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Posted: 8 years ago
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^ Great post by you, @TM! 👏
All actions that Maya has done so far.. I too feel she's suffering from Multiple Personality Syndrome.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

First I had thought Maya to be a sociopath, she never fell into the bracket of psychopath for me. Because she cares for her mother from the beginning. But now I dont think sociopath as pom rightly said she draws strength from Arjun to stand against her worst fear.

I felt it can be multiple personality syndrome because in one of the epi Maya gives a terrifying look to her mother after throwing her mobile and same thing she repeats once again, but she comes back to normal faster.
If it is MPD it is situation created. I mean sometimes if it was treated it might lie low, but if not completely removed it can strike back given the circumstance. It doesnt come always. That is why it is difficult to prove also. Because first you need to understand under what circumstance it happens. Then you have to recreate that circumstance for that person to show that self of theirs.

MPD is not madness , it is a disease caused to defend oneself against certain unfavorablesituations or decisions that happened.

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/dissociative-identity-disorder-multiple-personality-disorder#1

For me Ashwin is now trying to provoke the situation in public so that Maya's problem comes out in full force.

Question is, is Maya aware of her alter ego. Sometimes people know about their alter ego and allow it to control them. They are doing it knowing that their alter ego is controlling them. But they feel it is right. Many times Maya's manipulation can be part of this also.

Difference between the movie Bhool Bhulaiya and Anniyan was that in Bhool Bhulaiyya she is completely cured, while in Anniyan it seems he is cured, but he murders but this time with full knowledge of what he is doing.


Interesting! I thought about Multiple Personality Disorder but it never made sense to me in Maya's case. Though, what I know of MPD is through movies like Split and shows, so that being said I actually don't have a proper understand of it.

If you read one of the other comments, Borderline Personality Disorder seems like a possibility as well.

If it were to be MPD, I think Maya would know because we have seen Arjun talk her out of her fear state a few times and she doesn't look confused or disoriented. She accepts Arjun's comfort. This is why I also think it might not be?

I am looking forward to the revelation of what her condition actually is and then I will be making a HUGE post about how the CVs messed up the actual science. 😆

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: iMini

To me Maya seems more like a Psychopath, I agree with the possibility off her having OCD.

Psychopaths don't have any attachments doesn't mean they don't have relationships. They do, just that they aren't as emotionally invested in it. In fact, with enough help they can develop habits good enough to look like they are emotionally attached. (Fake it till you make it) because they do realize the importance of good relationships in life. Here Arjun's presence in Maya's life serves a big utility too (facing Ashwin!)
Critical incidents bring to surface more intense symptoms of any mental disorder and not just psychopathy (explains why she seemed normal in childhood). Ashwin isn't a mentally healthy person either - let's not discuss his case for now.

Most psychopaths are able to lead a normal life. Maya's problem is her abusive childhood and lack of professional help. This makes it harder for her to understand how the conventional social norms work.

Psychopaths too vary by personalities and intensity of their 'symptoms'. No two psychopaths are the same the very same way no two normal people are same.

I am not sure about how Narcissistic people behave since I didn't encounter one yet. Any inputs?

Her self harming and randomly weeping(balcony scene in first episode), insomnia can be signs of acute depression - which eased with entry of Arjun in her life.


Interesting take on Maya and why she might be a Psychopath!

For sure Psychopaths learn to have relationships that benefit them but I am not sure if Arjun is beneficial to her in that sense. In the last few episodes you may have seen that she is now standing up to Ashwin on her own. She found that strength through seeing Arjun confront him, but she isn't exactly using him.

Additionally, Psychopaths are born in like this while Maya's environment made her like this (like a Sociopath). This is the most important thing that stops me from thinking that she is a Psychopath. Because I think she fits all other characteristics, such as smart, cunning, very little regard for right and wrong, will stop at nothing once she knows what she wants and etc.

Until I read your comment, I thought her attachment to her mother is something that also doesn't classify her as a Psychopath BUT, you've got me thinking...

Maya is a traumatized person, she is also a lonely person, having her mother by her side is beneficial to her, it keeps her sane and so, she will never let her mother leave. Lets face it, she is abusive to her mother too. She locks her up to stop her from leaving, threatens and more. But when this happens, she reacts in a impulsive, hot headed manner, i.e. a Sociopath.

So that being said, is her attachment to her mother love? Or a Psychopath/Sociopath who knows that the only reason of her sanity is her mother and therefore she cannot ever let her leave. And is it a similar thing with Arjun too now?

^Just a thought, pretty sure it isn't like this (disagreeing with my own theory 😆) but its an alternative way that one can perceive Maya's character.

And who knows, you may have met a psychopath but you might not have even known, they're extremely smart. 😆




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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

Great post TM! I think Maya is more like a sociopath but like Shrutiravi said, she may have a form of MPD as well. Maya Mehrotra the "Public persona" is like a character she plays, in control and ice cold. Then there is the private Maya. Vulnerable, sad and lonely to a great extent.


