Yudh 7: The clearing and the clouding - Page 3

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Mandy dearest,

I was worried to hear about your father, and it is a relief to know that there was nothing wrong and that he is back home.My mother has been a sufferer from severe congestive heart failure for the past 3 years, so I know how it feels.

Do take a look at my response to Sandhya above, both about Yudh and about our JA forum no shows. And I hope you liked my take on the Joker's geet that I had included in this post, specially for you.

Love.

Shyamala

shyamala, thanks for the concern, he got two stents in his major heart arteries, they were 90% blocked and there is some blockage in the branches but i guess they are too narrow for a stent..they have given him some medications which will hopefully lessen the remaining blockage..he is a foody and now he is on strict diet, i hope he maintains it!

I am very sorry, my dear Shanti, but it was only today, Sunday morning, that I was able to rewatch it. I am too tied up for the rest of the day, but I will get it up, with the title Cat and Mouse, as early as I can make in on Monday. Then you can refresh your memory about it before moving on to Epsiode 9 at 10:30 pm. Okay?

But where is yours?

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: kmfan_2

Aunty ...I am still waiting for yours on Thursday's episode...😊...

Somebody has to make sure that he sticks to the diet, my dear Mandy , for it is not going to be easy for him. I hope there is someone tough enough to keep him on the straight and narrow.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: mandyg

shyamala, thanks for the concern, he got two stents in his major heart arteries, they were 90% blocked and there is some blockage in the branches but i guess they are too narrow for a stent..they have given him some medications which will hopefully lessen the remaining blockage..he is a foody and now he is on strict diet, i hope he maintains it!

Originally posted by: sashashyam

I am very sorry, my dear Shanti, but it was only today, Sunday morning, that I was able to rewatch it. I am too tied up for the rest of the day, but I will get it up, with the title Cat and Mouse, as early as I can make in on Monday. Then you can refresh your memory about it before moving on to Epsiode 9 at 10:30 pm. Okay?

But where is yours?

Shyamala Aunty

My dearest Sandhya,

If you say I promised to stay till the end of Jodha Akbar, I am sure you must have got it right. I can only say in my own defence that to write anything worthwhile, I have to feel like it, and nowadays - I watched all the five episodes of JA back to back on Saturday - even the scene of Jalal and Ruqaiya, and the really moving one of Ruqaiya by herself, do not make me want to write anything.

I have to do something for Mishti about those two scenes because she asked me for it, but as for the rest, they do not need me. I am sure they will get along perfectly well without my words of wisdom, seeing that, as you say, all they want is to do is to crack jokes among themselves.

If there is going to be a shift to Salim- Anarkali, does that mean that Rajat will do a remix of the Sethji to attempt a Prithviraj-style Akbar? I can only shudder at the thought. Poor boy, I hope he gets a decent break somewhere. It was pathetic, to see him buffeted about by that huge chap on Friday. The Adventures of Hatim, when I used to watch it for about 20 episodes, was way better.

Incidentally, that Ketan Karande, who now pays Khaibar, used to play the commando in a crack police team in a crime serial called Arjun that I used to follow. He was called Chhotu! He is big, but not huge, and so they are resorting to low angle shots to magnify his size. I suppose Jodha will awaken his insaniyat, the one his trainer was referring to, and rescue herself. Another round of hosannas for Jodha Begum, of course.

Lastly, my pet, you were right and I was wrong about the dil jeetne ki baat in Yudh. I just now managed to rewatch Episode 8, and it is Rishi, not Taruni. My apologies!

If I drop out, as I fully intend to do once Yudh is over, you can always get me thru e-mail. But what would you want me for then?

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

My dearest Mandy,

Don't fret, there is my good girl! I am not giving up on Yudh, regardless of whether 12 people read my posts or 412 or 712. I will do all the 20 episode analyses; what I wrote to Sandhya was in a fit of unaccustomed disappointment. I do feel let down by our young friends, and that is a fact, but I should know better than to let that spoil my mood!

While everything you have said is correct, and I had the earlier experience of the complete flop of Powder, which was almost flawless, the fact is that I expected better results for Yudh because of the Amitabh Bachchan factor. I was wrong. The marketing of course was very poor, but that is Sony all over. But the real problem is that the audience that should have flocked to Yudh simply stayed away.

Why, even intelligent people will not make the effort to watch Yudh. It is, admittedly, a demanding show, but Mandy, there are no children around between 10:30 and 11:30, dinner is over by 9:30 pm and the kitchen would have been cleared up by time Yudh starts. And people do not call other people after 10:30 pm unless it is an emergency. So none of those excuses will wash.

The thing is that the very people whom I would have expected to delight in Yudh do not want to make the intellectual effort to comprehend it. I have no problem with those like Adiana who watch 2 episodes and then say they do not like it. My khunnaas is against those who will simply not bestir themselves to watch it at all , and then voice fake complaints that Jodha Akbar is puerile. My admiration for Ekta's understanding of her audience goes up all the time. She knows what her audience REALLY wants, as distinct from what some segments of it profess to want.

Mandy, I am flattered beyond belief by what you have written in the end, but dear, I do not see our group together here. Do you? So how are we united? And where? I used to do analyses of episodes of Jodha Akbar that I had decided to skip, at nearly 5 pm, because one or the other young friend demanded it, and at times several of them. But see now! I asked them so many times and in so many ways, and hardly any of them is here with you and me and the very few who did show up. So all this so-called solidarity is imaginary, created by a confluence of interests, which is by its very nature temporary. So, I see no reason to exert myself any more re: Jodha Akbar, which is in any case barely watchable these days.

