Maulik has a point!

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Hi everyone,
This comes out of Maulik questioning DM in yesterday's episode about why Hiten is favoured. I do not forgive Maulik's drunken behaviour or his insults to DM and Santo (why does he refer to her as 'choti jaati'? Do young educated people talk like this in India? I wud really like to know).

But Maulik has a point.

I mean, why is Hiten being celebrated so much? What exactly did he do for the family? When his father remarried, he walked out. We the audience knew Santo is a good girl, but he didn't. He should have stayed on, to make sure the step-mother is nice to his little siblings. DM is different. Another man could have fallen head-over-heels for such a young wife and completely forgotten his family, right?

It was Maulik actually who said that now that the marriage has happened, it is better to accept it and move on. For once, Maulik was right.

Hiten is equally at fault for not correcting Maulik. He almost died, being falsely implicated for cow-murder, but instead of telling Maulik he is wrong, he tells DM, 'thats between us brothers. we will sort it out'. Like they did!

And when Maulik runs away, Hiten turns up to do the sentence. Basically to spite his dad. What good came of it? Nothing. The younger brother learnt nothing, did not repent.

When invited for Kaddu's egagement, Hiten does not come. Why is he attending all functions now if he could not attend then because of the punishment? He made no attempt to talk to Kaddu, find out what her problem is. He is her brother after all, the eldest son!

Even with the whole Avinash-Sandeep thing, Hiten did nothing. Simply went back to the village. The most preoccupying issue for him is Khemi, not his father, or his sister. He should have gone to Shashank and asked him to reconsider his decision. Wouldn't any elder brother do that?

