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Posted: 13 years ago
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Robin - that is an unfortunate truth...we all live in a superficial society. It is what it is. Since we can't change ourselves, we can change some of the following:

1. Society - good luck with this... if you figure out how to make society less superficial then please tackle world peace next! Am still working on making myself less superficial

2. Our own body image - the things I suggested

3. Our own overall self confidence and need for validation - People commenting does not make you less capable or healthy or somehow stupid. You know that. internalize it like a mantra. Chant it to yourself till you believe it. And chant it again when in doubt. Then focus on what it is you want to accomplish regardless of your looks and go after it no holds barred with confidence because you are no less capable then anybody else because of your appearance unless your goal is to be a beauty contestant. Don't resent others for their looks... Just treat it as a non-factor.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Missesha

Khusi, I feel at that this stage, Anandi has found a friend, who understands her well, even without telling him much. I think this is a phase when she is slightly comfortable with him, respects him, admires him for who he is and can trust him without the fear of being JUDGED.


But I yet don't think she has any 'feelings' for him. This is a very beautiful phase of her life and falling in love will start from somewhere around here.

that's what I am trying to say..but due to lack of expressing capability I cant articulate it!!😆

That's not love….thats sure…I mean I just compared anandi with sugna…at that time sugna has no feeling for shyam at all..she took ages to like him..but here in anandi's case..it seems different..!! kuchh toh hai...😆


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: tinoo

bluerobin,

the one thing i can say is that you yourself feel you are not good looking and others reflect that to you.
It is not them making you feel that way... it is you feeling that way about yourself and projecting those hurtful thoughts onto others.
If you have time, I'd like for you to go and see the "Work of Byron Katie" videos on youtube. She is an excellent therapist in these matters.
So basically, as a first step, you must take ownership over the fact that these are your thoughts about others and not others thoughts about you.
Will get back with some more stuff.


Tinoo - i agree and disagree with this. The buck stops with her, but I don't think it always starts with her. Sadly, most folks have a "jogia" or four in their lives...having such unkind ticks is always detrimental for ones self confidence.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Suchi-Virmanian

Did we not say that anandi likes him lol


But seriously,
I think anandi is realizing what jagya has done to her was wrong. Before she taught she dserved it, she blamed herself for not being up to par for him but now she has someone to compare it with. She will compare the behavior and see that what jagya did was abuse. And she will be able to move on from his thoughts completely.

Is she in love with shiv
I do not think so.. But as you said kushi, the healing has started.

Shiv has fallen no doubt.
But this process will be harder for anandi.
I am glad that she is moving on and by the time jagya returns she will be completel y over him and thus it will be easier for her to make decision.

Until now she was hurt by jug head but, she still loved him. But now... She is up to no feelings for jagya... And eventually she will be irked by him.

I cannot wait to watch

Suchi, even I feel the same way. I think A is realizing that all along J has only abused her, never appreciated her. It was because of J's constant expectations, she always felt inferior and good for nothing in herself. That is why even when J-G insulted her enough times in the past, she didn't take strong actions against them, because somewhere in her mind, she felt it was due to her incompetency, J left her.

Today Shiv made her realize that she is perfect for who she is. She only needs to have faith in her thoughts. No one ever raised A's confidence to this level before praising her for who she is.

I think, if next time J-G bash her for anything, she will shut them down with lot of dignity & self confidence.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ

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Tinoo - i agree and disagree with this. The buck stops with her, but I don't think it always starts with her. Sadly, most folks have a "jogia" or four in their lives...having such unkind ticks is always detrimental for ones self confidence.

the unkind ticks only have an effect/power because we are thinking those same thoughts.
Have you read the harry potter books -- where there are these evil entities called 'the dementors'... they have no power on their own, they can only act through the thoughts in your own head... i.e. their power is only activated if we are thinking the thought they want us to think.
And yes, the buck may not have started with her ... but today right this very minute with this awareness, she can end it right here and now. It's a historical moment.
In any case, she also has to realize that when people say she is not good looking, they are projecting what they feel about themselves on her. It has nothing to do with her whatsoever. That is their story about her.
So, instead of being other-realized, today she can take the first step to being self-realized.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: khusi_*

that's what I am trying to say..but due to lack of expressing capability I cant articulate it!!😆

That's not love'.thats sure'I mean I just compared anandi with sugna'at that time sugna has no feeling for shyam at all..she took ages to like him..but here in anandi's case..it seems different..!! kuchh toh hai...😆


I agree 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ

Tinoo - Not sure we are talking about the same thing. The thing I feel is that while Anandi has gained professional confidence, she is still lacking it on a personal level. Or maybe I am projecting🤔


Her own self worth is lacking and that was apparent in her conversation with Shiv and her dreams today. She is seeking validation. One should not enter any relationship with a "need" for validation. Validation must ideally come from self not external sources. One remains vulnerable so long as we continue to seek external validation. Shiv has no need for validation, which makes him complete within himself.

