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Posted: 8 years ago

For Kerim, I'd simply say that his current behavior is justified to a certain limit but no matter what, I just don't like to see the coldness between him and Meryem. 💔 Though I know he can't stay upset with her for a longer time. 😳 I agree that he can't be expected to think rationally at present moment since a human does have certain flaws/shortcomings. I criticized Kerim for his behavior towards Fatmagul as well but I even know that he wouldn't have done such a thing if he was in his conscious state of mind... But because he was already disturbed enough due to existing chaos of Yasarans' scheming and Vural's murder, Fahrettin's sudden arrival in his life & Anise's letter simply fuelled up his difficulties and ultimately he pushed himself towards drinking and keeping away from everyone, even from Gullie. 😭

Right from the moment when he left the room after Fatmagul slapped him; he was extremely surprised and disappointed at himself and even felt miserable for her. 😔 One could clearly see the embarrassment on his face when he woke up at Gul Mutfagi and quickly ran towards home so that he didn't have to face Gullie. 💔 But the opposite happened, and I'd say that it happened for good. His apology to Fatmagul was pretty much genuine, obviously, but she was too hurt to say anything to him at that very moment. 😒

Talking of Fatmagul, like I've said many times, I don't like her talking cheerfully to Mustafa and being too thankful to him, that too in front of Kerim. 👎🏼 Yet I felt bad for her when she cried her heart out to Meryem and said that Kerim keeps asking her about Mustafa and thinks that she still loves him. 🥺 Obviously she doesn't love him anymore or doesn't even think about him, so Kerim's suspicion is simply a waste. But only if he thought wisely, he wouldn't hurt Gullie by judging her on the basis of Anise's letter.

Regarding Fatmagul's attitude towards Kerim, I think that she's just being fair towards him, though as viewers we have seen both of them travel a long way from being complete strangers to building trust on each other & then coming in a friendly zone, and we can obviously get a little frustrated if Gullie doesn't show a wifely affection and care towards him. 🤔 Even I feel a bit disappointed at this but thinking from her point of view, she'll still need some time to open up herself to Kerim, though I wish she could now be vocal to him about her feelings... 😔 I really want to see that day when she opens out her heart to him instead of sharing her feelings with the doctor.

One good thing done by Kerim yesterday was that he got rid of that letter. Every time he would read it, he could think of nothing except his parents' unhappy marriage and his marriage to Fatmagul being the exact case. 🤔

Also, I agree when Fatmagul used the word badtameezi' instead of non-sense, it completely changed the meaning of her sentence. There's a pretty good difference between both words but it seems like the ones translating the dialogues are trying to bring too much negative sense in certain scenes. 😵

Erdogan never fails to bring amusement to the serious scenes of Yasarans, all thanks to Kaan's amazing acting and his dubbing artist's perfectly matched voice. 😛 It was really funny how Erdogan was getting ready as if they all are leaving for a marriage when they were supposed to go to the prosecutor! 😆 And the way he promised Hilmiye to bring her a good news, I thought that he was gonna exclaim something like "Maan maine aapke liye ek achhi bahu dhoond li hai!" 🤣 (Emphasis to Khandaan ki Bahu from Khandaani Hospital :P) 😆

And I don't know how Erdogan is able to look so cute when Hilmiye scolds him for annoying Risat. 😆 Kaan is to be credited here of course! 😳

The spy guy Yasar is once again on detective mode and I'm pretty sure that Munir must have sent him to the village to collect some new information regarding the murderer. Chalo this man has some brains to suspect Mustafa, though he was shrugged off by Serdar. 😆 But I absolutely loved that "Oh shit, not again!" look on Musti's face when Serdar told him about Yasar and then he immediately decided to leave the country! 🤣 😆 With only Hacer's support, little earnings by dealing in shares and the fear of police on his head, he should consider to spare some time and die instead of running abroad. 🤬

And God, the adult diaries of Yasaran Khandaan! 🤣 🤣 Seems like every man in this family is a tharki; I actually now wonder about Rifat too. 😆 Those pictures and CD received by Perihan must indeed be a nightmare to her... 😆 And even then she considered living with Risat. 😵

Also, has anyone noticed how Vural is not shown in the flashbacks now-a-days? 🤔 Since the day he has been killed off, there have been certain flashbacks, like the night when he was murdered, they only show Kerim and Mustafa and yesterday when Meltem mentioned that Mukaddes came to meet Risat when everyone was having dinner, they only show the Yasaran brothers in shock, but Vural too was present there and he was equally terrified at that moment. Or is it just me who feels so? 🤔

I thought maybe through flashbacks we could get to see him. 😒

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Posted: 8 years ago
Dummy's Guide to Tension
*Fault lines for a split*

Histrionics of hearing
Selim being tutored like a kid by Munir.
*inner voice- is it admission to kindergarten?*
Dummy - Tension, tension go away.
Little Selim wants to play. LMAO

Ants in pants
Risat nervous of the case proceeds. Impatience with Erdo delay
*inner voice - You mean hanky panty?
Dummy- but he wears diapers.LMAO

Comedy in crisis
Erdo singing...I gotta good feeling Helmiye wonders...on the Khush khabar
*inner voice - Ah!Bina Shaadi ke bache*
Dummy - Erdo you read my msg to @Shanaya??

