Maya Sociopath? Psychopath? Let's Look at Definitions

• Some of no real attachments
• Lack empathy
• Poor sense of right and wrong
• Possibly aggressive (often not then yes)
• Deceitful

• No conscience
• Charming
• Cunning
• Intelligent
• Born like this
• Go getters

• A very small conscience
• Anti-social
• Act without thinking
• Environment plays a huge factor
• Impulsive and hot headed
• Can possibly love (confirmation required?)

Thank God u put those disclaimers, I should have done the same in my post earlier.

I actually myself had researched about sociopath and psychopath on google a lot of time.. But sometimes i find both and sometimes i feel its noone of them.
A sociopath or psychopath person doesnot have any feelings but its not the same with maya. She actually jumped in river to save her mother. Means she has feelings. She has conscience.
I sometimes feel it as a bipolar disorder also.. Bcoz she has mood swings. She is crying and breakingdown and suddenly she becomes violent. It feels as she is changed. And then within few mins she is back to being emotional.

I think cvs themselves have not defined her illness properly and thy are showing time to time every characteristics that can be related to mental disease.
Whatever it is i just hope thy show maya to be treated properly. Just showing her as pyschopath or mentally ill and giving her license to become killer and vamp, and by the end killing her as she is unredeemable anymore, will be insensitive way to show mental illness.. I dont mind whether or not she stays wth Arjun. But her getting peace finally will be justice for her all childhood sufferings.

Falls under neither category ! Just a plain old Indian TV vamp made to look cool & Jennifer playing the role just added to the charm a million times more.

from medicaldaily;

Originally posted by: TheUnique

Falls under neither category ! Just a plain old Indian TV vamp made to look cool & Jennifer playing the role just added to the charm a million times more.

Cuz vamp is the only label given to anyone who is not pure like Gopi bahu 🤣
There is no such thing as humane or realistic in Indian television
The only label given to someone who is not pure is straight out called a "vamp" 🤣

Originally posted by: ishakumar

Cuz vamp is the only label given to anyone who is not pure like Gopi bahu 🤣
There is no such thing as humane or realistic in Indian television
The only label given to someone who is not pure is straight out called a "vamp" 🤣

it is difficult categorise maya in box definition of psychiatric illness . infact due to unprovoked manipulation against some ckt i doubt if she really has some severe issue which are making her to manipulate things or she is too selfish n irrational person !!

i feel she is suffering from borderline personality disorder. n person suffering from this do manipulate things .

i will post info from Google here

first BPD

Borderline personality disorder (BPD), also known as emotionally unstable personality disorder, is a long-term pattern of abnormal behavior characterized by unstable
relationships with other people, unstable
sense of self , and unstable emotions . There is often an extreme fear of
abandonment , frequent dangerous behavior, a feeling of emptiness, and self-harm . Symptoms may be brought on by seemingly normal events. The behavior typically begins by early adulthood, and occurs across a variety of situations. Substance abuse,
depression , and eating disorders are commonly associated with BPD. BPD increases the risk of self-harm and 10% of people affected die by suicide .
BPD's causes are unclear, but seem to involve genetic, brain, environment, and social factors. It occurs about five times more often in a person who has an affected close relative. Adverse life events also appear to play a role

more info here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotionally_unstable_personality_disorder



