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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sidra08

For last time i am saying for God's sake i said about changing dynamics of her love With one of her love she has no problem in touching shoucing and kissing with other she has she was No saurabh I am saying this you are telling about Jagya was conscious She was not Saurabh send this sms to her Here most of us expected seeing her behavior with Jagya she might go get physical with her new love Saurabh and he will kick her out later since he is a fraud but this didn't happen because cvs changed her character over night This we are talking from where consciousness came in here and she didn't drug Jagya


OKK okk relax ,i got what your saying ,but i dont feel her character is being changed ,she was different with jagya becoz she really liked him ,and most importantly she was about to marry him in month ,it was official while her equation with saurabh ,its not official yet ,she does like him,spending time with him,but its not official ,she is yet on her way in discovering her feelings for saurabh,thats the reason she was uncomfortable .This is my understanding of sanchi s character regarding this.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tanvismile



OKK okk relax ,i got what your saying ,but i dont feel her character is being changed ,she was different with jagya becoz she really liked him ,and most importantly she was about to marry him in month ,it was official while her equation with saurabh ,its not official yet ,she does like him,spending time with him,but its not official ,she is yet on her way in discovering her feelings for saurabh,thats the reason she was uncomfortable .This is my understanding of sanchi s character regarding this.

bold and may i know the reason why she was enjoying Sunny rubbing her shoulder thinking Jagya was doing so ? At that time the marriage was not fixed in even viewers dreams ?At that time she knew she will marry him in a month No and she said now such things look good only after marriage so what is point of marrying in a month in this ? when her views are such things ony suit after marriage so why despo to do them pre marriage no matter you are marrying in a month to same guy ??The point is she does not mind the guy she loves touch her , neither she minds kissing all that so her behavior for Saurabh is going out of her character Cvs did change her character

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: blushing




Exactly...physical assault on women shd not be justified accepted...


so whether it is Marital Assault or Even on S*X worker without consent any physical assault is not at all justified


Even in Jail Women who is punished for her crime if this Assault happened with her it is consider as Crime too

That time we can't say That Women is Criminal and punished so she does not deserve Symphony or care


Completely agree, Rape can not be used as a tool to punish bad women for their crimes 🤢 not even when they are involved in crimes like murders or drugs selling.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#34
all is blame to here whether it is anandi shekhars or sanchi . all like sanchi anandi and shekhars doing same mistake again and again .none of these learn from mistake and doing blunder again and again
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sidra08

bold and may i know the reason why she was enjoying Sunny rubbing her shoulder thinking Jagya was doing so ? At that time the marriage was not fixed in even viewers dreams ?At that time she knew she will marry him in a month No and she said now such things look good only after marriage so what is point of marrying in a month in this ? when her views are such things ony suit after marriage so why despo to do them pre marriage no matter you are marrying in a month to same guy ??The point is she does not mind the guy she loves touch her , neither she minds kissing all that so her behavior for Saurabh is going out of her character Cvs did change her character

Well i would just say that it not necessary be change of character ,there are many reasons for behaving like that,like her passion was jagya was much more that she even made tatto of his name on her,which is not same in case of saurabh right !
And may be saurabh was not a love,it was a way of making herself look important in her eyes,i mean she always thought very high of herself that she coudnt face rejection from jagya so saurabh was someone who was giving a lot of importance,she may not liked him from inside and she is very immature to understand herself first.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tanvismile

i feel very sorry for her irrespective of what kind of girl she is .But like everyone said its difficult to sympathise with a girl like sanchi,in real life also if a girl who was wearing short dressess ,drink alcohol ,becomes a victim of rape .WHO WOULD SYMPATHISE WITH THAT GIRL,INFACT PEOPLE WOULD BLAME HER ONLY ,INSTEAD OF SYMPATHISING PLUS HERE SANCHI IS A CURRENT VILLIAN OF SHOW.In jaitser and udaipur if people come to know ,people will point fingers to sanchi character due to her past doings,like coming drunk to parties held by kalyani ,insulting them.

Sanchi is going the learn the biggest lesson of life and now realise the imp of anandi and her family ,last what she did was fake suicide attempt,i woudnt be shocked if this time she tries to kill herself in real.

Yes it is very difficult to feel too much sympathy for Sanchi,not because she was wearing short dress
Or drinking alchohol but she tried to ruin the lives of others deliberately. If given a chance will
Continue to do so. she has absolutely no regard for any one. Feeling no symathy for Sanchi should not be construed as we are appauding the rape and trying to be a defense lawyer for the rapist Saurab. Unfortunately there is too much tirade
And Personal attacks and bashing on members whose heart just does not bleed for Sanchi. This is the first reaction
Of people . But as days pass people will see her in a different light and her victim status will
Take over and they will sympathise with her.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: Bul3

