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Posted: 8 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

I get what you are saying about Maya. But as far as Maya's redemption is concerned, that is something we will have to wait and watch. We can't say it will or won't happen at this stage. It is still too early in the piece for that.


I am watching the show to watch what Maya does next, because to me she is the most fascinating character on this show. She is unpredictable in her actions, but her intentions are always clear. She knows what she wants and everything she does is in aid of this. She has no confusion in her mind. She is a go-getter. One of the main reasons for her success is her single-minded dedication to what she sets her aim on. Maya is a winner and so far she has won.

Yes Maya has a mental illness. But I believe she has never received adequate treatment for it. That is why it is where it is right now. She had terrible parents who ruined her life and her current state is directly related to them. Her Mother is pathetic and Maya had to Mother her most of her life. It's frustrating to deal with someone who refuses to acknowledge reality. Ashwin is a user and is bad news. But Jhanvi is a loser, so she believes him. He uses her, and she lets herself be used. She is addicted to this abusive man and his brand of charm. In my eyes, Jhanvi is worse than Ashwin. Knowing full well what Ashwin is, she not only exposes herself to him but puts Maya in danger as well. I can't imagine having parents who thought less about me and more about themselves. That has been Maya's reality all her life. No wonder she is a mess!

Maya doesn't know normal love. She doesn't know how to be a regular person. She is who she is, and her love is the way it is. This is the only way she knows. In her mind, she is fully justified. But her methods are flawed. I am really glad they are at least trying to center a story around a flawed character who is not some Abala Nari, super bahu type. Or a woman who has no self-respect, and never stands up for herself and lets herself be used. So on that score, Beyhadh is meeting my expectations. Even if Arjun and Maya are NOT end game, I personally don't think Arjun and Saanjh should be either. It is too much of a cliche. These three people each need to find their own path. I don't think anyone needs to end up together. That is my view.


About the redemption part, no bad deeds are so grave that it cannot be redeemed. I really wonder how did Maya put up despite not being groomed up in her life.I don't think she was given any guidance. Science has developed so much that almost every illness has got the treatment. Even mental illness has. There are so many children who do not get proper treatment at the right time. Maya falls under that category.

She has set up a huge empire despite her limitations and is managing her company well. She is giving bread and butter to so many people. That is not a small thing. But as far as her personal life is concerned, she is very much vulnerable. She is mothering Jhanvi whereas the latter has to do that part.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: katrinasalman


Exactly, Saanjh is in her dream world who thinks she can still get Arjun. She has been doing detectivegiri in the name of her caring for Arjun. She thinks no one can love Arjun as much as she does.


exactly just because she has been arjuns friend since childhood, she feels he belongs to her only

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Posted: 8 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: SaurabhKiRadha

i did not find ur post offensive against maya u are much more lenient than me ( and i am strict not because i love saanjh or want saajun [ i am totally against it now])

u said maya is not evil person i agree but i don't agree that she can't commit crime .

in my opinion she is unpredictable n she can commit crime unintentionally without understanding the consequences. i feel she has bpd n i have posted more about it in stars's thread.


@bold exactly! Maya doesn't understand the consequences of her actions. About bpd, yes! Even i think so...I'm yet to update my reply in detail in that post, didn't get time today..
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Posted: 8 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: angelk1

You have a point. Maya isnt a psycho ..yet, but she is being shown as a grey manipulative women. I would use the term mental but maya obsessers might start a war. I will say this she has her moments where shes portraite as a crazy women. The air balloon proposal is an example, lets not forget the dinner with saanj scene.

But i dont blame her for being the way she is, i blame her parents. They are mest up in the head, their all manipulative an cunning. Jhanvi seem like shes in her sense an knows maya real condition. She should be teaching maya what not to do to help her move forward. She should be helping her think positive an trying to protect her daughter from negativity , But she never tried, instead she went along with anything an sometimes even staid put.

Maya mom is suffering from depression, but she doesnt show it. She hides it well, an i believe maya learn it from her. If maya condition is dangerous then arjun has every right to know.



@bold precisely. This guy Arjun is going to marry only a perception of maya that has been created dor him by maya herself. It is Maya's duty to tell him, however dark her secret may be since he is going to be directly affected by it.