than about manipulation

Definition:
Manipulation - The practice of steering an individual into a desired behavior for the purpose of achieving a hidden personal goal.
Collateral Damage
People with Personality Disorders often engage in behaviors which appear manipulative and controlling to those around them. While these manipulative acts may be deliberate and conscious on the part of the Personality Disordered individual, their focus is often not so much on the person they are controlling as it is on themselves. In many cases, the person is attempting to soothe internal feelings or fears by creating a focal point in a close relationship, rather than attempting to produce certain feelings in others - a bit like the way a puppeteer seeks an audience response through the puppet's antics.
This helps explain why appeals for fairness or logical arguments are often ineffective in persuading people with Personality Disorders to behave more fairly or lovingly. For them, their own feelings take precedence, while the feelings and needs of others may appear small and insignificant. This can result in a dysfunctional Situational Ethic in the mind of the person with the Personality Disorder in which the end (resolving the internal feelings) justifies the means (controlling, manipulating or hurting someone close).
This does not qualify as an excuse for manipulative or hurtful behaviors. It can be helpful for Nons however to understand that this disconnect exists in the minds of some Personality Disordered persons, and that the manipulative or controlling behavior is not somehow deserved, or even on some levels personal.
How it Looks
Behaving in an outrageous or violent way in order to provoke an angry response - known as Baiting.
Casting oneself as a victim in order to evoke a sympathetic response - also known as Self-Victimization.
Overt acts of self-harm intended to generate a crisis for loved ones.
Overt cheating or flirting to evoke a sense of jealousy in others.
Withdrawal, avoidance or silent treatment designed to get the other person to pursue closeness.
Proxy Recruitment, or pitting two other people against each other in order to create conflict between others.
Chronic empty promises.
Raging with the intent of maintaining a state of conflict or to force another to pay greater attention.
Hoovering to persuade a withdrawing abuse victim to return to a state of closeness.
How it Feels
Acts of manipulation often evoke the greatest feelings of betrayal and anger in those who are affected by them. It is humiliating to discover that someone has been controlling you without your consent.
Learning To Cope with Manipulation
Your thoughts and feelings are your own property and nobody has a right to manipulate or control your feelings without your consent. Therefore it is important to establish boundaries to protect yourself and to detach emotionally from the manipulative person so that your own feelings cannot be used as a tool to control you.
What NOT to Do
Don't fly off the handle when somebody does something outrageous. Just get away from them.
Don't take it personally when someone tries to manipulate or control you - chances are they are so focused on themselves that your feelings are insignificant to them.
Don't argue or plead for compassion or justice from a controlling person. They may be looking at the situation through a very different lens than you and be blind to your logic.
Don't retaliate or try to get revenge on a person who manipulates you. This will only make the situation worse, and you will likely regret it.
Don't put yourself in a position where you can be easily controlled. If the manipulative person gets to you by spending your money or breaking objects which are valuable to you don't allow them access to those things.
Don't let your guard down when a manipulative person switches and starts being kind. Most abusive behaviors are cyclical and are based on the ebb and flow of the abuser's feelings.
Don't become isolated and suffer in silence. You need support to cope.
What TO Do
Quickly, calmly and without drama, leave the situation and get to a place where you are treated with respect.
Work on boundaries which will protect you, your loved ones and your property. Make people and things which are vulnerable off-limits to those who don't have the ability to control their own behavior.
If appropriate, state clearly and calmly what the offending behavior is one time only - such as "when you do this, I feel that".
Get support and discuss your concerns with someone who cares about you and who understands Personality Disorders.
Spend time with people who will treat you with genuine respect and honor and uphold your dignity.
http://outofthefog.website/top-100-trait-blog/2015/11/4/manipulation


i tried to search if crime committed by than pardonable ? mostly not

"For the most part, people with personality disorders are quite capable of making choices about their behavior. They know the difference between right and wrong, although they may have no emotional investment in doing what is right. They can follow society's rules and laws when it suits their purpose"

here is the article citing incident where bpd patient was punished.

http://www.lovefraud.com/2012/07/17/personality-disorder-as-an-excuse-for-criminal-behavior/




another article showing strong correlation of bpd n criminal behavior.

http://hubpages.com/health/Borderline-Personality-Disorder-Criminal-Behavior

Borderline personality disorder has been reported as the one of the top disorders prison inmates are diagnosed with linking the disorder with criminal behavior (Sansone 2009). Between 25% to 50% of inmates in prison suffer from borderline personality disorder, mostly shown within females (Sansone 2009). So what is borderline personality? What causes someone to develop the disorder? Why is it linked to so many within our criminal justice system? And how can we prevent so many who suffer from borderline personality disorder from becoming another number within our prisons?
Borderline Per


u can go to that link more info is there n also questions to know if person has signs suggestive of bpd.

