Much awaited Pakhi and Anupama conversation but.... - Page 2

Totally agree.

Even I felt this was not the time for Anupamaa to say all those things. Definately what she said was right, but like she said, right thing said at the wrong time can be construed as wrong. She could have just calmed her down and would have made her understand later on.

And she should stop telling everyone that accept Kavya, let them decide if they want to accept Kavya or not, its just irks me when she becomes lawyer of VanYa.

Today Pakhi was not in a state of mind to understand anything.

Also it was wrong on part of Anupamaa to think that Pakhi is not badtameez because she never misbehaved with baa, bapuji, her father or any one else at home, and according to her, pakhi misbehaving with her mother does not count.

Vanraj never stopped Pakhi when she misbehaved with Anu, but today he feels she is badtameez, because she misbehaved with him and Kavya, how convinient.

It is Baa and Vanraj who are responsible for this behaviour and patriarchal thinking of Pakhi and Toshu both. They has always seen her mother being ridiculed by both of them. But Anu is still at fault for never correcting them when they both insulted her.

Both these kids are pure selfish, kyunki for them their mother is right if she supporting them, otherwise rest all the time she is wrong.

It is only anupama today episode undertand pakhi and Even console her by huggging her

Intially anupama ne pakhi ko pyaar se samjhe ki koshish ki aur ise pehle puraane episode mein bhi anupama ne pakhi ko pyaar ko samjane ki koshish k jub pakhi galat hoti thi i but pakhi ne hamesha anupama ki baat ko ignore kiya aur anupama ki baat sune bina woh wahaan se chali gayi

Aakhir pakhi kyon nahin baat sunna chahtti anupama ke baat ko ? Kyoni anupama ki baat pakhi ki man ki baat ki according nahi ki hai hai isliye woh nahin sunna chahti that is whypakhi is not able to understand?

Pakhi wohi baat kyon sunna chahti hai jo uske mann ki ho

Aise to har baar hoga jub bhi anupama pakhi ke favour mein nahin bolegi use scold karegi to pakhi aise hysterical act karegi aur aise to anupama kabhi bhi nahin bol paayegi pakhi ko kyonki anupama ko. Darr hoga agar main pakhi ko scold karoongi to pakhi khuch apne kar na le to aakhir anupama pakhi ko kub samjhaye ye a scold kare . Akhir anupama ke paas mauka kub ho pakhi ko scold karene ka . Phir aise to anupama ke paas mauka kabhi nahin hoga pakhi ko.scold karne ka ya samjhane ka kyonki pakhi to aise hysterical behave karegi agar koi uske favour mein na bolega

Yeh baat bahut galat hai pakhi ki l har baar woh apne favour mein hi baat sunna chahti hai aur uske favour mein baat nahin boli gayi to to woh hysterical behave karegi aur wahaan se chali jaayegi . Yeh bahut galat baat hai

I remember when anupama said to pakhi u should not touch kinjal belonging without kinjal permission to pakhi gusse mein kinjal ki dress throw karke chali gayi ki mujhe nahin pehna

Jub pakhi ne kinjal ke dwaara banaya hua poha ko kharaab kaha to. Samar ne pakhi ko scold kiya to pakhi gusse se uth ke wahaan se chali gayi

Kyon yeh dono baatein pakhi ke favour mein nahin thi . Aur us time to pakhi kavya aur vanraj ki wajahon se hurt nahin thi tub kyon nahin pakhi ne baat suni anupama ki aur samar ki.

And today when anupama enter in pakhi room and hug pakhi tub to pakhi normal behave kar rahi thi kyonki tub pakhi ko laga ki anupama uske favour mein bolegi aur jub anupama ne uske favour mein nahin boli to woh hysterical behave karne lagi. This is so wrong from pakhi side

Originally posted by: piyu008

Yup Agreed!👏 Very well written.

Today was not the day, I have also waited for this conversation for a long- long time. But Pakhi's mental state was not at all ready to take that in after what happened.

I had the same thought, Anu just explained to Vanraj that Pakhi is frightened, confused, and insecure. So no matter how right the conversation was - but it was not appropriate for the time.

