Anandi's boundaries as a sarpanch

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bluerobin

@bluerobin

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Posted: 13 years ago

#51

yaar as meenu posted , creatives are creating situations which will help in shiv knowing about anandi more. in showing this bal vivah track, shiv will be more impressed together with more news about anandi's past. may be in future , shiv jaggu will come face to face ...they will create some track where shiv babu will come to court at the same time jaggu anandi divorce happening. shiv will also get darshan of jaggu's modern wife .

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sreevask

@sreevask

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Posted: 13 years ago

#52

The discussion is not about AnSh coming closer...its about Anandi's barging in personal crimes...

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Teeya

@Teeya

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Posted: 13 years ago

#53

Originally posted by: tinoo
This is something I am just struggling with right now --

I fully agree with anandi's cause of stopping child marriage -- both her personal conviction as well as her responsibility towards the law...

But I have two issues --

First, I cant stop to think what responsibility she takes for the girl afterwards. I mean to what extent can you barge into someone's personal life as the sarpanch?... and all this she is doing (stopping the child marriage) is only appropriate if

a) she takes the responsibility of educating jyoti and living in badi haveli during this duration

and

b) she takes the responsibility of marrying jyoti whenever jyoti turns 18 or adult...

To stop this child marriage and then drop the whole ball back into jyotis parents court does not seem appropriate to me, particularly since they may also illtreat jyoti later on.

Second, and this is something I really dislike about anandi --

she insulted madan singh about asha and said "since asha is not your own daughter, you dont care for her"... i thought this was really out of line ... because madan singh had taken asha in under his roof, he fed her, he clothed her ... and then all of a sudden anandi walks in and says "you dont care for her" because of some issue...

today once again she insulted the girl's parents about the "durbhagya of jyoti" to be born into such a useless household to such a useless father. I think these are really strong words.

Would any of us like it if someone whom we are bringing up (child or niece/nephew) came and strarted criticizing us and our parenting based on some incident... "oh you dont know how to parent"... I mean, our reaction would honestly be "get lost, I know what is best for my child"

Any views?

Aanandi ne bilkul sahi kaha hai.

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Noureen

@nya_ansari

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Posted: 13 years ago

#54

Tinoo...😲 Yaar if somebody is committing crime infront of you what would you do??? Not only as a sarpanch or whatever, but as a good citizen and being a human u have responsiblity to stop crime... If I am not doing so just because I don't have resources to rescue somebody in future... thats not fair. We have to do our part at our place... I've no authority for doing so but if somebody will do crime infront of me I'll first slap him or her than will question next... and it is responsibility of state to nuture children without enough resources or they are having some traumas... Being a human Anandi is playing her part and than government and non government organizations are there to helped children like this... If you could do something noble go ahead do not stop your steps because of future's fear what you will do or how to do... resolve first biggest issue...

Edited by Noureen_Ansari - 13 years ago

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567043

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Posted: 13 years ago

#55

This is something I am just struggling with right now --
###### I am struggling too! In the past, I've always found your posts admirably logical-but this once, I'm afraid NOT

I fully agree with anandi's cause of stopping child marriage -- both her personal conviction as well as her responsibility towards the law...
###### At least we agree on THIS!

But I have two issues --

First, I cant stop to think what responsibility she takes for the girl afterwards.
###### Why should ANANDI have to take responsibility of Jyoti-she is NOT an orphan! I mean to what extent can you barge into someone's personal life as the sarpanch?
###### IF a crime is being committed,the LAW of the land is being broken,then it is NOT
called "barging" in! She is an elected officer of the court and as a sarpanch,she is DUTY BOUND to prevent a crime rather than just mete out punishment AFTER the crime.By your yard stick, rape is also a matter of SOMEBODY'S "personal life".
... and all this she is doing (stopping the child marriage) is only appropriate if

a) she takes the responsibility of educating jyoti and living in badi haveli
and

b) she takes the responsibility of marrying jyoti whenever jyoti turns 18 or adult...
####### BOTH ARE ABSURD PRE-CONDITIONS because they imply-
1) If you are poor,you cannot prevent a crime?
2)So,if Anandi prevents FIVE child marriages EVERY year-she is financially responsible for ALL them till they get married? Why not AFTER too,in case their husbands are wife beaters???
3) Is this a rule only for Anandi or do you plan on holding ALL cops,lawyers,judges responsible for the financial well being of ALL victims for a certain indefinite period of time too?!
To stop this child marriage and then drop the whole ball back into jyotis parents court does not seem appropriate to me, particularly since they may also illtreat jyoti later on.
###### It is INAPPROPRIATE? How and why? Parents,according to you should NOT be questioned,yet you fear they may ill-treat their girl child for something THEY did? HUH?