First I had thought Maya to be a sociopath, she never fell into the bracket of psychopath for me. Because she cares for her mother from the beginning. But now I dont think sociopath as pom rightly said she draws strength from Arjun to stand against her worst fear.

Originally posted by: starasdf

Okay first and foremost I would like to make it very clear that this post is about facts and definition, NOT a way to bash Maya.

This is to discuss her character and cross check it with the definition of Psychopathy and Sociopathy. So please do participate in the discussion but stick to how her characteristics match/don't match a Psychopath's/Sociopath's.

When I look at Maya, Sociopath or Psychopath always popped up into my head but I was never able to say yes to either completely. So I wanted to post this to see what you all think after analyzing her character and reading the definitions below. Do look it up in more detail if you are more curious.

Both:

• Some of no real attachments
• Lack empathy
• Poor sense of right and wrong
• Possibly aggressive (often not then yes)
• Deceitful

Psychopath:

• No conscience
• Charming
• Cunning
• Intelligent
• Born like this
• Go getters

Sociopath:

• A very small conscience
• Anti-social
• Act without thinking
• Environment plays a huge factor
• Impulsive and hot headed
• Can possibly love (confirmation required?)

Now, the reason why I don't think Maya has a Dissociative Personality Disorder is because her personality is consistent, she doesn't exactly do 360's. Nor do I think she's Bipolar because each mood swing last a long time, and are extreme which I haven't seen in Maya.

Maya is smart and cunning, she is charming and knows how to get what she wants. A go getter basically. Her character matches the Psychopath definition except for two major things. She does have attachments - Arjun and her mom and she was not born like this.

Traits from both: I haven't seen her truly feel sorry for something she has done. She is unable to see right from wrong - her ideology of control as an example and I think she can possibly be aggressive i.e Ballon incident.

On the other hand, on the Sociopath list matches her except for the fact how she became to be like this. Environment played a huge factor with Ashwin being abusive and Jhanvi being stuck in a cycle of abuse. Also I do think she has a conscience left in her. She is impulsive at times for example when Arjun almost turned her down on the balloon, she put both of them in danger and I don't think that was planned. I think Sociopaths can love, though not as normal people would - which is true in Maya's case.

Its such a mismatch of traits that she portrays that sometimes I just think neither. And because her feelings for Arjun are strong and I heard Sociopaths can love (not as a normal person would though) vs. Psychopaths can't (can be in a beneficial relationship) - can someone confirm? Though let's face it, the mismatch is probably due to the writers goofing up. 😆

Maya is looking for love therefore she might not be a Socio/Psychopath. If we see Maya find peace within herself (which I hope so) I don't think she can be a Psychopath, because that is the way they are born. Both these illness can be managed but what I am hoping for is that Maya will see the way, find peace and be happy within, and I don't think that is possible with either of these illness, therefore a big part of me hopes its neither.

I have given my reasons for neither, Sociopath and Psychopath and as you can see I can convince myself for all three. 😆

What do you all think? By definition what could it be? Or something completely different?

This is not a set science and the definitions are not set in stone. I am not a pro though, so please correct me if I am wrong or misinformed somewhere. It's just an interesting topic I thought I would bring up again but this time focusing more on the science.

Star

References:

http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2015/02/12/differences-between-a-psychopath-vs-sociopath/

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/features/sociopath-psychopath-difference

P.S. Once again, NOT a Maya bash post (she happens to be one of my favourite characters and I would NOT be watching the show without her), just analyzing what her illness could possibly be.

P.S Not a post about Saanjh, lets stick to Maya's character.

To me Maya seems more like a Psychopath, I agree with the possibility off her having OCD.