Kavya nicely manipulated the conversation and Pakhi although being right this time - couldn't prove her point. It would have been nice if any elder noticed the desperation she had when she accused Kavya of lying.

There were many times when Pakhi had crossed the line, this whole conversation should have started back then only. But most of the time Anu never raised any objection when Pakhi was being mean.

You are also right about the notion of what women are supposed to do and what men are to do. Even today in the house, the only people working in the kitchen are Kinjal and Anu. You never see Toshu entering - or Anu encouraging any man of the house to get their own dish, or even serve their own food.

So it is quite obvious for all children to feel that it is a quite normal lifestyle.

PS: Vanraj is equally responsible for correct parenting if not more in the case of Pakhi. I avoided mentioning him - because there is a long list and he is disappointment.

Anupama herself told Vanraj that he should not have been so harsh with Pakhi and yes she was right. Vanraj had no right to insult Pakhi in front of everyone like that when he is the one who Pakhi trusts the most. But if Anupama understands that, then what was the need to get Pakhi to understand her father's situation and Kavya and to get Pakhi to agree with their relationship or call Pakhi out on her behaviour towards Anupama at the same point. Instead of pointing out everything to Pakhi why not hear patiently what Pakhi was trying to say about Kavya. Then later on when she understands and is better talk to her.

Originally posted by: sweet_tania

Jab pehli baar pakhi ne kavya ke liye uska disrespect kiya ussi din pankhi ko bestie chahe kitni bhi pasand ho i am your mother you should not disrespect me yeh baat batana chahiye tha.

Jab pehli bar pankhi ne baap ke extra marital affair ke baad bhi maa ko blame and disrespect kiya tab bhi anupama ne usko insult karne diya, ek bhi anupama ne pankhi ko yeh nai bola ki i am your mother and you should not disrespect me.

Basically pakhi ko time time par jab woh apni maa ki insut kiye ja rahi thi tab uski maa ne usko sahi galay kya hota hai woh baat nai samjaya.

Bacha jis bhi umar ka ho, maa ki respect karna aana he chahiye and agar bacche ko maa ki respect karna nai aata ho to maa ko immediately bacche ko sidha karna chahiye. Itna late nai karna chahiye.

Exactly my point. Jab pehli baar Pakhi ne Anupama ki insult ki, jab woh EMA ke bare main sab kuch janne ke baad bhi papa papa kar rahin thi tab nahin samjhaya. Jab woh Kavya ko apne school lekar chali jati ya Anupama ke efforts ki uski care ki respect nahi karti thi tab nahin kiya tab to sweeto sweeto karke uske pamper kiya. To ab use yeh sab bolke kya hoga?? tabhi agar usko toka hota to

woh is tarah aaj behave nahin karti.

i have not watched the episode yet because it will be on at 8pm uk time . but because i am a mother and had brought up my all 4 nearly by my self because my husband passed away very long time ago so i have been itnto these situations a lot but i think it was not right time to give a lecture to Pakhi at this time first her dad ema ,he left the home for his g f, divorce between the parents going on , suddenly she found out reality of kavia ,kavia was the one who was provoking her because of kavia she left from her house and on top of that her dad shouted at her because of the villain kavia and no one is trying to understand her what she wants to say what is going into her head at this time she needed security and someone to listen to her pain and try to understand it . keep your lectures away for awhile and try to be her best friend so she can share her emotions with you but they are showing that even in one night of incident Anupma got the phd in every subject . sorry what ever i felt i said it but one more thing if she is tooo close to her dad any-ama should ask vanraj to talk to her nicely why she is behaving like that hopefully she will listen to her dad .its very crucial age really i use to feel that my bones have been crushed but now i laugh at my self .

Originally posted by: Tvfanatic85

Exactly my point. Jab pehli baar Pakhi ne Anupama ki insult ki, jab woh EMA ke bare main sab kuch janne ke baad bhi papa papa kar rahin thi tab nahin samjhaya. Jab woh Kavya ko apne school lekar chali jati ya Anupama ke efforts ki uski care ki respect nahi karti thi tab nahin kiya tab to sweeto sweeto karke uske pamper kiya. To ab use yeh sab bolke kya hoga?? tabhi agar usko toka hota to

woh is tarah aaj behave nahin karti.

