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Posted: 2 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: MOTHERHOOD

No. Their marriage is an open marriage. BB does not care who AK sleeps with as long as he provides her with financial security.


Yes barkha doesn't care how many illegitimate children n affair AK has till she has kapadia surname n can claim rights on kapadia empire any how.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: naaznin


U should watch 5th August 2023 episode. Anuj told that affair started later when barkha had already told ankush about wanting only his name n they were living seperately n ankush came to India n affair started when the lady showed him love.

And why did she only want a surname and fell out of love? The same person who she loved deeply? Lack of respect for wife. This was told by her 2 times I guess once when they were arguing about her wanting to give a proposal to Anuj which was discouraged by Ankush (that he never trusted her capabilities) and another time during the Women's Day out.


Barkha said she is MBA graduate n she wasn't some bechari. She could have worked but she just wants to usurp kapadia's wealth.

She also mentioned that she stayed in the marriage because the kids were too young.

About work. There are lakhs of MBAs passing each year, how many get a job. Moreover she will be coming after a gap, so the competition will be that much more. Classic example Paritosh and Kinjal. Not everyone is an Anupama who did not have to lift a finger to get jobs.

Secondly, let us for once accept, she divorced Ankush, where would she go with 2 young kids? She did not have a Mayka, a source of income or a place to stay till stability.


Barkha 's problem is not AK's affair but another claimant in property which she is seeking.

Barkha's problem is that she knows exactly what it is to be without ANY support, any back-up and she wants to ensure that her kids (including Adhik) do Not go through what happened with her. That is why when they came to India, she was insisting on Ankush's share (which she mentioned her FIL had invested) not the full property.


Ofcourse I do NOT agree To her actions in getting it.

Ankush n kavya's situation r actually same.

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Now that it is established emotional betrayal is a thing, do we believe,

1. Anupama is emotionally betraying Anuj?

2. Anuj betrayed Anupama (althought Anuj-Maaya had nothing between them)?

Edited by Bodhianveshika - 2 years ago
Posted: 2 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: MOTHERHOOD

No. Their marriage is an open marriage. BB does not care who AK sleeps with as long as he provides her with financial security.

That's sad but at least, Barkha-Ankush are a very relatable couple.

They have conflicts, they have unresolved issues, both have boundaries set and both know the reality of their marriage.

No one tries to overcome the issues because they both are aware that they have gone beyond repair point.

Barkha won't forgive Ankush, but she won't suffer from his cgeating. She gets what she wants from their marriage. Kapadia name, status n money.

Ankush got his freedom of choice n freedom to live as he wishes.


For me, i can relate to THIS couple rather sacrificial couples ( Maan, kintosh...)

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Posted: 2 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: Bodhianveshika

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Now that it is established emotional betrayal is a thing, do we believe,

1. Anupama is emotionally betraying Anuj?

2. Anuj betrayed Anupama (althought Anuj-Maaya had nothing between them)?


I don't agree with woman using a man's wealth when she can't offer anything in return. If barkha can't love n support ankush in his tough times she has no right to claim on his property n especially his brother's property. Same way Barkha was never concerned for anuj's wellbeing too in paralysis n depression state so why she wants to enjoy on his wealth.

And barkha wanted to use anuj's money for misappropriation like anupama said that her project showed over use of funds n wasn't justified in project report n anuj too agreed. Barkha doesn't want money for survival she wants money for luxury. Even maya was shown to stand on her feet for her child n anupama too started with simple jobs. If barkha had issues with her career being jeopardize she would have taken steps to correct but all she cares is usurping others wealth.



Anupama is not shown to be having romantic emotions for vanraj n neither anuj was shown to have any romantic feeling for Maya.

Anupama kind of sympathizes with kavya rather than vanraj n is manipulating him to accept the child even though he is suffocated. It can't be love.

Anuj was always irritated around maya. So it wasn't love either.

Actually it's a daily soap that's why we see so much interfere of outsiders in a home n in every couple. In real life nothing as such happens.

Like in GHKKPM n TMD u will see bhabhi trying to be close to devar or Jeth n no family members noticing or objecting. In real life family never tolerated such things n easily notices.

Edited by naaznin - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: naaznin


I don't agree with woman using a man's wealth when she can't offer anything in return. If barkha can't love n support ankush in his tough times she has no right to claim on his property n especially his brother's property.

