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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Opti

Nothing to my mind justifies the sacrifice of Hiten-Khemi relationsiop, unless the regressiveness is the only objective of this show.


No they are definitely not sacrificing........Khemi is no santu and Hiten is no DM....Khemi will walk over santu and her happiness, will feed her to moti ben like the other day to get her own happiness, and then proclaim gods intervention........and Hiten will keep opposing DM in anythign and everything he can👏

ps:The relation Hiten and Khemi share is not the only problem here. There are others things in this world like family and the Non-Romantic relations they shared with them.
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Posted: 16 years ago
boosi,
Agree with you! Hiten does not care about anyone. I suppose such attitude should be celebrated. And an attitude like Santo's which is to try and do the best you can, keep things under wraps, and think of everyone's welfare, is interference and should be avoided.
Opti,
Pls see the episodes concerning DM-Santo's wedding before you post your views about them. Looks like you have misunderstood the crux of Bandini. You yourself say that Santo chose to marry DM. That is not at all the case. And you can also see how Khemi the elder sister came to convince her younger sister to agree to marry (not DM but Mahesh who ran away so DM had to marry Santo).
We can have discussions to try and understand and/or express our views about different characters in a show. But it seems like you are 100% convinced Hiten and Khemi are right, Santo is wrong. In which case, why discuss it? You are entitled to your views. And so is everyone else. But it seems like a lot of us are posting our views here assuming we will have a good debate and discussion with many, but instead it seems to be all about convincing you. Which I am not sure is what IF is intended for.
So kindly tell us all if I am right (that you are sure Hiten and Khemi are right and see no point in discussing further), in which case, this thread can be closed.
If, on the other hand, this thread is not about your individual views on Hiten-Khemi-Santo, but you are genuinely looking to analyse both pros and cons, then I apologise for assuming otherwise. And will be happy to discuss.
No one character can be 100% flawless. DM and Santo have their faults and we will see more of that in later episodes, I am sure (we have seen enough of DM's). But right now, it is about Hiten and Khemi and I am sorry if you are hurt by the way they are being branded selfish. Writers are just trying to show that when young people are passionately in love as Hiten and Khemi are, they may lose sight of the larger picture. which is an important point to keep in mind.
Whether individual happiness is important or family honour is important is a question which vexes millions of people. It cannot be resolved in one internet forum discussion thread.
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Opti

Every religion and every culture has its own definition of what is moral and what is not and these keep changing with times. Apart from some universally accepted morals , morality that is being argued here is subjective and has nothing to do with God. In a society which accepts the marriage between uncle and his niece, such a relationship is not considered immoral although many of us may consider so. So let us not drag in God into this as these are all man-made.



that is u r way of looking at things...changingggggggggg with timesneedn't necessarily be shared by the majority😕Man made decisions will only make him to go the walls😆to his ruin!!!!!!!(most of the time..good if he suceeds) Bringing God to discuss a wordly soap😆 😆a schlock TV showcoz where such questions like moral and immoral issues arise..sure GOd will make a entry...whether one likes it or notCertain standards r antique..now how antique..I SAY THEY R ETERNAL!!!!!!!Bringing God to discuss the general way of how people look at things ceratinly will not raise my Warning level..so I am fine with it😆 I wonder who gives man the ability to make decisions???a conscience!!! to distingusih between right and wrong!!

I came to know only now that cousins marrying is wrong in certain cultures..where it is perfectly alrt in some areas..same with the uncle getting married to his niece(this is common in some areas)but nowhere a maasi and step son getting together 🤢(isn't that if we plainly look at it😆)and justifying that love knows no rules..sadly I disagree..one can argue all the toss😆 they like..but I can't be an echo chamber to strange justification....
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Posted: 16 years ago
I personally feel that the secret will be out in the mandap!!!!!!!😆 and Hiten will gladly accept the gal as his wife!!! (I feel now after that champu or chamki..sorry ..do not know the correct name...the way she is shutting Ms.Ben's gob is an indication that Hiten might after all not be the son of DMand I so want him to be DM's son..and Khemi to be some orphan brought up by nanaji..or the waghelas..

quite a twisted track ....let's see what's there in store tonight..I guess Hiten back to the village😆to be near his lady love!!!!
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Posted: 16 years ago
OMG this discussion is not going anywhere 😆😆😆

Just leave it to Ekta ma'am and let us just enjoy the show as it comes 😆😆😆

Also, we should not try to find any logic in Ekta madam's shows 😆😆😆
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: vasantha_rao07

I came to know only now that cousins marrying is wrong in certain cultures..where it is perfectly alrt in some areas..same with the uncle getting married to his niece(this is common in some areas)but nowhere a maasi and step son getting together 🤢(isn't that if we plainly look at it😆)and justifying that love knows no rules..sadly I disagree..one can argue all the toss😆 they like..but I can't be an echo chamber to strange justification....

Yes, cousins marriage and uncle-niece marriages are accetable in some cultures even if they are blood related. Result - many handicapped children are born but still these marriages go on. Aunt-nephew? (where there is no blood ties?) Well that has to be taboo.
As to society allowing it, I doubt there would be such instances in society where the Maalik's son serves sentence in the Maalkin's Maayka and falls in love the chokri's sister. So can't say.
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: Opti

Yes, cousins marriage and uncle-niece marriages are accetable in some cultures even if they are blood related. Result - many handicapped children are born but still these marriages go on. Aunt-nephew? (where there is no blood ties?) Well that has to be taboo.
As to society allowing it, I doubt there would be such instances in society where the Maalik's son serves sentence in the Maalkin's Maayka and falls in love the chokri's sister. So can't say.



