The firewall between the light&the darkness.|10-14 Feb. - Page 4

Originally posted by: nimmu96

Brilliant as always, how much of an effort you have put in to explain each character of what they do and why they do. Hats off.

Originally posted by: .annihilation.

Originally posted by: FleetingWishes.

Reserved.

P.S. The things you do for lovee.
^^Stepping into this forum again. sighs.😆

HUSNA HUSNA HUSNA! ek toh tera naam itna haseen hai oopar se tere alfaaz bhi haseen hain
band karde haseen haseen topics banana.😳

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OMG THESE LINES CRACKED ME UP SO SO BAD! I was in splits.

munne ko parle-G biscuit dedo. jail mein toh yahi kaam ayenge.😆

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AHH THIS ^^^ These words, such incredibly penned analysis. This. is. gold. LIKE THESE LINES are why I love reading people's thoughts because you're left marveling at the gems they're, at how incredibly astute they're. this is so beautifully penned. Husna, I always love and nod at everything you write and you already know that. 😆 I won't last this show without you and reading your pov after watching the show is always the best part because you take all that khichri of thoughts inside my head and pen it so beautifully and grant it such a great insight and vision that even alludes me and i'm like SO GODDAMN TRUE!

This show is saturated with symbolisms but some of them (very few really 😆) truly leave you in awe.

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^^^ THIS RIGHT HERE! This says everything! EVERYTHING. You already know all my thoughts and Pov on Saanjh, Maya, Arjun and the show and there's not much I can add to the beauty that this post is. Every word and sentence is a deep reflection of the characters, the show and plot.

But I think i'll say this.
I've always always wondered if there's truly a line between wrong and right. Always wondered what scale is everyone measured with? Does my flaws and past grant me a free pass whilst yours don't?
I read an amazing answer on an information changing site once. The question was what is the most unfair advantage a person can have? And someone replied with luck.
On introspection I realized how true that can be. Not in just the sense that someone born with riches always have an unfair start/advantage on those born in poverty but in how they're brought up to. Someone who's lucked with great parents have a great advantage on someone who is dealt with a shitty fate, shitty parents and shitty life. And I've always wondered about that. Is it really that? Are we all really unfairly challenged? Does one have the right and justification to do something based on their past whilst the other doesn't? Is someone really more sorted and likely to be happy if they've a good past than those who've had a bad one (through no fault of their own)?

And while it's all purely subjective I also realized that the starts we get don't define us. It is the choices we make that defines us. OUR CHOICES. Someone (with a bad past who has been given immense pain, agony and has faced the worst the world has to give ) who chooses to help people, to save them from pain and agony because he himself has known what it's like to be in the throes of one, who knows better than anyone what it's like to be hurt, alone, hungry, lost, chooses to save the others from the pain of this very thing will ALWAYS ALWAAYS be better than the person who has gone through the same past yet knowing the pain of it still chooses to do the same to others.

At no times are we truly handicapped by our pasts. We can make the choice to step out of that circle, to break the chain, to make the choice between what is difficult and what is easy.
Nobody cares if you win or lose at the end. No, it's about making the choice to struggle for it regardless of what the outcome will be.

At every given point life is a battle and our choices define who we are. The choice between what is right and what is easy. What is right and what is comfortable. Which is why I loved Saanjh today. More than her choices it's her effort, the though put into the wheel of that act.

How incredibly beautiful was that moment where she who had loved him all her life. YEARS AND YEARS AND YEAARS, always had seen this day for herself, gave him to Maya with no malice, not the slightest of ill intention in her heart. And when Arjun followed her.

People tend to forget that life is more than your love interest. Not everything surrounds the person you love.😆 Zindagi mein aur bhi important log hain.

I find it funny how we talk about society in the context of a bride and how she'd be ashamed but become the same society and shame the beautiful bond of friendship. The way people were going on about the blasphemy of him leaving the mandap i thought he actually left her sitting and went outside whereas he was right there, right in front of Maya, two feet away.
I've always said this and i'll say it again Saanjh is his home turf and i'm NOT saying it in a romantic context. She has been his home his rock his world in the past decades! D E C A D E S. YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS! SHE IS HIS FAMILY. HIS BEST FRIEND. And it was his wedding. She is as important to him as Maya is. HE LOVES MAYA. And he LOVES SAANJH AND THE LOVES ARE TWO WORLDS APART! I love my parents, i love my family i love my bestfriends! EQUALLY but the kind of love i feel for them is different.

Arjun doesn't have to be perfect, a saviour, a good man when it comes to Saanjh. She has seen him at his worst because she is his bff. He was asking her to stay because for him he has a HAQQ to ask his bff for something, even knowing how rotten, selfish and bad he's being in that moment. aren't we all like that? It was an equally emotional moment for both him and Saanjh and it was purely friendship and beautiful. And a loving, trusting partner will not only understand such a moment but always support her beau. It wasn't just Maya's shaadi. It was his shaadi too. And he couldn't do it without his bestfriend, the girl who's been his strength, his home for years and years. it was a human moment for them both and Saanjh truly understood it.