Stress for Sale
Helmiye is ready for selling her home...with her memories
Dummy - Bunglow hai ya castle?
*inner voice- Haan sub kuch hai except shanti*

Accounts ki alarm
Musti unable keep track of his transactions
*inner voice - current, savings &demat bhi?*
Dummy - Yeah...current is Hacer, Savings is Meltem &Demat is FG (that he trades her for everything).Sic

Dummy Alert : Is he trying to flee the country like VJM- Very Jittery Mustafa!! *Kill me*

Suspense at Sea
Yasir acting like Inspector Clouseau. Rofl
Serdar sensing trouble
*inner voice- searching for clues you mean??
Dummy- humming pink panther theme. ROFL

Witness Vendetta
Quality time spent by Ender, Meltem & Kadir
*inner voice - you mean they ate Kwality ice creams?*
Dummy - yeah of flavours called Selim, MQ, Erdo & slurp Vural.

Pressure from papa
Deg F is truly Sir Rajni.
*inner voice- Bashaa again?*
Dummy- all 150 movies same dialogues. So make your choice. Lol

Fear in flames
The parcel had the extra curricular report card of Yesarans. Perihaan's face was like when parents worse fears come true...child's exams results. Rofl
*inner voice - at least main exams pass na*
Dummy- Main chodo...this was practicals of dancing, drinking...n what not etc.

Dummy Alert: That secret locker in the wall was so OTT...like a 1970 movie having revolving cupboards etc*Heera Panna*

Pins & Needles
Dummy - i know this!! FG knitting that sweater.
*inner voice- do you want remain @ DT or not?*

Although Kerim walks away after the hook from FG, there is lot of apprehensions & discord. Maryem suitably nullifies the situation.
@Shalu, Pahal ...thanks for all translations.

Dummy Moment: FG calls the slap as self defense...not her fault. But the fracture lines are growing stronger. The USFG*United States of FatmaGul* is looking completely divided, when Kadir brings more n more positive developments of the case. Paradoxical...

Dummy Alert : Kerim gets slapped on left cheek always. *first Maryem after rape incident*second Gullie after forced hug*
Dummy Gyan : Did they read that most bears are right handed & when they attack...a left jab is most effective. Lol
*inner voice - what about teddy bear*
Dummy- You mean Kerim...hugs only!!;-)

Kerim finds another couch to sleep, Gullie finds another reason not to sleep.
And they meet again with misunderstanding. Kerim being decent doesn't squabble only to mind his business.
Of course his aloofness further increases conflicts. How she will deal it this time is something for us to watch out. Kerim is in no mood to look back. He is now like a one man army fighting his own parity.

Dummy Moment : When Kerim walks back to the sea front to remove the fault lines by splitting the letter. Very significant scene.
For me its like turning off that history channel.

Dummy's Dedication to K &F
I took a walk on a Saturday night
Fog in the air
Just to make my mind seem clear
Where do I go from here?
I see my breath pushing steam through the air
Shaking hands run through my hair
My fears, where do I go from here?
Is it my fault, is it my fault?
We've been missing each other
We've been missing each other

-Imagine Dragons

Engin you aced in the conflicting scenes ...esp after over hearing Gullie. That jerk n react was too good.
Beren with those questions on her face...but not bringing to her mouth...was brilliant.
Hilal capt of this ship...you know your navigation skills!!!

PS: MQ is always lip twitching, nail biting, boob shaking etc giving tensions to our khoon while she gets sukoon thinking of jawani khoon!!!
Edited by DefLeppard - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: MohabbatGirl.x



The Indian Dubbing Artists will dub the Turkish words and phrases in accordance to the Indian Audiences and what they'll understand better. You should know that its the first time India is watching Turkish shows on Indian TV and majority aren't online viewers like most of us and still watch it regularly on TV.

Every foreign series which is dubbed here in India, has some kicks of our Desipann to make it more appealing and interesting. On this thread, members have a good knowledge of Turkish words but a large section of audience doesn't so they won't be able to connect if Turkish phrases are kept intact.

