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Posted: 13 years ago
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anadi never entered in others personal life, as far as jyothis matter even though its her personal life but it is effecting society so its called not personal and anandi has all rights to do that. example if a husband beating his wief in public place like bus stand, railway station or on the road then every person has right to stop that bcoz that is a public place and that matter is not known as personal if the same thing happend in his house then some of the family members have right to stop that then thats known as personal life. here also jyothis matter is not personal and dont forget anandi is the sarpanch of that gaav. so i think anandi is 100% correct and she perposly not insult jyothis parents, i think she just shouts on them that to in a reasonable manner.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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i am not geting why so many members are taking it so hard and being so harsh on tin-tin...anything she said was not like ke she against anandi and her character...cant a thought can be appeared in one's mind...huh???????she got soem quaries and what baeter place then this to ask????????????????...evryoen is corect on their part of thinking but why geting so harsh on tin-tin...it can be explained politely too...

lolzzz...now i am in big trouble...but i really cudnt belive when members tuk it like she comited crime...she was asking ...simple...we could answer simple...nothing to take it as such personal and be on tone and say harshlyy...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Payal - yeah - Tinoo was not bashing Anandi nor condoning bal vivah- just pondering her actions. No need to Jump Her!

Edited by AnjanaYYZ - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ

@Payal - yeah - Tinoo was not bashing Anandi nor condoning bal vivah- just pondering her actions. No need to Jump Her!


exctly anjee - i was shoked to read some comments...tin-tin was not about why anandi stoped child marige and all..she was asking about the boundries as her being supunch and all and whats the big deal she asked what would hapen once she stops marrige...evry one has their own perspective...so jsut asking their pov is like she commited crime

and their are some members who so politely said..they too disagree with tin-tin...but they were not like ke so harsh and all...were polite and explained ke she thinking wrong...lolzzz...it amazes me a lot to see people get so eaily carried away...
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Posted: 13 years ago
#65
Thanks payal and anjana -- 🤗
But that is the nature of the game here on the forum. There are certain people with manners who refer to the issue at hand and respond exclusively to that ... and then there are certain people who are ill-mannered to the core (sreevask being one of them) who simply dont know where to draw the line. Her words, more than a reflection on me are a reflection on the upbringing her parents have given her. 😆
No offence taken 😉
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Okay, so the issue of law vs. personal boundaries particularly when the law and law-upholders dont take responsibility for the fallout.
I believe that female foeticide is wrong -- for a variety of social issues.
I also believe that abortion of a child found to be mentally retarded or afflicted with down's syndrome in the womb (during the course of a sonogram) is also wrong -- because there are social and ethical issues at play.
The former is a big issue in India -- and the latter is a big issue in the U.S.
While it is illegal to engage in female foeticide in India -- in the U.S. there is no such law (YET) though there are several propositions/proposals on the table. So at this point, killing foetuses with disabilities is just unethical.
While pro-life activists condemn killing foetuses with disabilities ... I stand on the other side with the parents right to choose.
If the law stops a child with a disability from being aborted and that child is born, lawmakers and law-upholders will thump themselves on the back for having saved a life, dust their hands off and walk away congratulating themselves.
So, the child is born with severe disorders, and now the responsibility of this unwanted child is on the parents. The parents may or may not have the financial or the emotional werewithal to bring a child with a disability in this world, and then raise it for the next fifty years. I personally would not want to be tied down to a child with a disability (My choice -- others may have different choices).
It is very easy for someone to say "Tinoo should give birth to the child with down's syndrome because the child has a right to life"... when they will not be the ones shouldering the consequences.
The same with female foeticide -- I dont applaud it, but I really wonder about the activists who stop it, force the girl to be born and then walk away. The girl child is born into an environment where she is unwelcome. She will always be treated with resentment and second-rate treatment. It is not just that the lawmakers gave her a 'life'... my concern will be on the quality of life that this unwanted girl child will have.
I dont doubt the nobility of the first action... but when people who are not engaged with or interested in the consequences interfere and then dump the consequences back on the concerned parties, I really have issues.
I dont think that there are any clear cut solutions but it is certainly an interesting discussion on the law and its interference in personal matters.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: tinoo

Thanks payal and anjana -- 🤗

But that is the nature of the game here on the forum. There are certain people with manners who refer to the issue at hand and respond exclusively to that ... and then there are certain people who are ill-mannered to the core (sreevask being one of them) who simply dont know where to draw the line. Her words, more than a reflection on me are a reflection on the upbringing her parents have given her. 😆
No offence taken 😉


i know..and it dosent hurt me but amazes me to see that simple things are some time negleted and one cant understand ke its been only asked or quaries came to your mind...we are human...we can get confused or wont be able to understand certain things...and jsut by simply replying in poiltness can be done to explain the person he\she thinking wrong and it could be coorected by simple talk...just by being hrash or bad words cant make a person see your pov..infact it takes other way and when even you are right your words are negleted because you ahve been rude...lolzzz...pyyar sai har jung jetee jaa saktee hai...yaa tou basss simple saa question thaaa
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Tinoo - a few people missed the spirit of your post. Some members get a little too passionate about their favorite characters and the discourse gets distorted. Don't take it to heart. 🤗

Edited:
As a member of the bar (no not jug's "repeat" establishment), I get your question. Law is not a complete solution to society's ailments. Its but a start... to kinda like what Vaidji was saying the other day. Law sometimes suppresses the problem only education (altered thinking and approach) can address the true problem. So, the real solution is not stopping the marriage it is getting the parents to recognize that what they are doing is not just illegal, but is wrong for their child whom they do love. Anandi for that greater purpose should have moderated her language and tried to be more persuasive.
Edited by AnjanaYYZ - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sreevask


So... By the end of discussion will there b any lessons learnt?

Yes... By finding faults in a gentle character, we can just produce kilometres of threads with more "hits"at...within no time..

As long as Anandi won't change her character , I can always have this advantage ...I always find issues with whatever she does with all my psycho analysis n dump tons of questions out...finally I say its just my apprehension & not my opinion...finish..

Whether it is delivering judgement for basant,rescuing daayan,Phooli n gulli,asha & now Jyoti...
Anandi shd not barge in the PERSONAL choices of others even if it is to stop crimes...she shd recuse,resign n kill herself...as she is doormat, mahaan,etc.,

Salam namaste...


Well I don't think the TM is trying to find faults in a gentle character.She is only wondering whether there is a better a way of doing the same thing.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: monamie111




i am really surprised that every time anandi does something good..u question her actions..😕 u did the same when she judged basant's case...there also basant and gahena was wrong and anandi was right!...and here also anandi is right! at that time also it was not a personal matter..and this time also it is not a personal matter at all..


Wrong comparison or half truth. Her 'judgement' that time was never questioned-in fact it was applauded as just and sincere. Neither was the oppressive behaviour of BG then supported, it was decried. If you remember correctly, Anandi's later capitulation to seat on judgement- after initial hunch to recuse herself- on a very real ground of personal involvement of her family, as well, clear availability of other elders to seat as 'Panch' including good old previous Sarpanch, to judge a clear case of oppression on part of employer and a reprimand to child assaulting elders, to deliver basically a same fair and just judgement was CONTENDED. The facts that family was vertically split, or it took Elders to their wits end to repair the breach- Dsa's extraordinary acumen and finesse to demonstrate Anandi's sincerity, does not make it 'impersonal' at the time of Judgement.
But then this is too digressing on the current topic. Anandi today is very much in her brief.

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