Agree with ur points, Maya's condition is mostly due to neglect from her own parents in childhood. Had they intervened and secured a fruitful life for Maya, rather had Jhanvi only intervened, then things would be a lot different now. Jhanvi's character is highly suspicious. I don't think she is suffering from depression. Shes either confused between who is right and wrong anf blinded by her love for ashwin or is not who she shows herself to be. The Mehrotra family is a mystery which I hope is decoded by Arjun and Saanjh.

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Posted: 8 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: tanvismile

A person with mental illness should recover but this show is not social message show. It's a thriller. Viewers want to see which extent maya goes for the sake of her Obsession. No matter what she does. The character will never be hated. It will be iconic character like SRK from Darr.

Maya s unpredictable nature keeps the show going.


Exactly, that's what Beyhadh is about. To what extent maya can go to, that's where the thrill of this show lies. Ppl here are expecting a love story and chemistry and hot scenes, and I'm like 😳. Also, I dunno why people are assuming that I hate maya. I may hate her as a person affected by her manipulations normally would but I don't wish bad for her as some ppl wrongly assume.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

I get what you are saying about Maya. But as far as Maya's redemption is concerned, that is something we will have to wait and watch. We can't say it will or won't happen at this stage. It is still too early in the piece for that.


I am watching the show to watch what Maya does next, because to me she is the most fascinating character on this show. She is unpredictable in her actions, but her intentions are always clear. She knows what she wants and everything she does is in aid of this. She has no confusion in her mind. She is a go-getter. One of the main reasons for her success is her single-minded dedication to what she sets her aim on. Maya is a winner and so far she has won.

Yes Maya has a mental illness. But I believe she has never received adequate treatment for it. That is why it is where it is right now. She had terrible parents who ruined her life and her current state is directly related to them. Her Mother is pathetic and Maya had to Mother her most of her life. It's frustrating to deal with someone who refuses to acknowledge reality. Ashwin is a user and is bad news. But Jhanvi is a loser, so she believes him. He uses her, and she lets herself be used. She is addicted to this abusive man and his brand of charm. In my eyes, Jhanvi is worse than Ashwin. Knowing full well what Ashwin is, she not only exposes herself to him but puts Maya in danger as well. I can't imagine having parents who thought less about me and more about themselves. That has been Maya's reality all her life. No wonder she is a mess!

Maya doesn't know normal love. She doesn't know how to be a regular person. She is who she is, and her love is the way it is. This is the only way she knows. In her mind, she is fully justified. But her methods are flawed. I am really glad they are at least trying to center a story around a flawed character who is not some Abala Nari, super bahu type. Or a woman who has no self-respect, and never stands up for herself and lets herself be used. So on that score, Beyhadh is meeting my expectations. Even if Arjun and Maya are NOT end game, I personally don't think Arjun and Saanjh should be either. It is too much of a cliche. These three people each need to find their own path. I don't think anyone needs to end up together. That is my view.


@bold Thank u. About the point about Maya's redemption what i meant was, there is no question of redemption as the cause of mayas action is her mental health. Only that person who is fully aware about the consequences of her/his actions is redeemable. Maya, on the other hand does not even know that what she is doing is wrong, so she won't hesitate from doing it again and thats why she will never reach to the realisation that her behaviour is harming others to a degree that is not acceptable. Thats why I say there is no redemption, not that there is nothing maya can do to undo her actions. She sure can, but she wont, because she doesn't regret any of her manipulations on others. They are just for her as long as they conform to her rules and what she wants.

The rest of the points, u have summed up beautifully. And said exactly what I wanted to say. 😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
#37
@lumos...yes I agree.,if she does crimes then she should face the law .but also I wanted to see some medical help Maya gets,she should redeem and will once she is treated for her illness...I hope arjun is not shallow and run away from Maya..I want him to stand by her...why do I think that next person to die will be vandana???...I didn't watch the episodes..what was all about saanjhs dance...I want good end for Maya, saanjh should not end up with arjun ...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sindu_gurti

@lumos...yes I agree.,if she does crimes then she should face the law .but also I wanted to see some medical help Maya gets,she should redeem and will once she is treated for her illness...I hope arjun is not shallow and run away from Maya..I want him to stand by her...why do I think that next person to die will be vandana???...I didn't watch the episodes..what was all about saanjhs dance...I want good end for Maya, saanjh should not end up with arjun ...



