4. It has been shown that Maya planted Samay in Saanjh's life. Samay himself said that.

(Yet you still ask for proof)


See what you do? You simply IGNORE or DENY what's being shown in the show, and make up your own alternate version of Beyhadh.



Laska, for the second time--any answers to this?

Also, stop assigning words to me. I never called you insane, bad&mad or anything else. I never called you a 'Jenny fan' either. So stop trying to play victim here.
Edited by krystal_watz - 8 years ago

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