I am not defending Maulik's drinking. Maulik clearly has major issues, and has been spoilt by Motiben. But I see no reason why Hiten should be favoured by DM.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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totally agree with you!
Good points, all are valid!
I did not like the fact that Hiten was praised for the whole diamond issue when it was Santo who did it all!
I felt really sorry for Maulik and his situation. What he said was true, first he always looked bad because of Hiten and because of Santo (which is not true but I can understand what he means).
I agree that Motiben has smothered Maulik and he even thinks like her about lower class and all. I hope things turn for the better and Maulik does not become the new villan in the serial.
I am looking forward to Santo's role in all of this and also Hiten's involvement to bring his younger brother on the right track. I think the Hiten -Khemi love story will take a backseat until the Maulik issue is resovled.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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i am sorry tvrasika,but did not expect u were having such a selective memory
u said maulik is right bcoz he is not getting his rights.i think u first have to fulfill ur duties and responsibilities to complain ur not getting ur rights.
maulik's complain no 1.
I WAS NOT SENT TO ADVERB FOR THE BUSINESS DEAL
i agree maulik is a good businessman.he chose to stay mum and even fill dm's ears knowing his brother hiten was being hanged for the crime he has done.had he stayed mum bcoz of fear,it would have been considered.but he had the guts to even fill dm's ears so that dm does not change is decision and maulik is not only proved innocent but the sole successor of the whole property as suraj is very small.(if u remember maulik had gone to dm and made sweet talks saying he would have understood his father's position if he had been at hiten's place).apart from this.gow-hatya was an accident but khemi's kidnapping was well planned.maybe he was to not intended to kill khemi,but what would have he done if his fellow kidnappers had caused a harm to her?
maulik very well knows how to convert his nuksaan into a munaafa,even if the sauda puts other's life on stake.
maulik's complaint no 2
SAZA KYUN?AUR HITEN BHAI NE KYUN KATI?
why did he run away after being covnvicted?he was happy when hiten was to be hanged till death and he himself couldnt even live a villager's life.as for hiten,let me tell you tvrasika we are not antaryami's who would come to know in advance that all our efforts will go in vain.koshish karna hamara dharam hain.wo hamare haath mein hain.safalta milna na milna hamare bas mein nahi hain.hiten did the same thing.he tried to make his brother repent,are u blaming him for that?or are u blaming hiten bcoz he did not succeed.
he fell moongi in a well accidently in a hangover.but he purposely ran away from there.pls tell me what would have happened to moongi if santu had not come?
maulik's complaint no 3
I WAS SNEAKING IN MY SISTERS'S SAGAI
doosre ki maa samaan gaay ko mar daala,saza mili to ghar chod kar bhag gaya,apne sage bhai ko faasi ke takhte tak pahucha diya.AAJ JIS BEHEN KA PYAARA BHAI BAN KAR RO RAHA HAIN,KYA GUARANTEE HAIN KI AGAR HITEN KI JAGAH KADDU BHI HOTI TO USKE LIYE TO WO WAHI FAASI KA TAKHTA TAYYAR NAHI KARTA?
APNE KARMO KI SAZA SABKO MILTI HAIN.USE BHI MILI.ISME KYA BADI BAAT HAIN?
MAULIK KA GUNAAH
santu saved him from death sentence despite losing her mother(or u can say gaay if u want).santu was the person who took him to airport so that he can meet megna and things can be sorted out.santu was the person who hid the fact from dm that when maulik threw moongi in the well,he was DRUNK. FORGET ABOUT THE OBLIGATION HE ABUSED SANTU AS CHOTI JAATI KI LADKI 4-5 TIMES.is duniya mein maa shabd se bada kuch nahi,maybe maulik cannot accept santu as his mother but ABUSING her for all her obligations on him?
HITEN
i dont remember if in the whole story hiten has ever got a hint about kaddu's affair.morever in came into light after hiten moved to village.HOW CAN U EXPECT HIM TO REACT WHEN HE DIDNT KNOW ANYTHING?DIDNT HE CAME AND SIT WITH KADDU AFTER THE WEDDING BROKE AND TELL HIM HER BROTHER IS STILL ALIVE AND SHE DOESNT HAVE TO WORRY?
AS FOR WHAT HITEN HAS DONE,HE HAS SAVED DHARAMPUR,THOUGH HE WAS NOT A TRAINED KAARIGAR HE TOOK THE CHALLENGE.HAAN USSE GALTI HO GAYI.KISSE NAHI HOTI?
BUT HE DIDNT RUN AWAY LIKE MAULIK TO ESCAPE HIS GUILT.USNE GAAV WAALO KE SAATH MILKAR APNI GALTI KO SUDHARA AND DHARAMPUR KO BHI BACHAYA.
HE LEFT THE HOUSE,BUT DID U EVER SEE ABUSING OR DOING WRONG WITH ANYBODY INCLUDING SANTU?
THEREFORE HE HAS THE FULL RIGHT TO BE CELEBRATED
MAULIK KA POINT YE HAIN KI USE APNI GALTIYA AUR GUNAAH NAHI SIRF SAZA YAAD HAIN JO KI AAM TAUR PAR HAR BURA INSAAN YAAD RAKHTA HAIN.
IF U ARE STILL WITH MAULIK'S POINT,I REALLY DONT HAVE A COUNTER ANSWER TO THIS
Edited by payalgarg - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Payal,
We are talking across each other I think. We can go round and round in circles about what are Maulik's faults and what are Hiten's faults, and since Maulik has no good points so far, we can discuss Hiten's good points. It will never end...

What I was trying to say was, hinting at the larger picture. DM has a problem with each of his kids, the adult ones I mean. The Kaddu matter is solved, for now. We don't know why Hiten is upset with DM. We have not been given any explanation. We have been shown enough evidence abut Maulik being the black sheep of the family. But what most people don't do is sit and listen to what the black sheep has to say... before things get worse. There is always a point where, if a parent listens to the child, then some things can be corrected.

Malik's grouse is that Hiten is being favoured. I do think DM favours Hiten and I am not very clear why.

Has Hiten treated anyone badly? Not really. No. He didn't think it was wrong for Santo be in the storeroom. But other than that, and other than saying some horrid things to his dad, he has not done anything wrong like Maulik. Maulik clearly needs a big kick!

I am not very convinced about Hiten not knowing anything about Kaddu's affair and therefore being unable to help. That's a lame excuse. The first thing a brother would do if his sister has been humiliated the way Kaddu was, is to go and punch the guy who humiliated her (at the least)! Help sister gain her reputation back. Help dad get his reputation back. Not return to the village and announce he will see how his dad interferes with Khemi's marriage to Shambu! That is not the most important issue for his family, is it?

As for Hiten saving Dharampur, frankly, my understanding is that he tried but didn't succeed. He broke the diamond into two, and then threw it away! Who throws away diamonds? It was Santo and DM who ultimately managed to finish the task. Ofcourse Hiten did not run away. We also should remember how he dealt with Virat. Maulik, if he had been there, would have switched sides instantly!