Similarly when Indian shows are dubbed abroad, they add a kick of their own language and that is not some big deal.
And I don't think, ppl have a problem with that its actually funny yet amusing to hear then say such dialogues spcly the artist for Kaan as Erdogan and even Munir like we've discussed many times on this thread.

I agree they mess up with the translation but next time, think rationally before being so rude and singling out every time.


I actually love the dubbing artists and certain dubbed dialogues of Fatmagul. 😳 Like we've already discussed so many times before, each character here has been given perfect voice and the dialogues are also nicely translated... Of course certain FaRim scenes are exception where the dialogues have been mistranslated badly. 🤔

But I don't think the dubbing artists are to be held responsible for this because they simply say the dialogues given to them, I guess the translation work is done by some other set of people. 😊

The reason why we love to see the Yasarans scenes as much as we love to see FaRim scenes is just because of all the mess they cause and ultimately start arguing amongst themselves while throwing those hilarious dialogues to one another! 🤣

There was this scene where Erdogan sings "Yeh duniya yeh mehfil.." to Vural, though in original version he sang some kindergarten song to him... While some were pissed off that they should have included the original song, I actually loved it and Kaan's expressions were just bang on! ⭐️

So all in all, I'm absolutely enjoying the dubbed dialogues and voices and now I don't even remember the days when I used to get annoyed by Gullie's dubbing voice... The storyline is too intriguing to notice these little flaws! 😳
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Shanaya Lannister & all
Another thought is that for FG is all overwhelmed after meeting Kerim in person. Those letters were easy to write , express yourself. Typical e-valor.
Or maybe the inhibitions of meeting a pen friend in person...although you know everything abt that invisible friend. A good ice breaker was needed. Infact it was in the making...at the kichten...MQ the witchy bitch screamed Deg F's arrival. Party popper!!
If KF had spent some good time that night...they wanted to have tea outside...verify their letter & lateral thoughts...it would have been magic.
Edited by DefLeppard - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: DefLeppard

Dummy's Guide to Tension
*Fault lines for a split*

Histrionics of hearing
Selim being tutored like a kid by Munir.
*inner voice- is it admission to kindergarten?*
Dummy - Tension, tension go away.
Little Selim wants to play. LMAO

Ants in pants
Risat nervous of the case proceeds. Impatience with Erdo delay
*inner voice - You mean hanky panty?
Dummy- but he wears diapers.LMAO

Comedy in crisis
Erdo singing...I gotta good feeling Helmiye wonders...on the Khush khabar
*inner voice - Ah!Bina Shaadi ke bache*
Dummy - Erdo you read my msg to @Shanaya??

Stress for Sale
Helmiye is ready for selling her home...with her memories
Dummy - Bunglow hai ya castle?
*inner voice- Haan sub kuch hai except shanti*

Accounts ki alarm
Musti unable keep track of his transactions
*inner voice - current, savings &demat bhi?*
Dummy - Yeah...current is Hacer, Savings is Meltem &Demat is FG (that he trades her for everything).Sic

Dummy Alert : Is he trying to flee the country like VJM- Very Jittery Mustafa!! *Kill me*

Suspense at Sea
Yasir acting like Inspector Clouseau. Rofl
Serdar sensing trouble
*inner voice- searching for clues you mean??
Dummy- humming pink panther theme. ROFL

Witness Vendetta
Quality time spent by Ender, Meltem & Kadir
*inner voice - you mean they ate Kwality ice creams?*
Dummy - yeah of flavours called Selim, MQ, Erdo & slurp Vural.

Pressure from papa
Deg F is truly Sir Rajni.
*inner voice- Bashaa again?*
Dummy- all 150 movies same dialogues. So make your choice. Lol

Fear in flames
The parcel had the extra curricular report card of Yesarans. Perihaan's face was like when parents worse fears come true...child's exams results. Rofl
*inner voice - at least main exams pass na*
Dummy- Main chodo...this was practicals of dancing, drinking...n what not etc.

Dummy Alert: That secret locker in the wall was so OTT...like a 1970 movie having revolving cupboards etc*Heera Panna*

Pins & Needles
Dummy - i know this!! FG knitting that sweater.
*inner voice- do you want remain @ DT or not?*

Although Kerim walks away after the hook from FG, there is lot of apprehensions & discord. Maryem suitably nullifies the situation.
@Shalu, Pahal ...thanks for all translations.

Dummy Moment: FG calls the slap as self defense...not her fault. But the fracture lines are growing stronger. The USFG*United States of FatmaGul* is looking completely divided, when Kadir brings more n more positive developments of the case. Paradoxical...

