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Posted: 12 years ago
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@TM - There is nothing wrong in a woman wooing a man be it Ganga or Sanchi if they love the man or if they think they love the man.


It is just that Ganga has been shown to fall in love a little too early on in the story.

Somebody who has been in a situation like she has been their energies an emotions will be so concentrated on making a life for themselves at this point.Like trying to make a life for themselves and protecting herself and her child from Ratpack and getting education on the side to make life better for herself and her child.In all this no woman would even register the attraction she feels for a man.

Having said that I don't think there is anything wrong in Ganga wanting to make Jagya's birthday a special occasion for him because he has helped her in many ways he was instrumental in her developing hopes for a new life.

As for falling in love it is more easy for Ganga to fall in love with Jagya than it is for Jagya to fall in love with Ganga.Because for Ganga this is her first love.She may have been married to Ratan but her emotions were never involved unlike Jagya who has had emotional involvement with both his marriages.

The objection is because when Ganga's mind at this point should be focussed on building her life and not about sharing her life with someone.At this particular point it looks unrealistic.
It would have been more convincing if she felt more settled in life and then thinking about sharing her life with Jagya.




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Posted: 12 years ago
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There is nothing wrong.

I think people say things against it only because anything can be used against her in Mannu's custody case and we all know how Indian courts function and what kind of arguments lawyers come up with. She should be careful not to do anything that weakens her case. Her case is already kind of weak because she's single, less educated and not earning on her own. Whereas Ratan has all resources to bring up the child.
But yes, she has more rights because she's the mother and the child is too small. Plus Ratan's atrocities and criminal record could also be a weapon for her to strengthen her case.

It's mostly for her case for her child.

Also, though her rishta with Rat was "naam ka" still it was legal. And she has to completely cut off from him in all respects and only then proceed somewhere else.

I don't want her to suffer any humiliation in court.

Rat and co., would have tried to cook trash against her anyway to malign her. So she should be careful and not give any opportunity to anyone to make some point on her character.

Lastly, this transition seemed rather quick because she was from a very conservative and backward set up and had suffered years of abuse (physical, emotional and sexual).
While I appreciate her ability to bounce back, I do find it unsettling that she's fallen for another man so soon. It is natural to like someone when so much care is given to you. But usually abused women don't consider another relationship so soon.

I don't say she should cry like Anandi for years before moving on! Still it was kind of quick especially in light of her background.

Anyway, she is not as "open" or "forward" as Sanchi.

Ganga falling for Jagya is a progressive track for sure as it explores that women also have feelings and desires. But I think it should have happened after her court case for Mannu's custody.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I don;t find this objection valid at this point it looks unrealistic for her to fall in love The thing is she is settling her in life but apart from that no other thought should never cross her mind is kind of unrealistic demand we are forcing on cvs

She is settling in her life where she has stopped Getting her education , becoming a nurse and her divorce is in process with Ratan isn't it ?so why it is unrealistic if she is thinking about sharing his life with Jagaya or has fallen for him😕In actual cvs are showing her doing both side by side




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Posted: 12 years ago
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The thing is why cvs have shown it before Rat case probably this issue might be raised in court Perhaps Rat will blame her but on the whole cvs have done it on a purpose with a good message they will follow why in the world a society thinks bad and accuse a woman for this Why a woman is not allowed to be helped by a man and stay in his house on humantarian grounds why their relationship should be questioned and mostly a woman should be blamed Why a woman who has been abused by her creep husband for years is not allowed to love someone else and be blamed as she is bad charactered because she loves another person etc On the whole cvs are giving a good message not bad

