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Posted: 8 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: TheUnique



Just tell me one thing who would you think should have helped her to get mental treatment early in her life. Her dad ? Who kept on physically & matally abusing her & wants her daughter to stay all alone & unhappy ? Or would you suggest her mom get her that ...which seems quiet unlikely to me cuz the lady needs mental treatment herself ! In Maya's family no one is normal . Everyone needs treatment ...so getting help for her at an early age seems impossible ! That so called mom of Maya's married the man who just tied her up a few days ago & nearly killed a diabetic patient like her by making her eat all those sweets ! So who do you suggest should have gotten help for her & prevent her from being toxic ? I applaud her that after coming from such a dysfunctional family she has made it to the top.



Yes, her parents didn't pay attention to her, which is why she is like this. But if Maya is that successful an entrepreneur and strong she should realise now atleast that she has a problem, and seek help from a counsellor, instead she chooses to run away from her demons and lives a life that poses a danger ti herself and others. Why isn't she doing that? Because maybe even she doesn't know she has this problem. And being professionally successful is nowhwre linked to her problem. To say she is facing her demons is what i disagreed to, as that's not the case.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: TheUnique



U r right. When Saanjh after so many years of friendship feels insecure around Maya how can Maya not feel the same ! You know what puzzles me is whole mahulla knows Saanjh's love for Arjun ...why till today Ayaan has never teased her bro with Saanjh as siblings do .. y hasn't motor mouth Suman ever blabbered something on that line to Arjun while whole day she's behind her daughter to get Arjun. Why hasn't any of their neighbor never gave a passing comment to Arjun regarding Sanjh cuz in middle class residencies these things are never kept hidden. One aunty or the other will obviously spread it ...I just don't get it y Arjun never even got a hint of Saanjh's love for him ever ! The whole family is quiet free with him too ... if they can tease saanjh about it ... y didn't they do the same with Arjun ?


That is something I don't get either. It's rather odd that Arjun has absolutely no clue.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: pomegranate

I'm still surprised Maya managed to come this far. with a history and parents like hers, I would expect her to be in jail/mental hospital, rehab or dead. No matter what people think of her, she deserves to applauded for the life she carved out for herself-for where she has come. this is not enough, Maya still has a long way to- she still has to burn her demons otherwise darkness will swallow her, but still she deserves credit for it

Maya has no one really, I thought her mother is a support but I guess it was wrong. she has money but no love, and her own mom betrays her. If not the darkness, then the emptiness will eventually consume her. what does maya mehrotra exactly have? even better, why can't she deserve a second chance?


In contrast,Saanjh has all the wealth in the world. A beautiful childhood, loving parents, vandana and ayan's unending support and arjun's friendship. Yet she still complains to god for taking arjun away from her, when in reality she arjun's friendship is the most valuable thing.



The will to survive is the strongest urge in a living thing. Any animal, insect or human would fight till their last breath to survive. That is what Maya has achieved. She is a survivor. But is she really alive? I would say NO.

Emotionally she is a mess, we cannot predict what she is... that part is still in the dark to us. On the one side she is portrayed as evil... but that evil is not inflicted by her, but is a co incidence of situations. Like the pundit precition or how Vandana and Ayaan react when she enters their home the first time. Its more of the Omen than the real Maya. Even when she broke that glass, the harm was on herself not on others. Her reaction to Saanjh are jealousy and spite. Those are normal human emotions probably a little extreme. Talking back to Vandana is not wrong, why do we want a meek bahu? And can we really imagine Maya to be meek? I dont want to see a Gopi vahu in Maya 😆

On the other side Maya is portrayed as a child. Who craves for love and to belong to someone and be cared for... and right now that solace is Arjun. Even this relationship with Arjun is not fully defined. Inspite of that they have crossed milestones. Maya has unwittingly helped Arjun overcome his fears and vice versa. We need to see how the picture would get completed to know the real Maya or as her name suggests "Illusion" and how and why Arjun would really love her.

I for one do not think that Arjun would ever go back to Saanjh. Once he knows Maya, he will never be able to let go of her. They would be bound together. That would be their destiny. Cause in this day and age who would want to stay married in an unhappy marriage? So Arjun would be ready to burn with Maya.