I actually found it quite a beautiful moment ^^ Saanjh is the only person who makes Arjun more human for me. 😆 Arjun-Maya toh flow above my head. hurr hurr.😆 phansi phanda aag waala passion mere palle nahi parhta bhai.😆

( AND I DON'T SHIP ANY OF THEM. Arjun isn't worth shipping anyone with😆)

COMING TO MAYA - -GAH YOU KNOW MY THOUGHTS! She is the reason i started watching this show. She, her complexities and the brilliant brilliant way CVs portrayed her character. And then somewhere in the transition they lost me. I don't connect to her anymore. Not the way I used to. I still love Jen's acting and how brilliantly she essays Maya but what exactly am I rooting for in here? Maya's logics don't make sense. Her love doesn't have a tad bit of concern for Arjun as an individual (all she wants is to control him), her principles (do any exist anymore?😆 ), her struggles (stalking bf and giving angry-hot looks is such a struggle😆) i mean I would connect so much more if she doesn't want to do something and morally struggles with it. We all root for a character because we care the cause they're fighting for. We love them and believe in them and want them to achieve their goal. Whether is slaying the dragon, defeating the dark forces, winning from your inner demons, getting the love of the person xyz, getting revenge, redemption etc etc...

But when it comes to Maya I have NO idea what i'm rooting for exactly? For her to get and control Arjun? I mean haven't she already gotten him? 😆 aur baaki woh toh hai hi tattu😆 And I REALLY don't care about him to give a hoot if they end up together or not. And it's not like she's done something to show me ke haan bhai she truly deserves him.

I think they made a very fundamental error by introducing Saanjh and Maya as the anti forces. This took all the focus from Arjun away. Now he's nothing but a crutch, a board through which they can throw their darts across. What is his use actually? It's all about Maya and Saanjh.

It's like no matter how brilliant an antagonist JOKER is, pit him against Indiana Jones instead of Batman and he becomes useless and ridiculous. Because JOKER is the antithesis of Batman. they're so interesting because they complete one another.

I still think they should've brought a love interest of Maya ki takkar for her in this show. Someone as cunning and manipulative or atleast sharp and shrewd so you could TRULY enjoy the games and the level. Yeh to poora pappu hai. bechara.😆
Maya's character is wasted on him. matlab isme nazar kya aaya hai aapko. someone you can really control?


Arjun I don't care about. jaa beta jail jaa😆

Saanjh i do care for, just like Maya, but what exactly am I rooting for in this track? idek where the show's going at this point. her to save Arjun? Read the above.😆 gah.


but i love analyzing with you. even though iv'e not seen SO SO many episodes. ashwin part was meh. how will a court case and proving innocence and all showcase the taglines of the show? Wasn't it supposed to be about an obsessive ott girlfriend and her boyfriend? i had thought the court drama will come into play much much later.

GAAH THIS GOT SO LONG. BUT I ABSOLUTELY LOVED YOUR TOPIC! as always. you rock.

Originally posted by: .annihilation.

Originally posted by: BIaddict

I am relatively new to the forum, have been watching the show without coming here. Think I started following your posts recently and I very much enjoy reading it. I agree Maya is grey so far but I fully expect her to cross that line to black. I don't expect to see any guilt or remorse in her actions. Those kind of reactions comes into picture only when one has the slightest realization of what is right and what is wrong. I don't think Maya has the slightest clue. She has a set of rules and she truly believes her rights to be right. As we can see she don't cause any one any trouble till things are under her control, but once she loses control of circumstances the crazy Maya is unleashed. I don't think she is capable of comprehending what is right and what s wrong at this point. She confidently does what she thinks is right. I can never justify nor will I try to justify Maya's crazy actions but I love watching her and all the mistakes and crazy stuff she does. The writers has shown us why she is the way she is. She did not have a healthy childhood, the poisonous environment she grew up in made her mind and thoughts sick. Her guilt, her remorse will only come when she is guided to the light I believe probably by Sanj.

I do not see this as a Sanj and maya at opposite ends negating each other kind of deal. They both have different believes and different ways of loving the people in their lives. They are completely at contrast to each other. I think Sanj is probably that factor in Maya's life which will teach her the true meaning of love and probably guide her to light and help her find peace and happiness while protecting Arjun from any harm from Maya's obsessive love.

Originally posted by: BIaddict

@ann, same here. Was nice discussing Maya.

From your posts I have gathered you are not a couple fan and you care about the story and script. So we have similar views there . I think we have similar perspectives on almost all charecters except Maya. We differ on Maya slightly. At the end of the day it is our perspective only and our perspective may change later based on what we see from Maya going forward. It was a healthy discussion though, thank you for respectfully debating with me.

Originally posted by: opsyellow

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Beautiful written
I actually watched the episode after reading this post! You have a talent with word!
Keep up

Thank you very much. :D

I actually believe everyone deserves a chance for happiness and Maya deserve it too and I strongly believe that Arjun can give that to her but no relationship should start with lie. I know Arjun think he doesn't need to know Maya's past but only because he doesn't know the deep of it. Yes he knows about her father but how bad it effected Maya, he doesn't know. Maya is sick and need help and love. Sometimes I feel like Arjun is really stupid, I mean the way Maya was putting everyone in risk with that fire And He was like " yeah let's get married cos you want that"

And Arjun doesn't deserve a friend like S!

I think everyone deserves happiness and peace in their lives. And then, chances and second chances depending on what might have happened to them or what they might have done. So, all three of them, Arjun, Maya and Saanjh deserve happiness. However, not the cost of ruining someone else's happiness or lives.

Originally posted by: .annihilation.