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Part of this personal self worth may have to do with her femininity, but not all of it. Jagat destroyed her self confidence on every level...including her intelligence, social skill set, etc. not just her femininity

Yes, but now she has gained 99.9% of what jagat took away -- her intelligence, her skill set etc. have all been validated by her achievements in social service, her degrees, her education, her award in social service, her professional position... the only part remaining is her femininity which is yet to be restored.
Is she desirable as a woman to a man?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@ anjana and tinoo - yaar all I have written is based on my experiences from relatives and also the so called " enjoyable college life " . Often I try to motivate myself thinking about sachin tendulkar ( short height ), actors like dhanush ( he is thin like me ) . i often try to say to myself that people taunt me because they fear I have something that they don't have . But still it takes lot of time as well as patience because people pass comments on you everyday . And personally I have never distinguished anyone or had some biased approach towards any person based on their height, weight, skin colour. I am very confident of one fact I do pay respect to every individual without any prejudices about their looks, religion, caste , occupation etc .
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@sreevask and @blue robin --
what should she "do" to achieve her femininity or mutual status in a relationship?
I think the key (after years of theraphy 😆😆) is this --
Basically when two people "fall in love", they think that they feel different or happier because the other person is showering them with love.
But it is actually the other way around ... we love the feeling of being in love because of the feeling of love going outward from within us (not the incoming flood of feeling from the other person).
If you consistently forget about finding love from outside... and consistently look for objects/things/people you can flow your love to... then your divine soul is invoked and it is that divine soul that will give you your femininity despite your looks or your outward appearance.
So, every moment keep looking at something you can flow your love to ... be it a puppy, a child, your mother, a hobby, your job, reading something that is extremely interesting to you, cooking something, your garden ... love should be oozing out of you to everything you do... and this is what will restore your femininity.
(you meaning general you -- anyone -- not specifically the two of you)...
Anandi is on the right track -- she has several objects of love focus -- her school, her girls, her cooking, her sarpanch work --
Love is not something that someone gives you... love is something that flows out of you.
You dont need love. You are love.
And that my friend is the secret of femininity ... and also the secret of true masculinity.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: bluerobin

@ anjana and tinoo - yaar all I have written is based on my experiences from relatives and also the so called " enjoyable college life " . Often I try to motivate myself thinking about sachin tendulkar ( short height ), actors like dhanush ( he is thin like me ) . i often try to say to myself that people taunt me because they fear I have something that they don't have . But still it takes lot of time as well as patience because people pass comments on you everyday . And personally I have never distinguished anyone or had some biased approach towards any person based on their height, weight, skin colour. I am very confident of one fact I do pay respect to every individual without any prejudices about their looks, religion, caste , occupation etc .

Its true that it would take a lot of time since you are facing the taunts on a daily basis.. I never faced any taunts for my looks but people always taunt my nature. I'm soft-spoken, shy and introvert.I dont dress up very trendily.. So automatically everyone made me an easy target for their taunts .. I often hear that I'm boring and leading a black n white life!! [I dont know what makes them say that😕]
In my life I did get a friend like Shiv😊 Just last year.. And he made a big difference in my life. He was the first person in this world to say that I'm a very interesting person!! He liked the way I am! So thats when I started thinking differently... I saw a different me in the mirror! People's taunts are no more a problem for me. I'm happily considering it as their ignorance😊 I was lucky in that case though this friend of mine is not in my life anymore😭...as though he was my friend just to make me realise my own worth.
I must agree with Tinoo here that a lot depends on our own thinking..about "ourselves".. I was programed to think the way people judged me. The day I came out of it I just realised that these comments and taunts aren't really affecting me! What they say is not who I am!!

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