But what I would like to really see is... what would happen if Maya sees Arjun burn with her? Will she really want that? We saw the 2 lamps burning together... but we did not see it getting burned to cinders. So I believe at the penultimate moment when Maya stands at the brink with Arjun getting sacrificed will be the moment she will let the light come in... I am probably predicting too far 😃😃 and I hope the CVs surprise us.


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Posted: 8 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: TheUnique



U r right. When Saanjh after so many years of friendship feels insecure around Maya how can Maya not feel the same ! You know what puzzles me is whole mahulla knows Saanjh's love for Arjun ...why till today Ayaan has never teased her bro with Saanjh as siblings do .. y hasn't motor mouth Suman ever blabbered something on that line to Arjun while whole day she's behind her daughter to get Arjun. Why hasn't any of their neighbor never gave a passing comment to Arjun regarding Sanjh cuz in middle class residencies these things are never kept hidden. One aunty or the other will obviously spread it ...I just don't get it y Arjun never even got a hint of Saanjh's love for him ever ! The whole family is quiet free with him too ... if they can tease saanjh about it ... y didn't they do the same with Arjun ?


That's what even I'm surprised with. In all middle class society news spreads like fire & if u r so close to a guy who's your neighbors then they make stories & talk on your face either teasing or scarastically .
Suman being a blabber never slipped her mouth. Arjun is for sure duffer.
Any girl in place of maya generally feels insecure of her lover bff who's a girl & that too interested in him & wants equally as her.
Any girl wud be careful in this aspect as u can't trust being a lady urself.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: lumos_31

Maya insecurity is obviously going to surface when Arjun and Saanjh seem likely to be a couple. But when Arjun keeps choosing Saanjh over her, albeit as a friend, maya is not going to let go easily. Her insecurity will surely get the better of her. Yes Arjun is her pillar of strength and that's why she has all these feelings for him in the first place.

Maya deserves love, surely but not when that love is going to cost others. Such a love is in no way healthy. And before anything, even love, Maya needs to come to terms with the darkness in her. She needs to accept her condition, which is very difficult, tbh but not impossible. Only when she shows her real self to Arjun will he be able to truly love her, as right now Arjun is attracted to just one aspect of her personality, ie the good side. If he accepts her knowing her dark side only then can we say he loves her for real.
Sure Saanjh has had a loving family, Ayaan and Suman's support, but does that mean she deserved this heartbreak? Surely not. And maybe I got the point u were trying to put across as wrong, but if u were suggesting that Saanjh has her family's support that's why she doesn't need Arjun then I highly disagree.


We are assuming that Arjun will keep choosing Saanjh as his lover. But Arjun will definitely choose Saanjh as his protector or a friend. His love will only be Maya. Cause Maya is Jen and Jen is Beyhad so end of the day Heroine only loves the hero. So Arjun loves Maya 😆😆

Arjun takes Saanjh for granted and gets the most out of her. Yes, he cares for her but is also careless about her. So if Arjun chooses Saanjh when he is in trouble with Maya... then again Saanjh is going to be in for disappointment as Arjun is using her one more time.

Arjun is never shown as being in love with Saanjh. I am sure he will truly fall in love with Maya... but more than Maya's insecurities it is her past that is her weakness. On the contrary for Saanjh her weakness is Arjun... to the point of obsession.

There will be enough catfights between Maya and Saanjh to lure the trp aunties. My gut feeling is that Arjun will love Maya even when he gets to know about the darker side and would refuse to leave her even if she is willing to let go. Maya's injuries run too deep to heal so easily. Only fear of totally loosing Arjun after he accepts her unconditionally is what might get her to change. Provided the makers dont make Jen an out and out negative character.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: katrinasalman


@pomogranate: you have said it before I could. Saanjh is not from a rich family as far as money is concerned but she was brought up in a happy environment. Maya, on the other hand, has a troubled past and even now she is suffering. She found solace in Arjun when he saved her from Ashwin in the office. No matter however Maya is, she has got every right to live happily. She deserves a second chance. She needs a true love that can help her to overcome her inner monsters. Saanjh can get thousands of Arjuns' as she is in a normal state of mind and probably even better than him who will consider her viewpoint. But as per Maya's state of mind, she managed to get one Arjun. I don't blame Saanjh for complaining to God that her happiness is snatched but she had got plenty of opportunities to confess her feelings for Arjun. But she didn't. She has got every right to love Arjun but she can't expect him to love her back as it is up to Arjun.


