Anandi's boundaries as a sarpanch - Page 5

😡tinoo anandi first saw these man with guns in hand -----first reaction of mine they r all gundas mere aristocratic nawabs with no moral culture .

Originally posted by: monamie111

Tinoo..as u have raised questions on anandi's action of stopping a child marriage...i would like to ask u something...

1. do u think that if someone will stop the child marriage that person will have to take the responsibility of that child?

2. and if a person can not take the responsibility of the victim that means that person have no right to stop an evil thing?

3. this kind of evil things happen in n number of times everyday...so if a person who will save more than one child from child marriage that person have to take the responsibility of all of them?

i am really surprised that every time anandi does something good..u question her actions..😕 u did the same when she judged basant's case...there also basant and gahena was wrong and anandi was right!...and here also anandi is right! at that time also it was not a personal matter..and this time also it is not a personal matter at all..

may be i will not be able to take the responsibility of a victim..but that doesn't mean that i'll remain silent and will do nothing from saving one person's life..

totally agree. By that logic none of us should ever intervene when we see something illegal or wrong happening without a foolproof backup/support plan for the victim. And while we formulate the support plan let the crimes be perpetrated. Pretty skewed logic! Intact immediate intervention is sometimes crucial to save someone...how you help the victim is something you deal with after the fact that you save them first.

Anandi did right by stopping Jyoti's marriage...Marrying a kid is a crime.Anybody who sees this should oppose it...its not abt parental right its abt law...supposing if u see someone killing his child will u stay quite since he's his child he has parental right over it.
No a sane person will oppose it.Because its lawfully,ethically and morally wrong.
Similarly child marriage is also lawfully and morally wrong.
Now as for taking responsibility of jyoti...Why would her parents refuse to take her responsibility ??
Right now Anandi's 1st priority is stopping the wedding...she can ponder over its repercussions later.

The wrong is finding loop holes in a character like kiran bedi...her character won't change day after day n moment by moment like other characters...
Anandi won't change her character for today just 4 d sake of our discussion...
it is our outlook changes moment by moment...
The discussion is just for its sake & certainly nothing to draw conclusions...or learn something new out of it...
Well Anandi is no way answerable to any one as she did no wrong till today... Shiv did not come to romance with Anandi ...it is part of his duty...
Need not worry...there is lot of life to learn things...about Anandi...a flawless lady...ever..
Jesus was crucified just because some found issues with him...
But that never changed his character nor the world's respect regard n reverence towards him...
Its common to throw stones @ those who wanted to do good to society...
Even today she tried to rescue Jyoti n her parents without police intervention that might embarrass them n tried hard to prevent a crime as a responsible public servant...

To stop something that is against law . she need not give any guarantee of Jyoti's future.

Law also does not give an guarantee ..

It is a duty as a citizen also to stop if something is happening against law. One need not br even sarpunch for that.

If a person wants to find fault, he can find it even in a small thing as salt is not present in the food, saying it is tasteless...! The other person who has more positive approach would say that if we add salt to the food, it would taste wonderful...Same thing goes here...! Either appriciate the person for stopping a illegal activity, or find faults in how the person can't interfere and so on...! It depends on person to persons thinking...One person understands that the crime is crime, and we need to stop it...! He doesn't think of consequences...But the other person would think about what would he do if the victim lands on their foot steps and ask for help for his action, so just be away and watch the people performing crime...We need to choose our own path...!

i logged in from my pc only for this topic as cldnt upload it from mobile! i am amazed at the question even been raised, if this is the case then there will be no person left to take a stand against evil until they can support the person till the end of their life?? so it shd be like that i see some wrong doing i know if speak out act i may stop it but i dnt have any means to support take care guarantee a safe good life after that accident so i shd stay away or go get help or devise a back up plan?? 🤢

- Anandi lacks jurisdiction - POINT

Originally posted by: tinoo

I am curious as to what safeguards anandi has in place for jyoti's future.

Obviously, the ceremony has started with anandi locked in the room. Breaking the ceremony now means it will lead to a gauri type of situation... sort of a beendhni but not really a beendhni. Neither here nor there.

Jyoti will still have to live with those same parents and Jyoti will still have to function in that same society with the stamp of a married woman (since nobody else will want to join rishta with her)...yet she will not be married.

Anandi and shiv will walk off happy that they have stopped the wedding.

And then what for jyoti?