Second, and this is something I really dislike about anandi --
##### You are not fond of young women who question adults who are in the wrong?WHY? Are young MEN allowed?

she insulted madan singh(NO she told the TRUTH to MS-His stand was TOTALLY WRONG!) about asha and said "since asha is not your own daughter, you dont care for her"... i thought this was really out of line ...
##### WHY? It WAS the truth! He allowed his SON to marry a widow but the widowed Asha was not allowed the same freedom to fall in love & marry the guy she loved
because madan singh had taken asha in under his roof, he fed her, he clothed her ... and then all of a sudden anandi walks in and says "you dont care for her" because of some issue...
##### Fed and clothed her AND in lieu he has the right her to chase her like an animal through the village? Food & clothes do NOT make a life. It IS true he didn't care about Asha-he cared about his frigging fake izzat & maan. And Anandi did NOT just walk in out of the blue "Because of SOME issue" Its rather sad that you should dismiss such an important issue as widow remarriage in so cavalier a manner.

today once again she insulted the girl's parents about the "durbhagya of jyoti" to be born into such a useless household to such a useless father. I think these are really strong words
###### You just feared that the parents would later mistreat Jyoti-so,if THAT fear of yours is valid then it IS her durbhagya to have such terrible patents.

Would any of us like it if someone whom we are bringing up (child or niece/nephew) came and strarted criticizing us and our parenting based on some incident... "oh you dont know how to parent"... I mean, our reaction would honestly be "get lost, I know what is best for my child"
##### I would HOPE that we NEVER did any such thing that would warrant anybody saying this to us.

Any views?_ As you can see-LOTS!!

Sorry if I stepped on your toes-my intention was NOT to offend.

Edited by znursingh - 13 years ago

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Noureen

@nya_ansari

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

#56

Originally posted by: znursingh

Exactly... Being a good citizen you've to stop the crime...

that's not mean if you don't have enough resources so you are not gonna be stop any crime...

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567043

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Posted: 13 years ago

#57

Originally posted by: tinoo

... but my broader question is what plans does she have for the fallout of her actions? Is it just enough to stop it and then dust one's hands and walk off?

TINOO - the best fall out of her action will be that any OTHER stupid parents will be forced to think MANY TIMES before they think the girl child is a burdensome parcel to be passed on to the sasural!
AS a surpanch her duty ENDS when she stops an illegal marriage.

It is ENTIRELY right that she dusts off her hands & walks off.You want her to ADOPT EVERY child she rescues & take her away from her,maybe repentant parents?? She will have an army to look after,feed,clothe AND marry off!!!

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nazsheikh

@nazsheikh

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Posted: 13 years ago

#58

a salute to cvs of balika vadhu for creating a charachter like anandi...👏...its hard to believe ppl can find faults in such positive charachters like hers...

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sreevask

@sreevask

Voyager

Posted: 13 years ago

#59

So... By the end of discussion will there b any lessons learnt?

Yes... By finding faults in a gentle character, we can just produce kilometres of threads with more "hits"at...within no time..

As long as Anandi won't change her character , I can always have this advantage ...I always find issues with whatever she does with all my psycho analysis n dump tons of questions out...finally I say its just my apprehension & not my opinion...finish..

Whether it is delivering judgement for basant,rescuing daayan,Phooli n gulli,asha & now Jyoti...
Anandi shd not barge in the PERSONAL choices of others even if it is to stop crimes...she shd recuse,resign n kill herself...as she is doormat, mahaan,etc.,

Salam namaste...

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Dadisa2011

@Dadisa2011

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Posted: 13 years ago

#60

i think Anandi should not use harsh words but i think when it is a child marriage or widow marriage issue Anandi gets over emotional that makes her say harsh words. when it is some other issue she uses reason to solve it like the nehar issue. As the gao sarpanch i think she has the right to go into someone house and stop them if they are doing something illegal which child marriage is.

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