I have nothing against Hiten the character or Mrunal Jain the actor. I am just saying that we should be shown more clearly what is it that makes DM favour Hiten. And the larger picture of what happens when parents favour one child over another. Maulik needs help, not the kind that Motiben has been giving. But some serious step... I was not happy that Hiten hid the fact of Maulik pushing Moongi into the well from DM. He should tell his dad. His younger brother is going in the wrong direction and it is the elder brother's duty to do something about it...

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Posted: 16 years ago
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tvrasika,
u said that since Maulik has no good points so far, we can discuss Hiten's good points. It will never end...
but as per your arguement in the thread so far it is very clear that since Maulik has no good points so far, we should discuss some of hiten's bad points also,even if he doesnt have any. It will never end...
according to the storyline hiten never knew about kaddu's affair.if u want u construct ur own story,u can always do it.i believe a word of mouth is equal to a thousand slaps.hiten insulted sandeep and asked him to leave the house in front of so many people.i think it was enough for a brother to show his care for his sister.
as far as maulik is concerned i dont think u can talk with somebody who keeps a ear bud in his ear when it comes to his doings.be it a father son relationship.
as far as favouring hiten is concerned if u think appreciating a child is favouring him against the other what do i say?yes.i understand the other child is always complaining about this bcoz he wants free lunches and all the love and affection without fulfilling his responsibilities.
there are some issues hiten has with dm.but that does not ruin his father's prestige.there can be 100 excuses for hiten mahiyawanshi to return him from the village.that means all this saza is actually a drama?
I AGREE WITH YOU ON 1 POINT THAT DM IS A TOTALLY IRRESPONSIBLE PERSON.USKO SIRF DHARAMPUR KA MAALIK BANNA AATA HAIN JABKI SABSE JYADA ADHARM USKE KHUD KE GHAR MEIN HOTA HAIN(EXAMPLE SANTU).
but that does not grant maulik the permission to ruin everybody's life ie..santu,moongi,khemi and HITEN and then expect eveybody to behave as if nothing has happened