Again, this based on assumption that she did not support Ankush whereas he, in no clear terms mentioned that in the past they endured things together before things went south.

Wrapping up things in US to come to India was a joint decision, seeking Anuj's wealth was a joint decision but just because Ankush eventually became a cheerleader, he got the redemption? Also, if he so cared, he could have exposed Barkha and Adhik infront of Anuj and severe ties with them.


Same way Barkha was never concerned for anuj's wellbeing too in paralysis n depression state so why she wants to enjoy on his wealth.

You mean she did nothing just like his own wife? Who was busy serving Shahs?

Atleast she took care of him and Choti Anu when both parents were absent. Infact she was the first to notice Choti Anu's nightmares and anxiety while both her parents were ignorant.


And barkha wanted to use anuj's money for misappropriation like anupama said that her project showed over use of funds n wasn't justified in project report n anuj too agreed. Barkha doesn't want money for survival she wants money for luxury.

Meaning the same way Samar was given 10 lakhs to "revive" the same Dence Ecedemy that turned out to fund Paritosh's treatment worth lakhs? (Here Anuj is to be blamed equally).

Or the funds taken by Paritosh from realtors using Kapadia name? Or taking over the entire empire from Malavika under the garb of false love?

Furthermore, she found the financial misappropriation by one look at a proposal but couldn't find misappropriation in her own Dence Ecedemy or Kapadia Empire even after ALL these days?


Even maya was shown to stand on her feet for her child n anupama too started with simple jobs. If barkha had issues with her career being jeopardize she would have taken steps to correct but all she cares is usurping others wealth.

Exactly how? I agree they could have shown how despite the odds a woman can find her way. (I would credit Rakhi more here.) But then, that would make both these women more credible than the lead. Even now, these women stand more credibility😆.


Ofcourse Maaya's is a success story and that is why they had to introduce the vampish nature to make Anupama look the bigger person.


Anupama's is the worst example. But if we are going there, both her teaching jobs were a consequence of recommendation (which she did not fulfill), YouTube Dence channel was built by Samar-Nandini, Dence Ecedemy was on property received as inheritance, financial support was through the then friend, now husband, Anuj waiving off any loans (to the tune of lakhs).


Anupama is not shown to be having romantic emotions for vanraj n neither anuj was shown to have any romantic feeling for Maya.

But somehow, she still finds herself following and empathising with Vanraj whenever he is shattered but never extends the same courtesy to her own sachcha pyaar husband, strange.


Anupama kind of sympathizes with kavya rather than vanraj n is manipulating him to accept the child even though he is suffocated. It can't be love.

Ok, let us say it is not love with Vanraj but a state where she expresses her hardest times, her pain to, knowing he would understand but Not her husband. The same person who emotionally abused her until a year ago, sure.

She only shares with her husband her anxiety about her children and where her mayka need some support.

Anuj was always irritated around maya. So it wasn't love either.

Actually it's a daily soap that's why we see so much interfere of outsiders in a home n in every couple. In real life nothing as such happens.

Like in GHKKPM n TMD u will see bhabhi trying to be close to devar or Jeth n no family members noticing or objecting. In real life family never tolerated such things n easily notices.

My limited point here is, Anupama is anything but an ideal to go by.

The other characters on the show like Rakhi and Barkha have faced far worse situations and emerged stronger and are more reliable than the female lead who comes across as a complete hypocrite.

She cannot be an example of the woman of today from any strata of society.

Edited by Bodhianveshika - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
#16

Originally posted by: Bodhianveshika

My limited point here is, Anupama is anything but an ideal to go by.

The other characters on the show like Rakhi and Barkha have faced far worse situations and emerged stronger and are more reliable than the female lead who comes across as a complete hypocrite.

She cannot be an example of the woman of today from any strata of society.


I think u r not watching the show n listening to dialogues. Ankush many times said barkha never supported him in his bad phase n barkha always taunted him for being a failure.

In today's episode too barkha said ankush didn't had lakhs n crore to divorce her which implies all she cares only about is money n is not divorcing nor because she is married to ankush but because he is anuj kapadia's brother.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: naaznin


I think u r not watching the show n listening to dialogues. Ankush many times said barkha never supported him in his bad phase n barkha always taunted him for being a failure.

In today's episode too barkha said ankush didn't had lakhs n crore to divorce her which implies all she cares only about is money n is not divorcing nor because she is married to ankush but because he is anuj kapadia's brother.