Jo words stern way mai anupama ko bolna chahiye tha woh sab se pehli bar kinjal ne bola tha. Sweetudi ko bura lagega yeh soch kar sab sweetudi se kuch zyada he pyar se baat karte the that was the reason sweetudi ko kabhi realise he nai hua ki uske baap ko bhi khana banana aana chahiye, jaise uski maa ko banana aata hai and usko khud ko khana banana aana chahiye.

Jaise anupama ne aj firmly samjaya waise he usko pakhi ko pehle he din tokna chahiye tha ki apni maa ke sath tum aise disrespectful way mai baat nai kar sakti. Jab kavya ko apne school le kar gayi ya anupama jaise gawar hai waise usko treat kar rahi thi tabhi bhi ne usko jaise aj kaha waise firmly nai kaha tha ulta uske liye mari sweetudi bol bol kar sandwich and chocolate milk pilaya.

Pakhi unn logo maise hai jo mari sweetudi vala language kabhi nai samjegi. Jaise kinjal ne stern way mai usko bola tha waise anupama ko day 1 se bolna chahiye tha.

Anupama ne pakhi ko kabhi nai sikhaya ki maa ki izzat karni chahiye, maa se respectfully baat karna chahiye isiliye ye ladki mooh utha kar uske baap and apni maa ke sautan ke ghar rehne gayi thi.

I think this was the perfect opportunity for Anupama to give Pakhi a reality check. Back then when she left home to stay with Vanraj, as a mother Anupama was hurt. But she respected her daughter's choice to be with her father coz no matter what bad blood exists between her and Vanraj, she would never let it affect her kids. She respected Pakhi's decision to be with her father in dignity and let her go. I agree Pakhi's anger at Kavya is justified after she spoke that crap at the party but her behavior was not. Pakhi is always like its my way or high way. And that cannot be the case everytime. She was not fighting for her mom. If Kavya had been nice to her, she would have been cozying up to her in the party.

Well I'll say it took anupamaa 25 yaers to realize how backward she had become it s really a big change for a women like her to start moving forward with so many backward people on her life

Originally posted by: BeyondHorizon

I think this was the perfect opportunity for Anupama to give Pakhi a reality check. Back then when she left home to stay with Vanraj, as a mother Anupama was hurt. But she respected her daughter's choice to be with her father coz no matter what bad blood exists between her and Vanraj, she would never let it affect her kids. She respected Pakhi's decision to be with her father in dignity and let her go. I agree Pakhi's anger at Kavya is justified after she spoke that crap at the party but her behavior was not. Pakhi is always like its my way or high way. And that cannot be the case everytime. She was not fighting for her mom. If Kavya had been nice to her, she would have been cozying up to her in the party.

Agreed had Kavya been nice and would have got along with Pakhi then she would never behave this way. But since living with Kavya is giving her issues she suddenly wants to be with Anupama. But my point is this reality check should have come a long back when Pakhi always kept looking down at Anupama when she insulted Anupama at every single point when she found out about the EMA but still choose to be with his father and side with him. Anupama never had any issues with Pakhi regarding that she was matured about the whole thing but was is justified for Pakhi to openly declare her support. Should she not have considered her mother's feelings. At all those times why didn't Anupama gave her this check why today only??

Today when Pakhi was vulnerable when she is feeling like she is losing her family, her father who is her hero shouted at her in front of everybody nobody supported her in front of Kavya, when she was hurt by the fact the house that she came to leaving her mother behind had no place for her. Her so-called bestie doesn't want her. Yes, she is old enough to understand all these things but it is also the age where kids do rash stuff. Today maybe Pakhi needed better support that this reality check.

Before whenever Pakhi was called out by Anupama it was just a small fight at home not this big. Anupama should have done this a longtime ago.

Originally posted by: Laysha

Well I'll say it took anupamaa 25 yaers to realize how backward she had become it s really a big change for a women like her to start moving forward with so many backward people on her life

Backward people like these will always be there that is what the real fight is all about.