Dummy Alert : Kerim gets slapped on left cheek always. *first Maryem after rape incident*second Gullie after forced hug*
Dummy Gyan : Did they read that most bears are right handed & when they attack...a left jab is most effective. Lol
*inner voice - what about teddy bear*
Dummy- You mean Kerim...hugs only!!;-)

Kerim finds another couch to sleep, Gullie finds another reason not to sleep.
And they meet again with misunderstanding. Kerim being decent doesn't squabble only to mind his business.
Of course his aloofness further increases conflicts. How she will deal it this time is something for us to watch out. Kerim is in no mood to look back. He is now like a one man army fighting his own parity.

Dummy Moment : When Kerim walks back to the sea front to remove the fault lines by splitting the letter. Very significant scene.
For me its like turning off that history channel.


Dummy's Dedication to K &F
I took a walk on a Saturday night
Fog in the air
Just to make my mind seem clear
Where do I go from here?
I see my breath pushing steam through the air
Shaking hands run through my hair
My fears, where do I go from here?
Is it my fault, is it my fault?
We've been missing each other
We've been missing each other

-Imagine Dragons

Engin you aced in the conflicting scenes ...esp after over hearing Gullie. That jerk n react was too good.
Beren with those questions on her face...but bringing to her mouth...was brilliant.
Hilal capt of this ship...you know your navigation skills!!!

PS: MQ is always lip twitching, nail biting, boob shaking etc giving tensions to our khoon while she gets sukoon thinking of jawani khoon!!!


Seriously speechless after reading this! 🤣 🤣 🤣

I feel like making each word in bold and writing @bold part is my favorite! 😆 😆 "Tension tension go away, little Selim wants to play!" 😆 Erdogan giving khush khabri to Hilmiye without being married... I guess this pislik read your previous message too when you wrote that Erdogan achhe bache banane laayak hai! 🤪 Hilmiye's castle has everything except shanti.. 😆 Musti's accounts record and Pressure from papa cracked me up hard! 🤣 🤣

Talking of ice-creams, I'd surely go for... Slurp Vural! 🤪 *feeling hungry for ice-cream* *runs to kwality walls* 😆

@Red- Perfect point!
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Posted: 8 years ago
ENGIN nailed it perfectly in the scene where he surrepticiously enters the house ,looks around to ensure that nobody is at homewithout a single dialogue he conveyed so many emotions.And i am glad he just apologised,no tears.
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Yes!!!There is something very sexy in Engin's walk.
Infact in Engin AT thread when @Roni mentioned page 2 ...i think, dummy was like So...
But more n more...i see him walk...I get a bout of weak knee syndrome.
Dont know how to decode it. Maybe its his.lean mean body, or that swaying hair or the eyes again.

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Posted: 8 years ago
@ramanika
Do you mean in Turkey or worldwide? In Turkey there are actors, which are more popular than Engin. But if you are talking about the worldwide success than I think it's mainly due to Engin's acting skills, the presence he has on screen, his charm and his good looks. Many people also love Engin's real life character. I guess that's the most important reason, why he is loved by so many people all over the world. Engin is someone who doesn't change after fame. He always stays the same humble person. And because of this many people start loving him :)

@Juhi

Nice to meet you too Juhi. Because I am a new member I am not allowed to post links. But just type in "kina yakilisi" in Google. You will see many pictures there. In Turkey it is not done like in India with all that brilliant patterns. It's (The Kina or Mehndi as you call it) just put in the middle of the hand of the bride. By the way the Kina festival is done before the wedding ceremony.

Than we put something around the hand of the bride. Because otherwise the bride would have diffuculties while dancing with all the kina on her hand. Often brides wear "gloves" around her hands after the Kina is applied. But nowadays there are many alternatives.

Durking Kina ceremony the bride wears a "bindalli". And also her face is covered during the moment the Kina is applied.

I have watched Beintehaa serial. It was very good. Qubool Hai will also be shown in Turkey soon. Again in channel "kanal 7".



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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: whiterose29


I actually love the dubbing artists and certain dubbed dialogues of Fatmagul. 😳 Like we've already discussed so many times before, each character here has been given perfect voice and the dialogues are also nicely translated... Of course certain FaRim scenes are exception where the dialogues have been mistranslated badly. 🤔

But I don't think the dubbing artists are to be held responsible for this because they simply say the dialogues given to them, I guess the translation work is done by some other set of people. 😊

The reason why we love to see the Yasarans scenes as much as we love to see FaRim scenes is just because of all the mess they cause and ultimately start arguing amongst themselves while throwing those hilarious dialogues to one another! 🤣

There was this scene where Erdogan sings "Yeh duniya yeh mehfil.." to Vural, though in original version he sang some kindergarten song to him... While some were pissed off that they should have included the original song, I actually loved it and Kaan's expressions were just bang on! ⭐️

So all in all, I'm absolutely enjoying the dubbed dialogues and voices and now I don't even remember the days when I used to get annoyed by Gullie's dubbing voice... The storyline is too intriguing to notice these little flaws! 😳


I agree with what you wrote Aashi 😊. Yeah they could've chosen a better voice for Beren but other than that every other dubbing artist is fine. I esp love Erdogan and Vurals voices. Erdo's one toh cracks me up every time 😆. Its fun.

