Ex Partner ka Rishta - Page 11

Originally posted by: poobaniparvati9

The posts are directed towards people in general who blindly support without listening to other povs, without having replies to logical statements, who twist logic to great extents to support their fav. They are entitled to yaar, no one is stopping them, but the same way you think we always criticise Anupama or don't like her, we think you never do, even when warranted. Please stop taking things so personally, and just allow us to discuss. Unless of course someone personally bullies you, that's unacceptable and you can complain regarding that. Even Anupama criticisers have been harrassed and bullied in the past by the way, so it's not just a one way street.

What I truly look at, in interactions with people is their intentions - and I completely agree with you there - personal attacks, uncalled-for aggression - is what I have the most objection to. I think the true test of character comes in the way one interacts with someone else having an extremely different opinion. Sometimes not interacting might be the best interaction too - when there is hardly any common ground, there is no point trying to convince the other of your opinion.

Having healthy discussions is, I think, a skill that takes time to build - and I feel you have pretty balanced viewpoints!

Originally posted by: poobaniparvati9

@Shah8er - Absolutely agree with you. And on top of that, they always make statements that we don't watch the show properly just because they interpret the show to mean whatever's convenient to them. Or that we defend Anuj, when in fact we've criticised other characters of the show also because we don't blindly support anyone at all, and definitely not the brainless puppy, we aren't like them. Matlab kuch bhi. We can discuss whatever we want to, the same way they want us to ignore (which we won't because our morals and principles don't allow that), they can also ignore our views if it makes no sense to them in spite of us giving paragraphs upon paragraphs of reasoning.

And whoever is talking about discussing the great show or storyline, they themselves say the show makes no sense, no head or tail, there's nothing to discuss beyond problematic things. And half those problematic things Anupama is doing, so who else will we criticise. Again, cognitive thinking skills zero. Just make statements.

But I do agree that opposite views are also important, so I'm glad they exist. Some people put forth views in a sensible way, even if we disagree. But blind stans who merely attack people and give really absurd logic to justify their favourite characters, sorry but we are free to laugh at the said justifications also lol. The same way you are free to continue being an andhbakt.

See, all this logic is essentially wasted because the target audience is incapable of understanding and would keep parroting the same untrue allegations. Tbh no one really is forcing someone else to change their views. If one likes Anupamaa and thinks she can never be wrong, well and good for them. But I see various iterations of the same kind of contention from her fans that only people on the forum hate Anupamaa (clearly false) and that their views are being suppressed (why should others start praising this fictional character just because they are madly enamoured by it). If they are unable to accept contrary viewpoints and only want a place where more and more people agree with them they might as well go on the fan accounts on social media where there will be droves of similar minded people.

Ironically, the behaviour is extremely similar to what is displayed by their idol on screen by wanting to impose everywhere, espousing a flawed ideology, refusing to listen, learn or understand and ultimately crying and blaming everyone else. Sorry but I don't even see the point of finding any common ground with people who'd grab your hand, if you offer a finger. I'll give two instances of the recent past. One where an Anupamaa fan first disputed the veracity of scenes which were actually shown and when rebutted, claimed that she doesn't care about watching the past episodes or whatsoever happened there. This doesn't mean that everyone can be tarred with the same brush but then is there no meeting point. Stay happy in your delusions. Second, when an Anupamaa stan insisted that other fictional characters in the same show as Anupamaa were lying and could not be believed but Anupamaa's actions are beyond doubt. So if they can't even take all the characters at face value in the same show as portrayed by the same makers, what can one even discuss with them because they want everything to exist as per their individual analysis and convenience and yet find a fault if others do that just because the view is opposed to Anupamaa.

Valid criticisms of Anuj or any other character exist, were made in the past and will be done even in the future as well, but it will only be highlighted by them without accepting any of Anupamaa's flaws because they are ultimately positioned on the extreme end and find it impossible to challenge their biases.

Lol kya baat hai personal attack karne wale hi personal attack na karne ka paath padhate haiin

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Koi.fiction l ko blindly support kare ya jaise support kare why some one has problems

Waise mmuhe bhi khuch log ke discussion senseless baseless lagte hai

Usme Zara bhi logic nahi lagta hai

Hello everyone! M new to this forum though I have been a silent reader from a very long time and I absolutely love your sense of humour and perfect analysis about this women "empowering" show and the "inspirational" titular character.

Originally posted by: Ashita5500

Hello everyone! M new to this forum though I have been a silent reader from a very long time and I absolutely love your sense of humour and perfect analysis about this women "empowering" show and the "inspirational" titular character.