Originally posted by: tinoo

This is something I am just struggling with right now --

I fully agree with anandi's cause of stopping child marriage -- both her personal conviction as well as her responsibility towards the law... 1st i want to say this is very inovative and mind scratching question...one has to think...as i ahd to think about it

But I have two issues --

First, I cant stop to think what responsibility she takes for the girl afterwards. I mean to what extent can you barge into someone's personal life as the sarpanch?... and all this she is doing (stopping the child marriage) is only appropriate if tin-tin she is surpunch with her own morals and most of all she duty towards the law...and humanity...she has all the right to barge in the home of anyoen who will be taking laws in their hands in the name of some senceless customs and traditions..be it child marrige or education or fight for the female rights...what anandi is doing in real if all the surpach would start doing then what cahnges we are bringing in socity in 10years we can bring that change in less then year time...its a message to all those people in viallge and to the surpuch who are creating mess in socity and in life of people...have you seen satyamave jaytay in count of this sunday episode include,tha last 3rd sundy episode about people and the surpunch of village and their such idoitic mind and so backward and inhumanity thinking...this is clear messgae to all of them ke if their is anandi type of surpunch our country will be most advanced in coming 50years or less...and this week this new advertisment about this female in village of orrisa...see what changes she brought..its real..thats what we need...so i appricate what cv have shown and its fully rightfull of anandi to do so...and when as suprunch is head then tou more right she has... chavi ranavat..the MBA form london but surpaunch of this village(i forgot the name)..thats her identity with title,this is what evry indian viallge need

a) she takes the responsibility of educating jyoti and living in badi haveli during this duration

and

b) she takes the responsibility of marrying jyoti whenever jyoti turns 18 or adult...

To stop this child marriage and then drop the whole ball back into jyotis parents court does not seem appropriate to me, particularly since they may also illtreat jyoti later on. here what oyu saying makes sences and even wht i read in some of post kee if it turns out some thing like gauri and all...welll their is minor difference between this 2 parents...and i think when i tell the difference i dont think i need to go inot details to explain more

gauri parents sold their own daughter for money and 3 times meal a day even to a boy who was aready married and lolzzz dint even bother to see nun family members where their in the marrige between pighead nad mata gauri... whereas here jyoti parents have done as such...its been shown they are rich and well off..not like singhs but they have money...i think anandi anger was also reasonable because she suffered the same..her parents dint had the kind of money even to have 1 time proper meal and her father when got such offer only thought same and married anandi with pighead...here she got more angry kee they are well off..they dosent have to worry about 1 time meal...and yet they marrying their daughter because this is some custom or tradition...then its rally a sick mind parents...and it was nothing like anandi saying all this 1st time...she repeatedly said,evry time wheneva possible opertunity came she said not to go with this type of custom to destroy a lifes...and yet they went along it because boy family was more rich then jyoti father so he agreed...man thats disgusting and unaceptable...lolzzz a little example..i ahve a daughter she is 12...and if soem one comes along and says i want to amke your daughter my daughter in law and they are more rich then my huby means i should acept and marry my 12year daughter...oh!god..this is ..i think i should kill myself rahter then even in dream i think of it...she was right in saying about them as sick mind people...i think they are more sick people then gauri parents..they had their reasons..i know how it feels if their is not even 1 time meal..and their thinking ke atleast 3 times meal and good clothes...but here what was the reason..just because they are more rich..yaaakkk

Second, and this is something I really dislike about anandi --

she insulted madan singh about asha and said "since asha is not your own daughter, you dont care for her"... i thought this was really out of line ... because madan singh had taken asha in under his roof, he fed her, he clothed her ... and then all of a sudden anandi walks in and says "you dont care for her" because of some issue... yes..she was coorect...she was not his daughter so he did what he did..remember when shyam came and he said mean thing and what asha went through for his own daughter how madan singh went in rage how he was not able to bear...but wsnt he doing the same to ashaa...and shyam made him realise...so i think she said truth..yep..she shouldnt be this rude..this could eb said in different way too...but well this is some flaw in anandi that when she sees child marrige victim she looses her mind...and if another chance is given to the victim then why not let her also have wings and fly...

today once again she insulted the girl's parents about the "durbhagya of jyoti" to be born into such a useless household to such a useless father. I think these are really strong words.

Would any of us like it if someone whom we are bringing up (child or niece/nephew) came and strarted criticizing us and our parenting based on some incident... "oh you dont know how to parent"... I mean, our reaction would honestly be "get lost, I know what is best for my child"

Any views? i said my views..i think she did right by saying what she said...they are reallly more sick mind people then gauri parents...because their sole reson was more money..and their is NO END TO NEED OF MORE MONEY...😭