Its not about Saanjh giving away Arjun to Maya. Even if Arjun leaves Maya will look at Saanjh romantically? I doubt it. Arjun from what I have seen this far has never been attracted to Saanjh. But he was shown as being attracted to Maya.

Friendship vs love is platonic vs physical love. The way things are shown Arjun does not feel for Saanjh beyond friendship. Even in that friendship, it is Saanjh who is the giver and Arjun the taker. But somehow the relationship between Maya and Arjun seems to me to be on equal footing.

So there is no question of Saanjh sacrificing her love for Arjun for him to be happy with Maya.

As for complaining to God... Its simply being stubborn. Its not just the God, but also her dad that she is going against. Sometimes life gives us what we do not want and snatches away what we desperately want... does that mean life or God is doing us a bad turn? I think not, it is only time that will tell. I always think that what is not mine was never meant to be and learn to move on.

However, if Saanjh moves on, there will be no Behyadh 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: roni_berna

Saanj has been brought up in a lovely atmosphere with such loving parents and a brother who loves her a lot. Arjun, on the other hand, felt that his step mom took away his dad from him and being an orphan, that thought kept him away from his family where he only considered his brother his own one.

Maya had very bad parents. A mother who's half insane to tolerate the father and a father who is cruel and selfish. Knowing her parents, her childhood had been the worse of all where she grew up like an orphan again but her father's torture made her even worse.


Now we don't know what's the truth of her past as I did not see Ashwin torturing her before her 9th birthday. All the suspense starts from that day and they are yet to tell us why Ashwin beat her and the mother so much. Of course, Ashwin is cruel but there are many more reasons for her behavior and one's childhood defines what kind of a person they may grow up as.


Due to Arjun feeling the same like Maya (like an orphan), they became close to each other while Saanj had everything in her life but did not get her love as somewhere she failed to understand the real Arjun. She always tried to defend Vandana but never understood her own friend and why he felt like that about his step mother. Saanj, her family and Arjun's family only felt that they are right and Saanj is the best for Arjun but nobody cared what Arjun felt about this and what's best according to him. That's why I don't feel bad for Saanj as she still doesn't understand why Arjun chose Maya over her.


Good one. You said it all.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ishakumar

Awesome post and very good for a first!!!
You have nailed the comparisons very well

Maya even though she has everything she has nothing
And even though Saanjh has nothing she has everything because so many people love her

Maya has never gotten love from anyone yet and now that she is getting care and affection from one person, people still don't want her to be happy
Whether it's her own mother even... now that she is beginning a beautiful new phase in life jhanvi has brought another problem into Maya's life
I mean like seriously? What type of mother are you?!!!

And Saanjh doesn't realize that sometimes relationships have limits and it's better to stay In those limits, because they will give you more happiness in the way they are created
Trying to force another angle of love just complicates things and no one stays happy anymore

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Thank you. Used to be a diehard fan of EDKV. Stopped posting after the show stopped.

But starting to find Beyhadh interesting. It is somewhat predictable at the moment. Once the craze for trps start... there will be no rhyme or reason and no prediction will work 😃
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Posted: 8 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: lumos_31


Dear, ur repeating urself and echoing me too in some points. Even I agree Saanjh is not angel, but I'm not even comparing her with Maya, I never did. U feel Saanjh is annoying because she interferes in their life, I ask u to give me one instance where she has knowingly interfered.
I think u shud know the difference between THEIR & HIS life better. Please read the above statement of mine. I told saanjh interference from start of his friendship with maya. When she proposed & he was friends with her. She was always on & on abt one thing lecture is 'maya loves u so don't talk or be friends on something on that terms' . I'm saying she's insecure & she wanted arjun to be away from maya. Arjun to be get out of maya's office & his job so that everything will be back to same when they were without maya. Her too much interference abt office promotion. Her annoying behavior of not giving him space from start & treating like child was annoying. He isn't a child ryt to tell what's right or wrong for him .being a frnd u warn once,twice but every time is not okay.

