Jodha Akbar discussion corner! - Page 7

Originally posted by: ghalibmirza

Shyamala my dearest and donjas ,at work rt now as far as the thread is concerned i will be ok if shyamala decides to open a fresh thread on the main forum for the first 10 epis and even more if she likes, and if she wishes i too can copy paste here for anyone who wishes to stay here, so shyamala my loveliest i leave it up to you, you let me know ask the group and i will tag along. ..the rest later rushing to work!

Originally posted by: Donjas

Shyamala, your post is a treat. I know you will not make new posts for the episodes that you have already covered but some modification in them too will be interesting to see the change in perceptions from watching them then and now.

Now to the episodes, the positives-

1 The portrayal of Bairam Khan by Naved was spot on. He is one of those unsung heroes. His part ended before the serial got really popular. But in hindsight, we can see how brilliant an actor he is.

2 I always like you your psychological insights. That mirror interpretation was inspired.

3 The return of the fierce, angry at the world Jalal. How we have missed him.

4 Jodha looks very beautiful and graceful. There is freshness in the acting, which slogging for innumerable hours over the next two years will slightly erode.

Roohon ki baatein: The voices were softer than at any other time in such scenes shown later, and Jalal's was almost unrecognizably gentle. His Jodha, without the Begum, pleased me inordinately, as also that, in a charming contrast with his irritating habit later, he does not add Jodha Begum in every sentence he utters, as if he was in danger of forgetting her name!😉

Now where do you suppose this scene in Hamara maqbara ,as Jodha puts it, is situated? The opening line, by Jalal, is Tum yahan kya kar rahi ho, Jodha?, and she responds Aapko dekhne aayi hoon! Which would put it at Sikandra, Akbar's mausoleum, which seems to be in remarkably good shape, and not in Jodha's 1 km or so away.

There is a lovely, throwaway line from Jalal next, Tum to khudh ko aaine mein dekh rahi ho! It has deep, romantic implications, for she has come to see him, but now she looks in her mirror. Where she sees, not herself, but him, for he is part of her, indeed more. He is woven into the warp and woof of her being, and as Harry Potter when he looks into the Mirror of Erised, Jodha looks into her aaina, and she sees her heart's deepest desire, Jalal. It is an intensely moving line, but I wonder how many who watched it really grasped its true significance.

shyamala, how beautifully you have written rooh ki baatien..the beauty of that scene is, even though it is not akbar's tomb from inside it looks like salim chishti's dargah as akbar's kabar is made of white marbel and majestically stands in the middle of the huge tomb, the beauty is that it is history and it happened app 450 years ago..here is a shahenshah and a km away is his wife resting who was also the mother of his heir, and as per many they did share a special bond...now that feel and that nostalgia is enough to make one have goose bumps!..and then on top of that rajat's romantic soft voice and when he says tum to aaine main khud ko dekh rahi ho and how beautifully you explained the depth of that line which was enough to move me to tears...

aaj tak koi bhi ishq ki gehraaiyon ko samajh nahin paya hai..jab koi insaan apne aap ko parm aatma ko samarpan kar deta hai to wo mastaana ho jaata hai aur issi deewangi ko ishq kehte hain...and here when jodha looks in the mirror she is not looking at herself she is looking at her param aatma, her owner to whom she has submitted herself...

Originally posted by: adiana12

Shyamala just as many show a great scorn to money so also they show scorn to the warrior's sword and the blood it draws - I seriously don't understand this holier than thou attitude - Akbar was not the first to have the desire to expand - we have Ashoka, Raja Raja Chola, Kanishka.

As for this show - its one single saving grace is Rajat - at the very start EK has called the Mughals as paapis who need to be sudharoed by Begumsa - Someone shd tell EK and her avid viewers who swallowed every thing that she dished out as the gospel truth that there are no black and white in life however much many may want it - Life is a Rainbow with a multitude of colours of every hue - and Akbar had all the hues of all the colors in him like all other legends who came before and after him - that is why they are legends.

Originally posted by: elasingh

Yes shyamala...Jo and Jallu's tombs are very near...But Jallu's tomb is really maintained well and Jo's tomb not so well...It fills me with sadness to see Jo's tomb's condition...Which must have been really grand once upon a time...I live 20/25 minutes ( by road) far from Sikandara..