Simran is being abused - Page 2

Yes, Simran has to really move ahead now, just stop lamenting over Astha's bad behaviour, stop taking everything silently. I think she has to talk to Astha, ask her what her problem is. I think she should now narrate the entire story about Neha and Abhi and Simran to her....I think it is high time Astha knows about the fact about Neha.

It is really a wrong thought that she is harbouring in her mind that Simran is responsible for her mother's death. I know we will have debates in this issue, but this is what i feel.... 😆

Originally posted by: Minnie

callous??😲 Simran and callous??

I wish I could UPS a tight slap to this character.

lol - that is so funny!!! if only minnie - if only....👏😆

Originally posted by: innocentindian

lol - that is so funny!!! if only minnie - if only....👏😆

FedEx would be faster .... 😆😆

Abhi step and do something? ROFL 😆 😆

He is a nikamma. He can only run away from situations and repent at leisure. And also propogate the human race!

Moreover, what can Simran tell Aastha about Neha? Aastha has already read Neha's diary and so her thinking is already colored. They say absence makes the heart fonder. And familiarity breeds contempt. So Simran should take a sabbatical and go far away for 6 months - 1 year. They took an 18-year leap didn't they. So why not a 1-year leap!

Don't none of you fans ever dare say 'out of sight, out of mind'! I firmly believe in absence making the heart fonder.

I wonder what the director is trying to tell us by showing this kind of behaviour from Aastha

Originally posted by: Minnie

callous??😲 Simran and callous??

Brings up a baby with all the love in the world and she becomes callous? Thousands of adoptive parents out there don't tell their adopted kids that they were not born to them, they are all callous??

According to the dictionary, calous means: " "a concious indifference to suffering of others"; "cold-blooded and indurate to public opinion"

So where has ever Simran shown a 'concious indifference to the suffering of others" ?? How has she set an example of being cold blooded and uncaring of other's feelings??

She cries a lot, whines a lot, over indulges Astha a lot, does not stand up for herself often when berated unfairly by others, but callous?😲 😲 😲

You are right about Astha though. She is callous. Leave alone Simran, she does not even care a hoot about her nanu, not for one minute did she think her selfish action of getting back at Simran for adopting and giving a loving home to her, is resulting in making that old man alone and miserable, her actions are upsetting her own old grand parents, hurting each and every person around her, but she is " conciously indifferent to the suffering of others"; "cold-blooded and indurate to public opinion"

I wish I could UPS a tight slap to this character.

Minnie,....you said it all👏.

This is not specific to Astitva but more as a reponse to one the following messages.
In response to a reply in this thread regarding hitting a child to teach them wrong from right. " Hitting is not a solution to teach kids right from wrong".
Coporal discipline does nothing but instill fright in a child !!!! and I hope the person who posted that email does not resort to such behaviour with their own children.

Discipline is done by teaching a child what is right not by punishing them or hitting them - for heavens sake.

What kind of parent hits their child to teach them something. Its abuse and abuse does not teach anything positive. I hate the menatality of people who raise hands on little children because they dont know how to teach them in another way.
As a mother, of 2 children - a 1 yr and 3 yr old I know how taxing it can be - but please please please - dont raise your hand or pinch ears or hurt a child in any way!!!!!!!!!

Teaching and making a kid realize it's mistake
1. requires lots of patience, time and a determination as parent (I feel)
2. Physically abusing a kid is not an answer, definitely not
3. ignoring kid's faults and forgiving is no solution either. (Simran did)

If i have to choose between #2 & #3, I would still choose #2 over #3. Solution 3 is the easiest one, you do not have to put any efforts and the end result is what we see as Astha.

Originally posted by: Minnie

Brings up a baby with all the love in the world and she becomes callous? Thousands of adoptive parents out there don't tell their adopted kids that they were not born to them, they are all callous??

According to the dictionary, calous means: " "a concious indifference to suffering of others"; "cold-blooded and indurate to public opinion"

So where has ever Simran shown a 'concious indifference to the suffering of others" ?? How has she set an example of being cold blooded and uncaring of other's feelings??

She cries a lot, whines a lot, over indulges Astha a lot, does not stand up for herself often when berated unfairly by others, but callous?😲 😲 😲

You are right about Astha though. She is callous. Leave alone Simran, she does not even care a hoot about her nanu, not for one minute did she think her selfish action of getting back at Simran for adopting and giving a loving home to her, is resulting in making that old man alone and miserable, her actions are upsetting her own old grand parents, hurting each and every person around her, but she is " conciously indifferent to the suffering of others"; "cold-blooded and indurate to public opinion"

I wish I could UPS a tight slap to this character.

How did Simran show her love? By changing her name from Gudiya to Aastha?

By letting her have her way? By turning a blind eye to her foilbles?

By lying to her on all major issues?

Originally posted by: riaved

This is not specific to Astitva but more as a reponse to one the following messages.
In response to a reply in this thread regarding hitting a child to teach them wrong from right. " Hitting is not a solution to teach kids right from wrong".
Coporal discipline does nothing but instill fright in a child !!!! and I hope the person who posted that email does not resort to such behaviour with their own children.

Discipline is done by teaching a child what is right not by punishing them or hitting them - for heavens sake.

What kind of parent hits their child to teach them something. Its abuse and abuse does not teach anything positive. I hate the menatality of people who raise hands on little children because they dont know how to teach them in another way.
As a mother, of 2 children - a 1 yr and 3 yr old I know how taxing it can be - but please please please - dont raise your hand or pinch ears or hurt a child in any way!!!!!!!!!

I am sorry but I beg to disagree. I completely disagree with this western concept of spare the rod at every cost.

I as a child got a slap from my own parents often enough when I erred, and I can not even dream of saying " What kind of parents were they to have hit me...." ...No. They were the most wonderful of parents who did not hesitate to knock sense into me when needed and hugged me with all their might when I did something right......I remember I was made to stand in a dark cupboard where I was scared to death and after that it seems I got so scared that I started wetting my bed, my mom got very wild at my dad for giving me that punishment and since then the smacks at the bottom were much more welcome punishment than that......(No that I looked forward to them😆 )

And I am not alone. Everyone that I have grown up with has gone through the same and yet they too feel that almost always the slaps were justified and love their parents without inhibition.

I agree it is wrong to hit a child to 1) Make him/her do something your way 2) To vent out your frustration 3) Resorting to it everytime you need to make the child understand something

But it is not wrong when it is done to make him aware that some actions cause hurt to others, and that pain is equivalent to the physical hurt that they get, because upto a certain age, children cannot identify with emotional hurt, that is to say, they peraps feel it the most, but cannot understand it. And more importantly, it needs to be used in a very selective way, and that too when every other method has failed. It is very very essential to make the child understand that the child is loved with all the heart and that he/she is not bad, it's his/her actions which make him/her look bad.

As for Astha, she has way past gone the stage of corporal punishment. But she still needs the slap she should have got years back....

These are just my thoughts and I don't intend to hurt anyone by this 😛.