My parents are first cousins and Im happy to say that none of their children are handicapped🤔
Just because cousins marry doesnt mean that their children will have some genetic disorder. Of course if the families keep inbreeding THEN that is a possibility. And if there are no blood ties then how can that marriage be a taboo?
I think the whole issue of what marriages are taboo and which ones arent is a cultural thing. So thats why some of us watching Hiten/Khemi think its fine if they get married and some of us think its not.

And anyway this is all a drama. Its not based on real life so really debating the whole Should They/ Shouldnt They is kind of a moot point.

And Maybe-Just😃 I completely love you too! In a totally non-creepy friendly way that is😉

Aisha xxx😉
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Posted: 16 years ago
I dont think i've ever been as dissapointed or angry with Santu as much as i am now. 😡
N i could undertand why sum ppl are annoyed abt the bhanja-maasi angle of this story but even Santu seems to be more focused on the choti-zyaat manglik Khemi part of this.....n in a way i guess that is wat has made relations in this drama so confused, how can we be this worked up over the bhanja or maasi when i cant think of any previous times in the drama when they have been acknowledged as such? The whole village has seemed to realize that the marriage between Santu and DM was for his convenience itself and held only face-value, n that the same goes for "relationships" forged between her family and his.
I was never really a fan of Hiten and Khemi until i realized how strong and silent their luv has been. They truly represent an ocean which will stay calm and at peace until it is forced to crash its waves n as a result cause destruction.
If these two had been understood by their own families and not pushed so much into the wrong relations, they wud not have had to fight so hard in todays episode. While Santu is being the forever godly statue of honour, she has forgotten that the decisions she is making are affecting real people who are suffering becuase of wat she is doing, n that they are not rocks which can be discarded just because they get under the 'malik's foot'.
She forever lectures Khemi on forgetting her sanskaars when she forgets that Khemi was the one who taught her the importance of these sanskaara in the first place. Yes today Hiten did act irrationally when he was speaking to Santu but how could anyone expect him to keep quiet when he's at his wits end trying to save his life, Khemi's life and Shambhu's life from being destroyed.....he is human and has his faults so we cannot expect him to be as godly as Santu is just becuase he is a good character.
The same goes for Khemi, she is a person who has real feelings. Even wen she put that necklace on, it was her attempt to find some proper sign from destiny because that is what her character has turned to (destiny) in these times when even her family has left her side.
It is because their love is pure that they're fighting so hard for it. Santu cannot justify killing her sister's happiness or hiten's by claiming she knows what she's doing is the best for them-she is younger, more naive and as Hiten put it has never fallen in love (although her feelings towards DM are maturing) so how can she know wat is best for the two of them when she hasn't even tried to put herself in their position?
Urghh, 😕 i just want these two to get married n not to be punished over a love that they have no power over or cannot tame so that they story can move on to something i've been dying to know about-Motiben's secret!
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Posted: 16 years ago
Seriously guys... Do you guys really think Hiten and khemi are NOT being selfish? Or is it just because you like their pair and so everything they are doing is right?

They are just dumb idiots that fell in love with each other. I am not opposed to their love, but they should have admitted it to each other LONGGGGGGGGGG before..

Hiten kept on hinting and askin khemi 1000 of times and she kept on lecturing how her people don't fall in love and that she is happy.. Hiten kept on hoping that she would say: No Hiten i Love u 🤢.. if you are hoping to hear that, why don't you just say it FIRST!! The girl is being hooked up with someone else DUH she won't say she loves you, so be a MAN and confess your love..

Why is he now suddenly all confident and stubborn to make her his? Just because he now HEARED her saying she loves him? He could have just admitted his feelings and if it wasn't the way she felt than too BAD but at least he tried! In that way his act wouldnt be as selfish and cowardly as it is now!

And i hate how they always show in drama's that people start disrespecting their bloodrelations for the ones they love.. Khemi just prooved she has no spine.. If she loves Hiten so much she should have openend her mouth and should have said to Motiben: Your beloved HITEN gave it to me very well knowing it is for his futuru wife, he want's me to be his wife.. And not say Santo gave it Santo gave it..

And HITEN? He insults Santo in such idiotic way? Did he forget everything SANTO did for his family? He doesn't respect her but is utterly attracted to his sister? He should first start showing some respect towards his parents before opening his big mouth.


AND BESIDES THIS ALL: When a woman and a man marry each other and both hve children from different people, the children won't have any blood relation ship but the world and their parents WILL see them as a brother and a sister.. NO way a relationship between a stepsister and stepbrother would be justified.. And so is the same with a Step Maasi and a Step Bhanja..Believe it or not this IS the relationship these two lovebirds share.

But still i could overlook this, because yess it isn't their fault they share the same age and Santo got married to a old man.

But overall i think: JUST because two people are great on screen and share a great chemistry DOESN"T justify everything they do.......


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Posted: 16 years ago
Aisha,
Agree with you. Hiten asked Khemi a million times. Each time,she gave the same dialogue. More than Hiten, she has done wrong. She wronged 2 men- Shambu by agreeing to marry him and leading him to believe she liked him, and Hiten, by lying to him about her love for him.

It is not healthy to suggest to young people that suddenly someone you barely know but have strong feelings for is more important than those who have known you and brought you up and fed you and clothed you and educated you and all...

Instead of fighting the family, and insulting one's father and step-mother, and accusing a perfectly good sister of untrue things, Hiten and Khemi should think how they can get the family to be on their side. They act like they told their families a year ago and the families didn't agree!

Such depictions will only strengthen views of conservative parents in India who think 'love' is a sin, and will also mislead young people who think 'love' is great! Neither of these views are perfect. Life is a challenge and young people need family support to succeed in marriage. Falling in love is the easiest part. Parents/elders also need to listen to young people. Such tracks hardly help!

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