I am not taking away the fact that Saurabh is totally and fully responsible for the rape. But at the same time Sanchi is at fault of getting in such a situation..she is not responsible for getting raped but she is responsible for getting herself in such a situation..Do you think if she was just saved in the nick of time by Anandi you would not blame Sanchi for getting in such a situation where she could have even got raped!!BUT now since rape actually took place we are forced to look at it in a way where Sanchi is wrong for nothing..We all have seen Sanchi's character from the start and are fully aware of what kind of a person she is ..Don't you agree that BV makers just brought in the rape scenario for giving a message and bailing Sanchi's character which had gone to the lowest levels possible..frankly as how I saw Sanchi's character she would have succumbed to Saurabh's pressure but just because CVs did not had the guts to show it that way, they chose this rape situation..They have conveniently got away with such things before and I really feel they use viewers at the name of social message where they always play with social issues as they are some trp gaining games..It would be much better if they chose to show how girls cross the boundaries in the name of love when they are just being used and that could have been well Sanchi's redemption's start..but that would be showing what really happens in today's world..And CVs just cannot have it the right way because they had to show it in a way which just makes people believe that girls who go to parties and who drink end up being raped.. They just wanted to blame the culture of partying and girls giving freedom misusing it..its like khap panchayat where girl is at fault of anything bad happening to her..More that Sanchi's character I am against BV makers for using wrong means to justify a message which is in heads of many people..I am open-minded enough to understand that what you are saying is right and nobody but the rapist is responsible for rape but here what the message is given to the masses is that victim is responsible also..BV should not have shown it that way..

I am not disregarding the fact that it was Sanchi who with her stupidity put herself in a situation which makes her vulnerable to attacks from the likes of Saurabh.
I don't know whether the CVs are bailing her out of by putting her in this situation.Earlier also she was nearly raped by Sunny and gang but she was rescued in the nick of time by J and she did not mend her ways.She continued with her bad decisions in the name of taking her life into her hands and the way she was going on with her life it doesn't really come as a surprise that she ended up in a situation like this.The way she needed to learn a lesson was when the trust she placed in Saurabh is broken.If Anandi and Shiv managed to rescue her in the nick of time I don't know how long she would have stayed in line before going back to her old ways.So she did need a lesson which is life shattering.There is saying wise people learn from other's mistakes and fools learn by making their own mistakes and Sanchi is stubborn on top of being a fool so it takes more harsh lessons from life.But still they could have avoided rape and used some other means.
Or may be the CVs wanted to use this to bring men like Saurabh into focus who drug their girl friends to make them compliant and post the videos at P**N sites.🤢
Edited by aparnauma - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: Jan50

Yes it is very difficult to feel too much sympathy for Sanchi,not because she was wearing short dress
Or drinking alchohol but she tried to ruin the lives of others deliberately. If given a chance will
Continue to do so. she has absolutely no regard for any one. Feeling no symathy for Sanchi should not be construed as we are appauding the rape and trying to be a defense lawyer for the rapist Saurab. Unfortunately there is too much tirade
And Personal attacks and bashing on members whose heart just does not bleed for Sanchi. This is the first reaction
Of people . But as days pass people will see her in a different light and her victim status will
Take over and they will sympathise with her.

I dint personally attack anyone ,yes i felt bad for her irrespective of what her character,infact i even called her villian of the show in CAPS ,i havnt personally attacked any member whose heart doesnt bleed for sanchi ,nways i guess u felt like that i dnt know how
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Tanvi, i was not refering to you. You did not attack any body. In fact i like your post.you have been
Very balanced and echoed some of our thoughts.Even when you defered from us,there was no antagonism
From you.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I don't think

it is a track to show only 'bad' girls r punished this way...they have shown rape happening with 'good' girl Ganga , so no i do not think bad or good is the issue here

i don't think its a track to show urban girls r bad ccoz they did show the same problem with rural girl Ganga , so no i don't think its urban vs rural at all

i don't think its sending any message that the magnitude of not listening to elders should be as terrible as rape

i don't think they r sending any message that a girl like SaanchI deserves rape , that rape is deserved by some women

i think they r simply showing what can happen in an urban setting .

just as a girl can be attacked when she is alone at night

similiarly date rape can happen to youth , thats all .


Date rape is a throbbing issue in the West and it has caught on like fire in urban settings in India too , who is not at all behind in learning clever techniques from the West .

In rural india child rape is there as child marraiges incredibly still take place .

In urban India the possibility of date rape is there due to conducive atmosphere .

BV tackled both the issues , they simply want to show it ...where it happens and how it happens thats all .

Saurabh must be punished . And i hope he will be . All that anger that Shiv showed on Jagya when he dumped his sister must be three fold in magnitude now coz

Jagya SAVED his sister from rape

Saurabh RAPED her .

But i hope , while showing the case on Saurabh they show others taking responsibility too .

Ira has already taken it and i appreciate that . She admitted that over indulgence in raising Saanchi , constantly pampering her each mistake as 'bachpana' ultimately led her to be spoilt and out of control and defiant .

Actually whole family did it ...even Daddu . Its a family of army men but the disciplined ones r only the males .

I think what BV is showing is not the fact that the magnitude of not listening to elders ought to be rape but that there r 2 ways to learn in life

by pondering over ur past mistakes and listening to advices of those with life experience

or with your own experience . That is the hard way .




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