I don't think cvs are quick in case of Ganga Ganga has faced years of abuse from Ratan Jagaya is total counter to Ratan with his treatement to Ganga so love is quick and natural for her here and she is still going through society fear but on the whole cvs are again giving a great message why women should live in society fear and conservative backward thinking no i cannot do this i cannot do that be like Ganga 😉
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Posted: 12 years ago
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judgement will go against ratan only

because ratan married another woman inspite of already married and of course for domestic violence and attacking jagya

if court ask ganga about her feeling about jagya let them ask because there is strong and good reason why she is doing it .let ganga tell everything about her life that how ratan made her life hell how she met jagya how jagya help her how ratan emotinally black mail her then court will go in favour of her

once anandi told to ganga to prove in court how can u take care of manu as single parent so u should become independent .so ganga also has answer for this in court
Edited by surabhi01 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Is it right to think ganga should have thought of falling in love with jagya after she would have been settle in life!Does life follow a routine!First I will read,then I will become a nurse then I will settle in life then I will fall in love!Its not a marriage that we will think that we will do it in a certain age.Its love even 13 years old girls and boys fall in love though they shouldn't have fallen in love.You can set everything but you can't set the time when you will fall in love.So we should think if we started liking a person that oh god its not the time,I had decided to fall in love when I am 25 years old.Is that realistic!Its a feeeling!Ganga is not thinking of marrying and getting settled with jagya!But ho can someone control the feeling of love! Its ok,court will question her.But does she know court will question her which is not true!She will assume court will ask her questions and she will only tell what happened!Thats it!Court will agree with her because truth always wins and she will get both mannu and divorce.Anyways I don't care about those questions because Ratan would have put the same blame if ganga wouldn't have fallen in love with jagya.Also she was not thinking of getting a divorce.She only wanted to be free.Now she is free and living her life and taking care of the family who has done everything for her.And she is happy doing that.
Edited by shankythebest - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Great post...however ganga is not wooing jagya but has fallen hopelessly in love with jagya & refusing to acknowledge it to herself... and ofcourse she couldn't time it or keep it pending till she settles down 😉... well even if she were wooing him, i see nothing wrong in it.
Ganga is experiencing such emotions for the first time in her life. I also disagree that this transition has been fast for her, jagya is the first man in her life who treated her with respect & made her feel secure...so she got attached to him over time.



Edited by BeyondTheSky - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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but in a way if Ratan tries to blame Ganga for being with Jagya the lawyer can very well turn the case in Ganga's favor because if Ganga and Jagya are together then it will be more good for Mannu...Ganga has to prove that she can single handedly bring up her child but if lawyer proves that Ganga has support of such rich and big loving family then their case will become more stronger...court will definitely feel two parent is better then one...Mannu has no attachment with his own father but is very affectionate towards Jagya so if court tries to see that whether Jagya is good for Mannu or not it can easily be proven because their are so many witness and Mannu himself shows attachment towards Jagya
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@Surabhi

I know judgement will be in Ganga's favour only. Ratan has many crimes to his name, including illegal marriage to second wife without divorcing first one and attempt to murder first wife and even her benefactor repeatedly.

But I just don't want more humiliation for her during court proceedings. Or any small thing to be used against her.

We know nature of courts and laws here! Judges are also so misogynist and have preconcieved notions on women's behaviour!


@Libsrocks

The support of Singh family argument won't work for her. Lawyer will straightaway ask what is their rishta with her or her kid and what's the guarantee that they'll always support her?

Then again Ganga's lawyer shall have to look for sufficient counter-argument.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: krystal_watz

Lately, I've spotted some posts in the forum which decry Ganga for being "eager and forward" in her attitude to Jagya (which she's not IMO),and that Jagya should woo her first. Similar sentiments echo everywhere else, and in real life as well.


My question: Why is it so wrong for a woman to confess her feelings first? Or "woo" a man?



Why shoudl you ask this question? Cant you analyse the case and see where that woman stands at present?

what is her identity ? what does she do for a living? and most importantly who is the man she wooing ??

A homeless servant with a child in her responsibility wooing her master ?? and above all expects that he will marry her ? she must be kidding to herself, man...

It shows what a low opinion she has of her doctor... To think that she might be the right one for him, she must be thinking there is something terribly wrong with that doctor, therefore he had two failed marriages, that he is an insane man who deserves no one better than a illiterate servant.

It is an insult to a wealhty, highly qualified doctor. No singh family member ever considered her as a bride because of what she is.

First you creat your own identity, woman ...focus on your career, rise to his level, be someone in life, take the financial responsibility of your child, find a home for yourself and then say 'i cant see him with another woman'...What are you now?

I m happy that she did not disclose her feelings to anyone. At least she had that much of sense.

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