I think her circumstances created her. I don't think she was born like this. But later in the story, we will get to make a better judgment of this with more facts. I think Jennifer herself said that Maya's character is grey and that of an insomniac sociopath. Her demons haunt her. But Arjun has come into her life as a light. Making her embrace that which she was not willing to before. Color and emotional vulnerability. But Arjun's love has also given her strength to stand up to Ashwin. Because no matter how "in control" Maya is to the world, with Ashwin, she reverts back to that scared 9-year-old time and again. Ashwin knows this, and that is why he gets to her. Ashwin truly hates Maya and the feeling is mutual.

As of now, I think she is a sociopath.


Thank you MrDarcyFan! I enjoy reading your posts as well!

@Bold But that can also be a person who is good at hiding their feelings right?

I pretty much agree with what you've written. Though, as we have seen in the recent episodes, Arjun may be helping her with Ashwin but her she is developing a fixation on Arjun where even a mention or a joke about the wedding stopping sets her off.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: naomihyuga

i would say definitions are not everything even when we say a medicine works for some disease it only means it works on most of them not everyone there is no 100% in anything especially in regards to human beings its us who define things its our interpretations those definitions given are mostly from case studies which means they apply to majority of them not all them


Oh for sure, psychology is not a set science which just follows a set of rules and varies from person to person, I just thought it would be interesting to try and cross check Maya's characteristics with these traits.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Absolutely loved your post. I'm glad someone put this up and more so, because it came from you, someone whose topics I personally enjoy. The writers are just throwing away things here and there with regards to Maya's mental illness. It's so difficult to be able to categorise her or even make a guess at what could be her condition because everything is just all over the place.

I can only go as far as saying that she seems to be a case of multiple mental/personality disorders. There's not just one but quite a complicated mess of many conditions put together. Not too sure but I have read that people with certain kind of mental conditions who haven't received timely treatment, weren't treated right or didn't receive treatment at all are prone to violence at later stages.

But if they put it all on depression in the end, I might punch someone in the face. 😳

https://www.drgeorgesimon.com/character-disorders-and-malice/

^^ That made an interesting read to me and kinda reminded me of Maya's character.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#27
maybe both or maybe none!
i cant exactly pick a single one.. shez one heck of an unpredictable & interesting char!

bt f i hav2 pick one, i'd go wid sociopath!

she seems 2 hav a conscience in her. vry lil, considerin d fact dat she admitted 2 arjun dat shez a bad person wen jhanvi was hospitalized. weneva she prays2 god, she seems 2 ask 2 frgive her sins & b wid her.

like u said, environment plays a huge factor & she wasnt born like dis..

shez in luv.

d nly thing i feel is, she doesnt act impulsive. & she tinks well b4 she acts. maya doesnt look like sm1 who does smtn widout tinkin abt d consequences. .
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@Bold Yes!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: katrinasalman

Psychopath:
  • No conscience
  • Charming
  • Cunning
  • Intelligent
  • Born like this
  • Go-getters
I can agree with 4 things i.e. Charming, cunning, intelligent and go-getters. Intelligence and cunningness are needed to survive in this world. Go-getters show how active they are. I cannot agree with no conscience and born like that as Maya does have the conscience. She knows very well what she is doing. I don't think she was like that from her birth. It was only under the forced circumstances, she is the way she is.

Sociopath:
  • A very small conscience
  • Anti-social
  • Act without thinking
  • Environment plays a huge factor
  • Impulsive and hot headed
  • Can possibly love (confirmation required?)
In all the above-mentioned points, it has been the environment where she was brought up and that makes a huge difference. The other thing is she is impulsive and hot-headed which makes her violent. She can love people who are near and dear to her. She loves her mother & Arjun. She can love people who stand for her, no matter what. She would not like to lose her loved ones at any cost. She acts without thinking only when she loses her temper, which is quite common. As for her conscience, she needs to understand the difference between platonic love and limitless love which we call as beyhadh pyaar. In my view, it is the environment she was brought up and her temper which are the major issues Maya is facing. Apart from that, she needs some sense for which someone needs to show her the proper way.


Agreed, Maya wasn't born like this which is the biggest thing that doesn't allow me to categorize her as a Psychopath. But Maya may know right from wrong, but she has little regard for it. She will do what it takes, right or wrong don't matter.

I do think it runs way deeper than just anger management, just scraping the top of the list would be Post Traumatic Stress (less and less seen now that she stands up to him). But yes, the cause of it was her environment which is important to note.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Swetha-

^ Great post by you, @TM! 👏

All actions that Maya has done so far.. I too feel she's suffering from Multiple Personality Syndrome.


Thank you!
And may be, I look forward to finding out what it is.

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