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Posted: 12 years ago
#41
Some people like contradicting themselves. First they insinuate that Jagya is a loser and then they back track.

If Anandi is such a winner why didn't she introspect and see where she went wrong. She never once admitted she was wrong but always blamed Bal Vivah. At least now Jagya has owned up to his mistakes and is trying to make good. Anandi never owned up that maybe she should have acted sooner or spoken up sooner. It's all very well to say losers blame others and winners blame themselves but again, everything is grey and everything is dependent on perceptions.

So too with the analogy of a tree versus a vine...it is not necessary to always look at a vine with a negative connotation. Each has their own advantages. A tree could also grow crooked. A tree's roots could also invade a garden and damage the foundation of a home. Perception is everything.

Oh yes, Anandi does have a CLEARER picture of the situation in COMPARISON to the other players. That is the statement in its FULL context.

About trying to speak up, she went about it in a half assed way. She never attempted to tell her own Maayka waalas her reservations. She was quick to approach Jagya today with a sense of entitlement to know where he was but why couldn't she tell him her reservations with the same ownership.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#42
When Jagya left her she did introspect and came to conclusion that she is not a woman enough for any man that there was something wrong with her that's why her husband left her.
Some other man had to work really really hard to make her believe that it is not the fault of her hands which smelled masala but her husband had developed a liking for hands which smelled of expensive perfume.
There is nothing wrong with a clinging vine and clinging vine choses the best support available in order to survive why curse the support for doing the job which it was meant to do?
Why not blame the vine for choosing that support?

As for speaking up she would have been damned if she did damned if she didn't.
On one hand they say she is interfering then they say why she is not doing anything or why is she doing it when it is so late.
As for following Jagya and questioning about his disappearance she is the one with stakes in both families . She is the one who gets affected in both cases. She will be worried.

As for sense of entitlement Jagya who gave it to her by agreeing to get married for her sake and by asking her to find a bride for him.

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Posted: 12 years ago
#43
Here comes one more analysis about tree vine to defend the two timing of anandi.
If jagya is not a strong personality why did he set a goal in his life to become a doctor worked hard studied for the entrance exam and secured a seat at one of countries best institutes. I guess the tree anandi studied in place of jagya and wrote the entranc exam also in place of jagya and jagya the vine took the seat. From childhood jagya always opposed the atrocities of DS against anandi. But, anandi always suppressed those feelings of jagya giving the name of family. Jagya opposed DS when she wanted to stop anandi's studies. But anandi let DS do it and didnot let jagya and bhairo let her help. Jagya took the stand for phooli when DS was being mean to her, but again anandi mata intervened and stop him. Even when jagya wanted to be a doctor it was anandi mata who has to ontervene and convince the family. Whenever jagya wanted to become strong anandi comes in as khabeeb me haddi and stops him. I remember one time when jagya was playing with some video games and bhairo was soo upset with jagya, anandi didnot let bhairo punish him and saved him. Anandi always interfered in the parenting of jagyas parents. Happenning from childhood. Yes, anandi was the biggest hurdle on the way for jagya to become strong. Sumitra always took anandi's side from childhood. She always loved anandi more than jagya. A person becomes strong or weak because of the environment they grow in and the people around him. Here in case of jagya there was always anandi suppressing him and not letting him grow stronger. So, how will jagya grow stronger??
As the great analysis goes you don't need to be a great tree to lead a regular life. you just need to have a normal childhood with no one bullying and suppressing you to become stronger.
Anandi is jagyas weakness??? Where did jagya running ro anandi all the time and asking her help. He is asking her to go her life when she keeps running to him.
Yes, jagya is anandi's weakness .. That why she keeps running to her true love at the drop of a hat. If jagya is her weakness then why did she marry shiv. Did someone put a gun at her head ??
After the leap when jagya and anandi were introduced.. Jagya was instantly accepted with his charming personality and great screen presence. To make anandi acceptable gauri angle was introduced and jagya and gauri character butchered so anandi can become mahaan and people accept her. Same thing is happeneing again. To make new anandi acceptable making all the characters behave weird and making everyone confide their secrets to anandi like pundit talking about the muhurat date to anandi, lalsingh telling about Ganga's feelings to anandi, jagya telling about his heart bleed to anandi. All this is to make the new anandi acceptable. History is repeating in bv world, they will go any extent to make anandi mahaan. When shiv was introduced they made jagya negative beyond logic even went to the extent of doing the vibhoodhi thing when Bhago died to make shiv mahaan. This is what this serial is about butcher any character without any sense or logic to make anandi and shiv mahaan.
People coming up with Great analysis...which ever suits to defend anandi...
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Posted: 12 years ago
#44
So, anandi did not find a coup,e of minutes to pick up the phone and call jagya and let him know that her inlaws are coming with sanchis proposal. But chooses to remain silent when she comes with her inlaws for the proposal. If she remains silent it means she is in approval do the proposal and jagya is in approval of whatever anandi is in approval of. The whole cause of the problems right now is anandi and only anandi and no one else. Right now, she created the problem, then she will solve the problem and become mahan again. Great anandi ki jai ho..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Jagya gave her that authority only after SHE left her bidaai and ran after him. He did not seek her out to find a marriage partner for him. She broached the subject of marriage with him after instigation by DS. She could have refused DS. Why blame Jagya now for that. In fact, even after Jagya agreed to her request for remarriage, he still maintained with his family that he was not ready for marriage.