The proposal was indeed her stupidity, and shed be even more stupid if she's go witness the proposal knowing it is for Maya. Ever since ArYa are together, she has left them alone so how u feel she interferes in ArYa's life is beyond me 😕 still if ur annoyed that she is in almost every ArYa scene then u should go back and see for urself that it was Arjun who kept going back to her. The earring, she happened to find outside the temple. Its not like she stole Maya's earring and then on the pretext of returning it came to them. Even when ArYa were hugging on their date, she left them alone, and went away.

The good thing abt arjun is he feels saanjh as Spl frnd. And he treats her Spl. But in flight when arjun is near her even she didn't say to go back to ur maya. Only she asked arjun to spend time with Maya & leave her alone is to have her alone time to absorb the big heartbreak she got.
For me her going to Mauritius bcoz she thinks only she cud save arjun & whole team of maya cudnt was really irritating. The fit she threw her hysterical going is really unnecessary. Poor her dad had to calm her by giving her a ticket to give her a little peace mentally bcoz she is away from arjun & she cudnt be .

Maya, on the other hand couldn't let Arjun and Saanjh be on the flight. She purposely exchanged her seat, and even while she did that, she didnt let Arjun talk to Saanjh.

It's normal that any girl feels threat. It's a smart thing she did i feel rather sit & cry in corner. She is careful like saanjh warned her. Bcoz she knows if she's lil bit careless saanjh does what she warned abt. So naturally she's afraid.

Now by my above 2 points no way do I mean to compare or prove that Saanjh is an angel and Maya is a devil. But I'm trying to tell u the difference in their characters and that we indeed cannot compare them.


If u think that Saanjh won't leave ArYa alone, it's entirely ur opinion, but I will disagree, definitely.


Yes I have an opinion that's different from yours. And I think we are not needed to agree on eachother opinion.
It's upto u to think saanjh is perfect or not. It's upto me maya is mental or sane.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: SaurabhKiRadha


@lumos agree n i will repeat n add few things.

if arjun does not love maya , than this relationship should not be forced just to say that only arjun can heal . she can be part of arjun's life as frn , he can help her as special frn . she can be healed with doc probably with guy who will fall for her.

maya has really survived child trauma , i will sympathize her but not applaud because the method of survival is not right which y she has present demons . she is not fighting with them she has inhabited them n she uses them if she does not get what she wants.

saanjh is lucky compared to maya , but arjun is no 1 in list of her priority than fly.she is soulmate of arjun as frn or lover does not matter but that does not mean saanjh does not value her treasure of fly . she has very strong bond with fly which helps her to deal with this trauma.


@Radha we share the same name 😊.

Given that Arjun is the one that proposed, I am sure that he does love Maya. How deeply does he love her is the question that the show has to answer. Can he love her inspite of her past and her flaws.

When people go through trauma they would not look at the right or wrong way to survive. Only the easiest quickest way to overcome your hurt and survive will be the choice. And this way has worked so far for Maya and there was no need to change. When the need arises change she will.. Her present demons are not because of how she chose to survive. They are infact due to the very actions of her parents or others that pushed her to the zone where the only option left to her was to fight and survive or crumble and perish. So there is no right or wrong way about it.

So far all her negatives have been through Omens. The pundit, Vandana and Ayaans mishaps, Saanj's perceived sense of danger and so on. When she really did hurt someone it was herself... we can call that tendency towards suicide or self harm. Maya manipulated Arjun to make him ignore Saanjh. But no power on this earth could have made Arjun fall in love with her when there was nothing worth wile to love in her. Arjun starts loving Maya when he starts to see the vulnerable side in her. How far is what we know about Maya is really the truth is something we would need to wait and watch.

Saanjh is lucky but also unlucky. She has a strong family but ends up letting Arjun treat her like dirt. Making use of her all the time. She never stands up for herself. And when she does standup eventually... it is for Arjun or the perceived threat to him. That is something that I do not like about Saanjh. She needs to look at life beyond Arjun. In many ways Saanjh is more obsessed than Maya.

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