Simran is being abused - Page 3

thats so true..i have never seen a kid act like this.. and she is not even a kid.. she is a grown girl and she should be slp'd for the way she treats simran. simran needs to get strong and give her a peice of her mind. they should all leave her and then she will know what love is.

Originally posted by: vvrsun

How did Simran show her love? By changing her name from Gudiya to Aastha?

"Astha" is a name which is closest to Simran - it belonged to her dead daughter, given by Anandi, and it takes a herculian effort for any mother to bestow a lost child's name to a child biologically not born to her.......

God forbid, but if any of us lost our child, would we be able to bring another kid into the house and call the child with the same name? Think about it. And no one, not even one born to us can replace a child that is lost, never, no matter by which name you call it.

So yes, by naming Gudiya Astha, she gave her a most precious gift as a parent......

Originally posted by: vvrsun

By letting her have her way? By turning a blind eye to

her foilbles?

By lying to her on all major issues?

That was wrong on Simran's part. She was an over indulgent parent, blinded by a belief that love conquers everything.

But the mistake of being over indulgent in no way translates into Simran not loving Astha. In fact, just the opposite.

Simran did not neglect Astha, quite the opposite. Being an indulgent parent is different from a neglecting parent.

Before Astha came to know of her adopted status, there is not one instance where she has any complaints against Simran as a mother. She kept on repeating to everyone who cared to listen what a wonderful mother Simran was. Simran stood by her, believed in her even when the world was against her.

Astha cheated on Simran by falling into the trap of leaked papers, remember that? So what did that mean? Astha did not love Simran?

Astha might have been hurt that Simran hid so much from her, and her views of Simran as a person who was always right might have got a severe beating, but that no way changed the fact that Simran loved Astha.

I also remember when that leaked paper case happened, Simran refused to talk to Astha, and Astha regretting it badly because she had let her mother down. Later on Simran forgave her and Astha was the happiest that day.

This shows what a strong bong Simran and Astha shared.

Astha was always possesive of Simran. She was even rude to Divya just because Simran praised her.

So what ever happened to all that love? So all that love was just a sham on Astha's part?

Her hurt is justified, her behaviour and malicious intent is not. Her age cannot justify the malice she has developed against Simran. Malice, at any age, just cannot be justified.

Minnie....I totally agree.

Might I also add that Aastha would not have been born if it wasn't for Simran pushing Abhi towads getting married to Neha.

Simran could have prevented Abhi from even going close to Neha, if that would have happen Aastha would have never existed.

I hope one day someone tells her that.

At this point I am so mad at Astha, I agree that Simran is not without
flaws and she has erred and made mistakes, but there is no excuse for
Astha's behaviour. OK Simran doesnt want to say anything to that spoilt
brat but why dont her grandparents or her darling father say anything to
her. If I were in Simran's place at this point I would have totally starting
ignoring her. I was an only child and my parents encouraged me to speak
my mind but if I was ever rude to my parents I would have got the silent
treatment for days on the end. Astha needs discipling ASAP

Minnie wrote "I also remember when that leaked paper case happened, Simran refused to talk to Astha, and Astha regretting it badly because she had let her mother down. Later on Simran forgave her and Astha was the happiest that day"
This shows what a strong bong Simran and Astha shared.

You are absolutely right,Minnie.

Not only that incident but on several occasions,Simran seemed to have her own ways of correcting and disciplining Astha.
That's exactly why I can't accept it when they show Simran taking so much nonsense from Astha.She does not have to raise her hand on this 18 year old,but surely she has a voice she should use and shut the girl's mouth and remind her very firmly that she need not get carried away.

As for using the rod,when the child is very young,if the situation demands it,I think it should be used.But like Minnie said it should not be to give vent to our frustrations.

My mom in law advised us not to beat our child, no matter what his fault was till he was 4-5 because he would only be terrified and not really learn a lesson.Chances were that he would do things behind our back.

I think it was a very valuable piece of advice.Ignoring the child(not his deed) as a punishment has always worked for me.

Hey Akshata,

Long time!! I completely agree with you about hitting children. As a child
my dad had forbidden my mom from raising her hand on me. I was
always terrified of my parents ignoring me. I think it is a child's worst fear
if your parents dont talk to you. Besides I think Astha is too old for her
parents to raise their hand. She does need disciplining and I hope that
Abhi and Simran both decide to be firm and strict with her.

It is good that Abhi is standing up to Aastha by making simple decisions and standing firm in his actions towards those simple decisions. Also Simran should stand up and speak up to Aastha. Who the hell she thinks she is. This kid is void of manners, self-respect, self-esteem, lacks everything that a normal well brought up but not spoilt kid is all about. Sid and Sia, Simran and Abhi should move on with their lives and just ignore Aastha and her behavior. She is after all 18 years old. She is at the age where she should start thinking of her words and the consequent actions of those words on herself and on others. I can hardly wait to see the Wedding of Simran and Abhi and of Sid and Sia. Since Aastha has no self-respect and no clue of how to treat Sid, she does not deserve him. I hope that we can get to see where in the future everyone getting on with their lives inspite of Astha's rantings and rude behavior towards ALL. I hope that in future where we get to experience a totally changed Aastha.

Originally posted by: Minnie

"Astha" is a name which is closest to Simran - it belonged to her dead daughter, given by Anandi, and it takes a herculian effort for any mother to bestow a lost child's name to a child biologically not born to her.......

I beg to differ. She is used to calling to her child for 2 years, and that's what comes easily to a bereaved mother. Doesn't take a Herculean effort, as she sees her lost child in every infant. I can quote examples from my own experience.

She didn't realize (nor would anyone, for that matter) what she was inflicting on Gudiya by calling her Astha.

Originally posted by: vvrsun

I beg to differ. She is used to calling to her child for 2 years, and that's what comes easily to a bereaved mother. Doesn't take a Herculean effort, as she sees her lost child in every infant. I can quote examples from my own experience.

She didn't realize (nor would anyone, for that matter) what she was inflicting on Gudiya by calling her Astha.

Very well said vvrun 👏👏

Originally posted by: vvrsun

I beg to differ. She is used to calling to her child for 2 years, and that's what comes easily to a bereaved mother. Doesn't take a Herculean effort, as she sees her lost child in every infant. I can quote examples from my own experience.

She didn't realize (nor would anyone, for that matter) what she was inflicting on Gudiya by calling her Astha.

I am sorry if I sound confused, but does that mean a bereaved mother can actually replace a lost child with another one? Seeing her child in every infant and replacing is two different things.

I beleive as a mother, each child is unique and loving one does not take away from loving another. And just even hinting that a mother can actually forget the grief of loosing one child by replacing her with another is pretty, well, don't mind, insulting to me personally.

And had Simran just replaced Gudiya for Astha, then believe me, Abhi would have been staying with Simran and Sia, Astha and her feelings be damned.