About the translation errors, its not to be blamed on the artists but the interpreters 😉

@Dummy Guides- OMG Vidya could you get any more hilarous 🤣 Little Selim wants to play and Ants in Rissat's pants 😆😆 Musti's current savings and demat accounts 🤣🤣 Turning off thats History Channel... I want to re post your entire post 🤣🤣

@Shanaya- I totally agree, the moment Kerim goes all hubby mode on FG she goes back in her shell. Like I've always said kid gloves and baby steps for her. She has feelings but all the crap she's been through prevents her from being as vocal about her love as she was before that night.

@Ayda- Merhaba Ayda 😊 Nasilsin? Benim Adim Sehar 😳😳 . See I'm already learning Turkish from those translations you gave 😆😆

Wecome to our mad house hun!! 🤗
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Sunday Oh Sunday, why do you go so fast?? 😆😆 Gals why do Sundays go by so fast? Any idea 😔

I'll start with our in house Tharki Buddha and his loyal Witch-y Wifey. They are such an amazing couple, Rissat goes and puts his tongue down Yasmin's throat and Perihaan burns the pics and hides everything in a 1920's type hidden closet 😆😆. It was a truly Eww Yucky moment to see Rissat's smooching pictures. These two are perfect for each other.

Kadir is moving heavan and earth to find evidence for the case. He's a really good lawyer as well as Daddy for FG. I love how he got so worried for her over the phone 😊

I love Yasran Mahal scenes, they are soo fun "Usse Kaho Hum Mujrimo Ki Tarah Prosecutor Ke Samne Gawahi Dena Ja Rhe Hain, Kisi Ki Shadi Mein Nhi" 🤣 Sometimes I feel for this buddha, he has such dumb kids. He hates Erdo soo much 😆😆. And to top it all Erdogan getting ready as if he's going on a date 🤣🤣. He just doesn't care, does he?😆😆 Perihan giving death stares to Rissat and Selim 😆😆. This house needs a permanent psychiatrist 😆. Hilmiye selling her house. If she wasnt such a b**** I would've felt for her coz its sad to give u your home. Also the woman buying just wasn't interested in Hilmiye's sad sob story 😆😆

I love it when Musti gets scared shitless. Its an amazing feeling to watch this vile character get all terrified & sweat like a piggy 😆😆

Now MQ, her lessons on "Kerim ki Jawaani and his Garam Khoon" while giving her infamous boob shake 🤣🤣. It was truly disgusting but at same moment her expressions cracked me up. Also she has an earned PhD in Jawaani and Garam Khoon, thats how she got knocked up in the first place 🤢🤢

Ustad giving Kerim his job back due to Sir Rajnikant's pressure 😆. As long as Kerim works his brain wont be clogged with bad thoughts, you know how they say "Khali Dimag Shaitam Ka Ghar" So I'm okay with it 😉

Meltem Ender helping FG, I'll be open to overlooking her Musti Masti if she helps the case. Also Meltem looks gorgeous without make up. 😳

Now coming to my babies, FaRim. Kerim's guilt and regret for what he did was superbly portrayed through Engin's eyes. I think both Beren and Engin have beautifully expressive eyes 😳😳. When Kerim was sitting in his room and listening to FG and Meriyam upstairs, one could understand how bad he felt. He didn't wanna face FG after what he did hence he left the restaurant as well. The shame in his eyes was quite visible. He hurt the person who means the world to him and it truly broke him to see FG cry like that.

About FG, understand why she is reluctant to express herself to Kerim. She's been through a lot and it'll take a major amount of courage to come out and openly declare her love for him. A courage she doesn't have right now. Plus judging by what happened day before yesterday she still remains traumatized by her past and she's not ready to physically accept Kerim's love.

I esp loved the washroom scene, for a moment I thought he'll walk in on her naked 😆😆. Thank God he didn't 😆. The way he apologized, it was so genuine 👏👏. And then tore that little Pandora's Box of Troubles and put them where they belong, at sea. That scene was shot beautifully.

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