It's good that you see nothing wrong with a vine but its also necessary to accede that trees are not perfect either.

The very fact that she has stakes in both families should spur her to act more precisely rather than with a lack of gumption. As mentioned before, she never once approached her 'maayka' about her reservations.

Her 'interference' is more to set the stage for the conflict about to come between her and Shiv with regards to the fallout with Jagya and Saanchi. Rather than approaching her husband with concise arguments about what she overheard Saanchi tell her friends and now with what Jagya means by suffocation, she chooses to be obtuse about it. It's all a ploy to drag it so that she will come in at the last minute as the so called solution provider or saviour and have the Eureka moment of Jagya and Ganga belonging together.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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As far as I know from her dialogues during the Gauri phase, she always maintained that Jagya was not at fault but Bal vivah was. She said that they both were victims of Bal vivah and had no inkling of what marriage was or what the wanted in a life partner. It was a time for play but they were forced into adulthood.

About the masala on hands remarks and such, all those were symptoms of the real disease called Bal vivah. It was Jagyas way of expressing that that is not what he was looking for in a life partner. Anandi did not introspect that as a negative in herself but rather as a negative in Jagya. The scene was manipulated to show Jagya as cruel and Anandi as the victim. Anandi wasn't shown to have reservation for remarriage only because she doubted herself but because she was being old school about remarriage. They showed her to be less confident to boost the Prince Charming image of Shiv coming to rescue her. That's MY perception.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#47
Agreed. It is a ploy to bring Shiv and Jaga in a face off with Anandi caught up in the middle.
Which was on the cards from the time of entry of Shiv. This triangle will be much better than a love triangle.
Nobody in their right minds will agree for Jagya-Sanchi marriage . They have to be totally out of their senses to think that this alliance will work. If people still have sense they have to be shut up.
This is how a lot of sense less things happen in the real world. This is what they are showing here too.

Nobody ever said that Anandi is without Fault . I never believed that Anandi is without faults.
More than Anandi's supporters it is her critics who believe her to be mahaan.

Tomorrow if Ganga takes over from Anandi and runs Jagya's life I wonder what people will say about that will they call her dominating wife?



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Posted: 12 years ago
#48
The problem right now is,... Jagya has made so many mistakes and wrong decisions that he is afraid of his own thinking process. He feels what ever he will do, he will do wrong. So he is going by what he thinks is right, that is to accept the alliance for the sake of Anandi.

ANd by not clearing this up with Anandi and being open about this with her , he is making a blunder.

Perhaps the CVs want to show that Jagya has indeed grown up and is ready to make proper decisions. Perhaps they will show that , Jagya makes Sanchi understand how Family is more important to him now and he cannot change his lifestyle to fit her needs and taste.
Perhaps he will make her see how Him and Sanchi are indeed very different and there will be a mutual break up

I think that would be very healthy way of showing that, for the first time Jagya has been the one wearing the thinking cap in the relationship.

If he likes Ganga or not thats secondary...right now whats important is for him to realize if he really can spend the rest of his life with sanchi.

If he breaks off the relationship with her cause of the sudden love realization towards Ganga... then , even though it would be true to his nature... it would be a total disaster as it would scream that Jagya has not really learnt how to handle relationships afterall.

So this is what I want from the CVs that, they show Jagya and Sanchi break up in a very mature manner. WHere htey both fall apart and realize they are not good partners for each other Rather than the repetition of Jagya running after gauri behind the auto, after realizing that she might get married to someone. And proclaiming love to Gauri even while being married to Anandi.

History should not repeat itself this time.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Ganga's dynamics with Jagya as opposed to Anandi's with Jagya is debatable.

Ganga is actually the recipient of Jagya's help which was never the case with Jaan.

With Ganga, Jagya is made to fell more appreciated and more purposeful so maybe Ganga would not have to do much in the way that Anandi constantly dominated him. Even Gauri dominated him. I think now he may have a chance of success because he is being validated as worthy by Ganga and not constantly criticised for not living up to expectations.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Ermmm how can we pass on the blame of what J did to A with Gauri as bal vivah only?? That was adultery...and A said in clear words to J, that what happened between Jaan before he met Gauri was not his fault, but after that the way J betrayed her by keeping her in dark about Gauri for 4 years <<or was that more>>, she wont forgive him for that...
It was J who always maintained that bal vivah is at fault...to hide the fact that he was at fault...
Masala on hands was one thing and the other was that scene where A wears salwar to please J and he imagines G in place of A and changes the style of her duppata the way Gauri wore it and her hairstyle too...🤢
Forget everything else, what about allowing ur current wife to bang the door on the face of your ex-wife and making out in the same house??!!
A wasnt old school ever about remarriage...she was the one who helped Asha for marrying the love of her life the second time...she was just too broken from within with the betrayal she got from J to ever consider another person in her life...too scared about giving her all to someone again...IMO
If it was bal vivah alone at fault then Jagya-Gauri marriage should have worked...since Gauri was J's choice...it dint...and there are mutliple reasons for that...but one of the big reason was J not being able to assure Gauri that he was all hers...
J's character is real and not a knight in the shining armour and that is what makes him unique...he loses control in crisis even today and is impulsive by nature...and ziddi from his childhood, but he also loves his family, he has a strong bond with A, and he treats Mannu as his own child
A is not mahaan either...she is just a more sorted out and mature person and is compassionate by nature and gives her all to people she loves

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