Either the episodes earlier were incorrect or the ones now are. Or we choose to cherrypick?

Just to also clarify atleast from what is shown, Her brother did not throw her out for financial misappropriation. After her parents' untimely, her brother took over the property and threw them both out making them homeless overnight.

Barkha also mentioned that Ankush has always, repeatedly hurt her, even promised to keep the relation and his son away from them. She also, in no clear terms, told that she has no family to fall back on.

Adhik also mentioned that Barkha never got love or respect in the relationship.

It is the same lady Anuj referred to as a loving Maa samaan Bhabhi. It is a different thing that he also never showed any such respect and it was only words.

Who in her place would have become any different?

So, in such a situation what was she to do with the responsibility of 2 young kids? Kewal pyaar ya himmat se paet nahin bharta. She knows what it is being penniless and hence she wants to be financially secure.


What is surprising is,

1. Barkha has become the justification of the extra marital affair and Ankush bringing home his son.

2. The whole plot has made Vanraj a victim and Barkha, a gold digger👏.

3. Justifying Anupama being a secret keeper of her ex-abusive husband.

4. If Anuj were to have an extramarital affair or brings home his child, it is absolutely justified amd Anupama would/should gladly accept both the child and his extra marital affair since he has been emotionally betrayed time and again by Anupama.

5. The weeks of bashing Anuj received for staying with Maaya (although there was not an ounce of love between them) was grossly wrong.

Edited by Bodhianveshika - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
#18

Originally posted by: Bodhianveshika


Either the episodes earlier were incorrect or the ones now are. Or we choose to cherrypick?

Just to also clarify atleast from what is shown, Her brother did not throw her out for financial misappropriation. After her parents' untimely, her brother took over the property and threw them both out making them homeless overnight.

Barkha also mentioned that Ankush has always, repeatedly hurt her, even promised to keep the relation and his son away from them. She also, in no clear terms, told that she has no family to fall back on.

Adhik also mentioned that Barkha never got love or respect in the relationship.

It is the same lady Anuj referred to as a loving Maa samaan Bhabhi. It is a different thing that he also never showed any such respect and it was only words.

Who in her place would have become any different?

So, in such a situation what was she to do with the responsibility of 2 young kids? Kewal pyaar ya himmat se paet nahin bharta. She knows what it is being penniless and hence she wants to be financially secure.


What is surprising is,

1. Barkha has become the justification of the extra marital affair and Ankush bringing home his son.

2. The whole plot has made Vanraj a victim and Barkha, a gold digger👏.

3. Justifying Anupama being a secret keeper of her ex-abusive husband.

4. If Anuj were to have an extramarital affair or brings home his child, it is absolutely justified amd Anupama would/should gladly accept both the child and his extra marital affair since he has been emotionally betrayed time and again by Anupama.

5. The weeks of bashing Anuj received for staying with Maaya (although there was not an ounce of love between them) was grossly wrong.

As per episodes, Barkha was thrown out because she tried to cheat her brother of finances. Again n again ankush has said it. It was never clarified it was parental property or business was build by her brother like anuj. It's also not clarified why was adhik thrown out. May be they were step siblings n property was on legitimate son's name n barkha tried to cheat him hence was thrown out. Barkha even told ankush he is failure n ankush retaliated that why doesn't she go n earn herself. Barkha's project which she offered to anuj had misappropriation of funds n was said by anupama n agreed by anuj. Also the house is not ankush's that she is crying that why illegitimate son was brought there n pushed on her .

Rakhi's case was completely different as she was a successful career woman . And she focused on her career after her husband's EMA n in mean process kinjal got ignored.


Spouse always have option to move out but no parent can't get rid of biological child. It's their responsibility. Even court would give same decision if paternity case is filed.


Kavya was a fool to marry vanraj who just wanted to make her a keep. He never had any intentions to divorce anupama n marry kavya. He never loved her like he claimed.

Even anirudh turned pathetic who without DNA testing told kavya it's vanraj's child. It seems like he was just using her for revenge n didn't loved her like he said in few episodes back.

Edited by naaznin - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
#19

This depends on two things-


1. First if both of them agreed to have an open marriage and it has been communicated clearly to each other. Only Barkha saying she only wants name...doesn't matter. Both Ankush and Barkha should agree that we will have an open marriage from now onwards. If Ankush did not say it anytime then it's not an open marriage.