So my dearest Mandy, let us stay together here and enjoy the remaining 12 episodes of Yudh. Uske baad, Allah maalik!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: mandyg

shyamala dearest, you cannot leave us like that, we knew from the beginning that yudh will only attract limited people and we few are the lucky ones! did we ever expect a huge response, no! even the chugalkhor aunty says in her annoying shrill voice which is worst than jodha's bhashans that amitji tikk nahin paye tvpur ki bahuyon ke samne, and i felt like giving a tight slap on her face at least talk with some respect, we are talking about the great legend here and not some xyz actor! such is the mentality of the viewers of india, what to do?

shyamala the major problem is that for this show one needs to sit alone and watch with full concentration..just imagine when the whole family sits then there are kids crying phone ringing food cooking on stove and if they miss one dialogue or even one episode the connection is lost! and the sbs crap says one dialogue repeatedly for almost whole week, u watch them anytime the senseless story is still lingering on the same topic!

and as far as JA is concerned i am done with akbar's character and have started calling it BMC, for me he is dead and buried..i am still hovering around for the sake of my dear friends and RT..and i honestly want RT to quit because there is nothing left for him to do in the show..he is held back by ekta with a pay hike but i think he might leave most probably when the real leap starts...now by the end of this year the leap will focus on salim and anarkali..and if ekta brings a mind blowing couple with crackling chemistry and the female lead has no objections in doing passionate scenes then u wait and watch they will take the center stage and the actual jj will be sidelined and it will become more or less like mughal-e-azam! i think i will see how salim anarkali perform and then start rewatching it if its worth giving a try!

please shyamala, do not leave us we are like a lost flock of sheep without you! please do stay in touch and do not leave like this, its my request, in fact i do not want any of our group member to leave, please lets stay united!

Aunty,finally i'm here....i successfully watched all the episodes in these two days....honestly, i didn't understand a single thing in the serial when i watched first episode..i was like,what's going on....i gave myself sometime,and rewatched initial episodes with full concentration..when i start understanding,hundreds of doubts arised in my mind..and take a small break and read ur post and and various responses by forum members..i became confident enough to watch rest of 5,6,7 episodes,and read posts too....Now i'm fully into Yudh..from tomarrow, i'l be here on time..
Aunty ,my like button is not working..so i'm not able to like posts..sorry..

Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dearest Mandy,

Don't fret, there is my good girl! I am not giving up on Yudh, regardless of whether 12 people read my posts or 412 or 712. I will do all the 20 episode analyses; what I wrote to Sandhya was in a fit of unaccustomed disappointment. I do feel let down by our young friends, and that is a fact, but I should know better than to let that spoil my mood!

While everything you have said is correct, and I had the earlier experience of the complete flop of Powder, which was almost flawless, the fact is that I expected better results for Yudh because of the Amitabh Bachchan factor. I was wrong. The marketing of course was very poor, but that is Sony all over. But the real problem is that the audience that should have flocked to Yudh simply stayed away.

Why, even intelligent people will not make the effort to watch Yudh. It is, admittedly, a demanding show, but Mandy, there are no children around between 10:30 and 11:30, dinner is over by 9:30 pm and the kitchen would have been cleared up by time Yudh starts. And people do not call other people after 10:30 pm unless it is an emergency. So none of those excuses will wash.

The thing is that the very people whom I would have expected to delight in Yudh do not want to make the intellectual effort to comprehend it. I have no problem with those like Adiana who watch 2 episodes and then say they do not like it. My khunnaas is against those who will simply not bestir themselves to watch it at all , and then voice fake complaints that Jodha Akbar is puerile. My admiration for Ekta's understanding of her audience goes up all the time. She knows what her audience REALLY wants, as distinct from what some segments of it profess to want.

Mandy, I am flattered beyond belief by what you have written in the end, but dear, I do not see our group together here. Do you? So how are we united? And where? I used to do analyses of episodes of Jodha Akbar that I had decided to skip, at nearly 5 pm, because one or the other young friend demanded it, and at times several of them. But see now! I asked them so many times and in so many ways, and hardly any of them is here with you and me and the very few who did show up. So all this so-called solidarity is imaginary, created by a confluence of interests, which is by its very nature temporary. So, I see no reason to exert myself any more re: Jodha Akbar, which is in any case barely watchable these days.

So my dearest Mandy, let us stay together here and enjoy the remaining 12 episodes of Yudh. Uske baad, Allah maalik!

Shyamala

shyamala, i too will hang around until yudh is being shown, after that i too do not know where i will go, JA is not my cup of tea and nothing makes any sense in that show whatsoever! one bad track ends another worst one starts which beats the previous one in being crappy!

Great posts, and yeah Anand meant the dil jeetne wala line for Rishi, people skills are as important as management skills, of course Yudh probably had an inkling about Rishi, and therefore got him the right project? Yudh I think knows his children well. We will find out in a another couple of weeks I guess.

Thank you so much, my dear, and no, they have not shown any scenes of Rishi and Taruni as yet. I agree with you that the two of them will get on splendidly. Also that Yudh, instinctively, knows his children well. However, his asking Taruni in episode 8 to stay back with the mining enterprise and run that hospital was very odd. I have discussed this in my post on that episode, A cat and mouse game, that I have just put up.

Curiously enough, one of the Yudh Moments, in the telecast mentioned that the two -Aahana Kumra and the boy who plays Rishi - have been been together several times in other serials, and always as siblings!

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: notagain

Great posts, and yeah Anand meant the dil jeetne wala line for Rishi, people skills are as important as management skills, of course Yudh probably had an inkling about Rishi, and therefore got him the right project? Yudh I think knows his children well. We will find out in a another couple of weeks I guess.

Have they shown any scenes of Rishi and Taruni? I have a feeling they probably get along fine and will act as a sibling team when the time will demand.