Edited by payalgarg - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Payal,
I am sorry... this is going in a direction I am not comfortable with. So I will just say one thing- I did not say ever that DM is an irresponsible person. He is the hero of this story. He cannot be 'irresponsible'!
Enough said..
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Posted: 16 years ago
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oh ya??
well i think he is the most irresponsible person on earth
DEKHA JAAYE TO SABSE JYADA ADHARAM TO DHARAMPUR KE MAALIK AUR SADEV DHARAM KA SAATH DENE WAALE DHARAMRAAJ MAHIYAWANSHI KE APNE GHAR MEIN HI HOTA HAIN.WO KHUD ADHARM KARTA BHI HAIN AUR ADHARM HONE BHI DETA HAIN.
ADHARM NO 1
,he married an 18 year old girl santu just for the sake of his contract and bcoz of his gurus's advice who said aisi kundli kai varsho mein ek baar milti hain and that the girl wud bring prosperity to him.she came in the house as a ladder to his prosperity.didnt such a so called mature person think even once that he was building up all this over an innocent girl's life?her dreams?her wishes?was this NYAAY?
he said he saved a girl's life by doing this.HUH! MANN KO SAMJHANE KE LIYE KHAYAL ACHA HAIN!
mr dharamraaj aapko nahi lagta apni umar ke 3 bacho ki maa aur apne se 3 gune umar bade BOODHE ki patni jab wo bani,wo usi waqt mar gayi thi?ya phir aapko lagta tha ki apne nanaji ke yahan agar wo zindagi bhar kanwari baithi rehti to uski zindagi isse jyada badtar hoti?(which wud not have happened as some nice guy wud have definitely held her hand,we still have people who marry widows,then what's wrong with our young santu getting married?for example this shaadi tootna wud not have been a BIG PROB FOR duggu to accept santu)
ADHARM NO 2
in dm's knowledge santu lived in that kothri in which even cockroaches couldnt sleep.she was insulted in front of dm every moment.PLS MR MAHIYAWANSHI TELL ME USE KIS GUNAAH KI SAZA DE RAHE THE AAP?OH! GOT IT!USKA GUNAAH YE THA AAPKA PASAND KIYA GAYA LADKA MANDAP PAR NAHI PAHUCHA,SO U HAD TO REPENT FOR IT.LEKIN ITNA BADA DIAMOND MERCHANT YE CHOTE CHOTE KAAM KHUD NAHI KARTA!ISILIYE AAPKI JAGAH SANTU SAZA BHUGHAT RAHI HAIN.RIGHT!
ADHARM NO 3
TARULATA,who doesnt even want to remember she was not born with a golden spoon in her mouth.for her santu is not even a animal who can be pampered if she does something good.santu had the main role in mending that tooota heera and saving dharampur.but for MOTIBEN she worth Rs 100 for this.no wonder she is an unwedded BUDDHI.PATA NAHI APNE PATI KI KYA KEEMAT LAGATI.her untolerable violence on santu without any reason may be hidden from dm but the language she uses
to talk to her is not hidden.PAR WO KYUN BEECH MEIN PADE?DHARAMPUR MEIN KITNA ANYAAY HO RAHA HAIN,USE DEKHEGA YA APNE GHAR KE PACHDE SAMBHALTA RAHEGA DHARAMPUR KA MAALIK!!!
i agree that now dm has started behaving properly with santu.but he has never realized what he has done and how he ruined santu's life?whenever he wants he shows santu the door(which he has done 2 time till now,once when sooraj got locked and the next time when kaddu'd marriage broke ).MR MAHIYA WANSHI WO AAPKI KOI KHAREEDI HUI CHEEZ NAHI HAI JISE AAP APNI MARZI SE GHAR MEIN LAAYE AUR PHIR KAAM HO JAANE PAR FEKH DE(jaise ki aap karna chahte the kyonki aapka kaam to ho gaya.usse shaadi karke aap mahaan bhi ban gaye aur order bhi poora ho gaya.).DO U KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THIS THING IS DISCLOSED IN FRONT OF THE WHOLE DHARAMPUR?SANTU NEVER TOLD ANYONE.PAR KISI KI SHARAFAT KA NAAJAYAZ FAYDA TO MAT UTHAO.
1 more thing i dont think dm ne santu ki zindagi bachayi hai.balki santu ne do baar dm,dharampur aur uske diamond firm ko bachaya hai.SORRY MOTIBEN.SORRY DM.BUT THIS IS THE TRUTH!
Just by raising his hand to stop other's discussions,wearing a butterscotch color kurta,being called dharampur ka maalik and saying daffod he does not become the hero of the story.
if we recall the first episode madhav solanki was ousted from the village bcoz his dohitri entered the mandir befofe dm.what was wrong in it?what does the person think of himself?from the first episode i couldnt gather a single instance where DHARAMPUR KE MAALIK NE NYAAY KIYA HO.he shud sit in think what effect his decision has on other's lives.they respect him.but dm rules them
STOP IT DM.PLS STOP IT.NOBODY IS RESPONSIBLE.U ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING.EVERTHING!!
Edited by payalgarg - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Hey payal...ur points r really gud...bt yes if u ol remember...Maulik used 2 take money frm DM d wrong way..he made dose false slips sayin he deposited dese money cheques 2 a charitable trust😡....DM lost his trust in maulik afta d incident....hw cn he hand over the business to such a son??😲
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: kritika4eva

Hey payal...ur points r really gud...bt yes if u ol remember...Maulik used 2 take money frm DM d wrong way..he made dose false slips sayin he deposited dese money cheques 2 a charitable trust😡....DM lost his trust in maulik afta d incident....hw cn he hand over the business to such a son??😲

i have already said above that maulik is good for nothing and his comparsion with hiten is simply unreasonable
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Hey Rasika,

Your topic is absolutely fair.. Maulik, has a right to be offended by his fathers seemingly partial behavior toward Hiten.. While Maulik himself hasn't done anything great, nor has Hiten.. The only reason, I can think of for DM acknowledging Hiten more than Maulik is that Hiten stands up for things he believes in, while Maulik tries to, erm, suck up to DM.. Hiten comes off as arrogant while Maulik spineless.. What Maulik cant understand is that, while Hiten only goes against his father and does things to aggravate him and Maulik does everything in his power to please him, it is always Hiten who gets appreciated. While Maulik gets the dirty treatment. Maulik has done his fair share of wrong, but Hiten is not completely blameless.. He has done enough of damage on his own as well, and is continuing to do so, if you can get my drift..

@ Payal, This topic is just a comparison between Maulik and Hiten.. Please donot bring DM into it.. And please refrain from using caps as it means that you are yelling..

And how can his comparison with Hiten be unreasonable, they are brothers after all.. And like anyother character, Hiten is flawed as well..

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