2. Even in open marriage, both spouse communicate with each other that they are seeing someone and liking. Did Ankush tell Barkha when he was with other women? As per my understanding it came out much later.

I don't watch all the episodes but if they have done it then it's no cheating , if not then cheating.

If They both were not satisfied, they could have had divorce. If they were staying together for kids then both should be loyal to it. Only Barkha making all amends for kids is also not right.

I am not justifying any of them but I think Ankush cheating can't be justified. If he was not satisfied then Barkha was not satisfied either. So both could have decided what to do with more maturity.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#20

Originally posted by: naaznin

As per episodes, Barkha was thrown out because she tried to cheat her brother of finances. Again n again ankush has said it. It was never clarified it was parental property or business was build by her brother like anuj.

Can you please point out when this was told that she was thrown out of the house for misappropriation of funds and cheating her brother?

It was always shown that her brother cheated them by taking over the property and throwing the brother and sister out of their house. Which is why she raised her hand on Ankush when he taunted her about her brother throwing her out and him taking both in.

Infact she mentioned that Ankush-Barkha were college sweethearts with no intentions of marrying and they had to hurry the marriage because they had no place else and no option.

This was in the initial sequence when they were introduced, during Women's Day out, Sara even mentioned that they were doing to Anuj what their brother did to them.

So, I do NOT know where her cheating her brother came from.


It's also not clarified why was adhik thrown out. May be they were step siblings n property was on legitimate son's name n barkha tried to cheat him hence was thrown out.

Barkha even told ankush he is failure n ankush retaliated that why doesn't she go n earn herself.

Barkha mentioned very clearly that neither did he allow her to go out and work nor help in the business nor take her advise to revive it even when he had failed repeatedly but held on to his ego. She even mentions that she has turned bitter over the years due to constant subjugation.


Barkha's project which she offered to anuj had misappropriation of funds n was said by anupama n agreed by anuj.

Surry, Firstly it was presented to Anupama as directed by Anuj. Anupama rejected the "Fashion House" project for 2 reasons:

1. Middle class women do Not buy expensive one-time wear clothing and 2. the required funds "quoted" was too high.

How is this misappropriation of funds? When it is still in estimation and not implementation.

Furthermore, the Phinance Literacy Ph.D caught the estimates were high but couldn't figure out Phinancial misappropriation in a supposedly drowning Dence Ecedemy?

As for Anuj, he has only one sentence "Meri Anu kabhi galat nahin hoti" which has no relevance. He, for ALL that was shown, never saw the proposal.


Also the house is not ankush's that she is crying that why illegitimate son was brought there n pushed on her .

So, if it had been Ankush's House this action was condemnable? And because it is Not Ankush's House, the action is justified? Interesting.

No wonder everyone including Vanraj and Kavya find peace at Kapadia Mansion.


Rakhi's case was completely different as she was a successful career woman . And she focused on her career after her husband's EMA n in mean process kinjal got ignored.

You mean more ignored than she did to her own daughter, Pari? So, Rakhi is also wrong? See even now, we cannot seem to respect the struggles she had to build a life for her and her daughter

Sure. So, an educated mother should use her education to walk outside a loveless marriage but hey, be ready to be accused of ignoring your child because you are busy building a life for yourself and your child.

Matlab chit bhi meri, patt bhi meri👏.


Spouse always have option to move out but no parent can't get rid of biological child. It's their responsibility. Even court would give same decision if paternity case is filed.

What is the relevance to the context?

Yes, a mother cannot get rid of the biological child and hence she stayed on.

So, you mean Because she had a problem with Ankush, she should have walked out of the marriage and risk losing her child as well to a paternity case? Why is she penalised fir Ankush's cheating, again?


Kavya was a fool to marry vanraj who just wanted to make her a keep. He never had any intentions to divorce anupama n marry kavya. He never loved her like he claimed.

Again, relevance to context?

Whether he loved anyone is subject to our speculation. That is something we deduced from his actions but he has been going downtown telling "Maine tumse sachcha pyaar Kiya tha, Kavya" on every occasion that he wants to play victim.

Even anirudh turned pathetic who without DNA testing told kavya it's vanraj's child. It seems like he was just using her for revenge n didn't loved her like he said in few episodes back.

Romil's mother asking Ankush to take his responsibility henceforth and shifting abroad.

How about that?

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We need to come up with a stronger justification for Ankush's actions and criminalise Barkha.

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