Welcome, welcome. Yeah all hail the world's greatest inspirational woman, AnupaMAA

Originally posted by: ShahH8er

Valid criticisms of Anuj or any other character exist, were made in the past and will be done even in the future as well, but it will only be highlighted by them without accepting any of Anupamaa's flaws because they are ultimately positioned on the extreme end and find it impossible to challenge their biases.

Your viewpoints come across as extremely intelligent to me, and I even agree with you, but then..

You know, my only point of concern is - if a very strong 'critical thinkers vs blind fans' narrative emerges, it might blind us to people with extremely different opinions, yet good intentions, and create a lot of divisiveness. (in a general sense)

Sometimes I feel, people whose opinions comes across as very delusional - they might be critically analyzing things the only way they know how, based on their circumstances and life experiences. Maybe they don't even realise how much they are twisting logic to support their opinion, because this can be a very human tendency - where we all have our biases, some more extreme than others. (Not justifying, merely trying to understand.) I definitely have biases I'm just growing to be aware of.

That's why more than the content of the interaction, I care about the manner of interaction. I do realise what you have strong objections is with the manner of interaction as well, but I feel so wary of encouraging the label of a 'blind fan' - in a serious sense.

Then again, I'm not on any social media, so you might be exposed to so much more disturbing viewpoints than me... (I think you are?)

But I do realise there is also a big-picture way of looking at this - that this show has the potential to give such wrong messages to society and not critically thinking enough here can lead to a lot of damage.

I don't even know if this will make any kind of difference, but wished to convey this much.

Originally posted by: strancho

Welcome, welcome. Yeah all hail the world's greatest inspirational woman, AnupaMAA

Originally posted by: SoulSpiller

Your viewpoints come across as extremely intelligent to me, and I even agree with you, but then..

You know, my only point of concern is - if a very strong 'critical thinkers vs blind fans' narrative emerges, it might blind us to people with extremely different opinions, yet good intentions, and create a lot of divisiveness. (in a general sense)

Sometimes I feel, people whose opinions comes across as very delusional - they might be critically analyzing things the only way they know how, based on their circumstances and life experiences. Maybe they don't even realise how much they are twisting logic to support their opinion, because this can be a very human tendency - where we all have our biases, some more extreme than others. (Not justifying, merely trying to understand.) I definitely have biases I'm just growing to be aware of.

That's why more than the content of the interaction, I care about the manner of interaction. I do realise what you have strong objections is with the manner of interaction as well, but I feel so wary of encouraging the label of a 'blind fan' - in a serious sense.

Then again, I'm not on any social media, so you might be exposed to so much more disturbing viewpoints than me... (I think you are?)

But I do realise there is also a big-picture way of looking at this - that this show has the potential to give such wrong messages to society and not critically thinking enough here can lead to a lot of damage.

I don't even know if this will make any kind of difference, but wished to convey this much.

I appreciate you trying to bridge the gap and honestly I have tried the same at times. But what I strongly believe is that it depends a lot on the person on the other side (applies to all). Like I said in the previous post, one can't tar everyone with the same brush. There have been people who have commented quite logically and with whom, one can have a discussion even with opposing viewpoints. For example, if I reply to you right now that I owe you no clarification for what I say and imply you to buzz off (iykwim), would you want to continue the conversation and still try to understand what I'm saying. If I were in your place, I'd simply save my efforts.

A small clarification here. At least for me personally, the stated term of a blind fan was used to refer mostly to accounts on Twitter, Instagram and the likes. It's a very simple assumption for me that 9/9.5 times out of 10, the person commenting here on the forum, even with a contrary viewpoint is not likely to be one or who is pushing any agenda if we talk in terms of having a balanced view. Because they will be commenting sanely and putting forward their points. There will always be the one odd exception and we have to learn to live with that. But they have to as well, which was the essence of the post.

Talking generally, I see an underlying problem of excessive hero/heroine worship which is pervasive through society. We want to look up to idols, consider them perfect and worthy of emulation and be in denial when their flaws are revealed. Though we should ideally be seeing them as humans capable of making mistakes and not lose all regard unless the error is grave. But amidst this whole setting, conflict and divide is natural. Everyone will always be on different points in this spectrum. X may see this as a show with a problematic message, Y may see it as daily timepass and Z may be relating each aspect to real life because they have completely imagined the character to be real. Therein arises an argument with someone who sees it through a different perspective. X can still reconcile with Y but maybe never with Z. As you said in a previous post, sometimes you just need to cease interaction

I found this heera in my bookmarks (I am cleaning up my bookmarks so I thought I should share with my forum chingus)

https://twitter.com/Main_Khamakha/status/1539946827163717632?s=20