No dear, my post was not meant to be that way, that maya should be penalised. If she murders she should definitely face the law, there is no excuse for that but other than that, all of Maya's acts till now are not grave enough for her to be penalised by the law as such. Yes, Arjun should stand by maya, not necessarily as her lover but as a true friend, and his friendship/love will surely be tested once the real maya is out before him.
As for vandana dying, I dont think maya will kill her or lead her to death but there is a strong possibility that she will separate her from Arjun( there have been many symbolisms prior: the pandit's prediction, Arjun saying he will live in Maya s flat in the very first episode, the chaos Maya's first step into Arjun's house created, etc)

Saanjh was dancing in parallel to Arjun dancing at his haldi. Arjun really doesn't deserve the dedication that Saanjh has for this friendship. He was so insensitive when Saanjh told him shes not going to come for the wedding and then he expects her to turn up. And most of this is Saanjhs fault herself. She let Arjun take her for granted. I want a good end for Maya too, and Saanjh and Arjun are best suited as friends only, I can't see them in a romantic relationship, not anytime soon.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: .bluebolt


I did very well read the post. What is wrong in her saying Maya will destroy ashwin & arjun. That is what Maya herself has said. There is no debate abt ashwin everyone knows what she is doing with ashwin. Abt arjun Maya herself has indicated how she will not spare him if he have to go away. Like her dialogue that once someone wants to withdraw hand from her hold they will have to learn to live without hand. Or the symbolism of flame destroying arjuns lamp in mauritius

Was your essay based on only this sentence that Maya will destroy ashwin and arjun😆 God save ppl from making mountain out of molehill.


@bold this line is too funny!!🤣🤣
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: SaurabhKiRadha

@angel i hope there is no rushed ending. they have planned this show in advance.

as far as Maya 's opponent wether it us saanjh /arjun or new person he/she should use manipulation but with in limit of law . only way to prove audience that justice can be achieved following rules n regulations of society.

i still find jhanvi weird if she has manipulated maya or if she will in future than maya will learn where she was wrong by tasting her medicine ( off course if she is sane n not patients of bpd)

oh i forgot about arjun . i never started watching this show for saajun but i really loved their bond at 1 point even wanted to root for them . but than arjun chose maya so i didn't want to ship them as couple but still loved their bond . but arjun made me anti saajun . this guy who knew saanjh so long , she was only best frn of arjun , only girl close to arjun still he can't understand her !!
he knows very well she is more focused about his wellbeing than hers . her prayers are always about him . still he could blame her for being jealous of his career n relationship . common she was leaving to Singapore right u only stopped her from going. he can't differentiate between ego n self respect of his frn . she was upset not because it was arjun n maya 's haldi but her duffer had huge ego n that is why he could not come n say forget the fight n plz come for haldhi . his sorry was not even needed . past scene also suggest that arjun never ever said sorry to her . Remember their hug scene arjun was about to say sorry but saanjh hugs him n stops saying if u will say sorry my ears will burn . just one effort to call her for haldhi n this girl would be there participating in his rituals happily ignoring her heart ache .
why arjun can't tell in simple language that "saanjh baba don't come between me n maya wether she lies or harms me it is my problem. we are couple we can deal it " . there was no need to accuse n insult her .




I agree, her dancing in her room is her way of handling the pain. She knows arjun haldi started. She was probably imagining herself there dancing with him. Her putting the haldi on her face I'm not sure with indian culture. Now everyone is thinking. Saanj will become negative because for one shes heart broken an two she wont let go of arjun. It wont make sense if saanj end up being negative because she cant even manipulate people like maya can. Shes not that clever, it would just backfire.

Also i dont understand why maya an ashwin want to use saanj in their game of cat an mouse. Maya used her to push her away from arjun. While now ashwin will manipulate her an use her to get maya back. Both father an daughter knows saanj is the weakest link in their game an can easily be persuade as long as they say arjun. I hope saanj refuse, an he finds another target.

Ashwin knows saanj vulnerable right now. So thats the perfect time to blackmail.

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