Abir and Meenu's conversation - Page 4

Originally posted by: Mimzy

She saw Kunal for what he is on their GD, which she should have had a fair idea on the surgery matter itself. The Kunal who made the effort kept on confusing her. Even, with the whole naman thing she was not sure on how to proceed. But when Kunal revealed that Abir was the actual one who made those gestures, it finally sealed the deal for her.

Its not that his intentions are bad, but he has the ability to tweak situations or people so that they do what he wants them to do.

Mishti is as meddlesome as Abir, but she doesn't have that ability to turn situations in her favour. She will be seen explaining herself till the end of the show....par koi usse nahi samjhegi. She doesn't know how to play behind the background, probably that will be her downfall.😳

Originally posted by: Mimzy

She saw Kunal for what he is on their GD, which she should have had a fair idea on the surgery matter itself. The Kunal who made the effort kept on confusing her. Even, with the whole naman thing she was not sure on how to proceed. But when Kunal revealed that Abir was the actual one who made those gestures, it finally sealed the deal for her.

Its not that his intentions are bad, but he has the ability to tweak situations or people so that they do what he wants them to do.

Mishti is as meddlesome as Abir, but she doesn't have that ability to turn situations in her favour. She will be seen explaining herself till the end of the show....par koi usse nahi samjhegi. She doesn't know how to play behind the background, probably that will be her downfall.😳

She will always be in the forefront and Abir in the background.

this is exactly what I feel.. bang on analysis 👏

Also abir is like that person who has super powers( his persuasion skills, his leadership, his understanding, etc are all qualities which meenu also has)In the beginning he unknowingly unleashes his power which sometimes gives him the desired result and sometimes it backfires.
Slowly he will understand how and when to use this power. Only then he can be 1 step ahead of Meenu. Till now he is mostly playing catchup.

now when he finally comes into his own how will it affect his equation with mishti n kunal is to be seen. Coz, up till now whatever he did it was in his innocence and naivety. But, henceforth if he is gonna play meenu he will do things intentionally.

How will mishti take this? Will he share his plans with her? Will he use her?

What about kunal?

the show has suddenly become so much more interesting

Originally posted by: Mimzy

She saw Kunal for what he is on their GD, which she should have had a fair idea on the surgery matter itself. The Kunal who made the effort kept on confusing her. Even, with the whole naman thing she was not sure on how to proceed. But when Kunal revealed that Abir was the actual one who made those gestures, it finally sealed the deal for her.

Its not that his intentions are bad, but he has the ability to tweak situations or people so that they do what he wants them to do.

Mishti is as meddlesome as Abir, but she doesn't have that ability to turn situations in her favour. She will be seen explaining herself till the end of the show....par koi usse nahi samjhegi. She doesn't know how to play behind the background, probably that will be her downfall.😳

She will always be in the forefront and Abir in the background.

haan tweaking can be said but he himself doesnt involve except for when it comes to kunal else he stays out even from mishti matters... most of the meddling he did is with kunal else he just stays in his own bubbles until a situation arises where he needs to take charge...

but with mish she herself involves in things in everyone like kuhu who doesnt need her help... thats where she fails... she needs to know who needs her help n who dont... abir is little clear in that on who n when to help them...

the whole managing situation better has come to abir bcoz he is like meenu like you said tweaking... but mish havent learnt that yet... this is mainly bcoz of the understanding, reading of people n their emotions.... and mish have you realized most of the time mish doesnt even realize what she does is a mistake, what she does is with good intention but her risking things like roaming around with the divorce paper, going alone to rajgarh, nish mish attack, going into jungle, saying kunal truth... her impulsiveness lands her in problem...

Originally posted by: Appu1981

this is exactly what I feel.. bang on analysis 👏

Also abir is like that person who has super powers( his persuasion skills, his leadership, his understanding, etc are all qualities which meenu also has)In the beginning he unknowingly unleashes his power which sometimes gives him the desired result and sometimes it backfires.
Slowly he will understand how and when to use this power. Only then he can be 1 step ahead of Meenu. Till now he is mostly playing catchup.

now when he finally comes into his own how will it affect his equation with mishti n kunal is to be seen. Coz, up till now whatever he did it was in his innocence and naivety. But, henceforth if he is gonna play meenu he will do things intentionally.

How will mishti take this? Will he share his plans with her? Will he use her?

What about kunal?

the show has suddenly become so much more interesting

but this will effect mishbir and may be kunal will hold them...

Abir is neend mein bhi hoshiyar, diplomatic, peoples person and he knows how to manage things. Usko biwi mili hai mishti who is pure hearted, jo dil mein woh muh pe but impulsive and someone with a foot in the mouth syndrome. Poori zindagi woh raita phailayegi and yeh sametega 🤗🤗

Originally posted by: Appu1981

this is exactly what I feel.. bang on analysis 👏

Also abir is like that person who has super powers( his persuasion skills, his leadership, his understanding, etc are all qualities which meenu also has)In the beginning he unknowingly unleashes his power which sometimes gives him the desired result and sometimes it backfires.
Slowly he will understand how and when to use this power. Only then he can be 1 step ahead of Meenu. Till now he is mostly playing catchup.

now when he finally comes into his own how will it affect his equation with mishti n kunal is to be seen. Coz, up till now whatever he did it was in his innocence and naivety. But, henceforth if he is gonna play meenu he will do things intentionally.

How will mishti take this? Will he share his plans with her? Will he use her?

What about kunal?

the show has suddenly become so much more interesting

Yes, after today's confrontation between Meenu and Abir, this is where I feel it is heading. Now Abir has openly challenged her, so the war is ON!

The confrontation was crucial and I wish they had taken the time and shown it the next day without editing some parts of the conversation to give a clear idea to the viewers. It felt rushed and ambiguous.

I too am looking forward to how it pans out between Meenu and Abir.

As far as Abir being discussed as a Manipulator and made to be the one responsible for every major event in the show is stretching it a bit far - a flattened way to look at the story where we are giving others and circumstances a clean chit in the process!

However, I do understand what you and Mini are trying to convey and I agree to some of it
I see Abir's doings/actions as a subconscious counterbalance against Meenu. He is always mindful of Meenu's controlling ways while dealing with any family situation, so some of his actions that have subconsciously resulted to counterbalance Meenu's manipulation can come across as his own manipulation...

He does have some amazing persuasion skills!!

Btw, I am glad MishBir fans are not shying away from calling their favorites out when they see something negative unlike the cover ups and contrived justifications I see elsewhere

I too think Abir is now going to openly play Meenu's game, he will fail a few times, learn from his mistakes and get better. But yeah, Mishti is going to be the biggest collateral damage of this game... Sab Mishti ki wajah se was just a theory before now it is going to be proven, case by case.

Yes, the show has become very interesting! I hope they do good job with editing, otherwise we will be left scratching our heads every time Abir and Meenu have confrontations and I suspect there will be more and more of them 😆

Originally posted by: Appu1981

Abir is neend mein bhi hoshiyar, diplomatic, peoples person and he knows how to manage things. Usko biwi mili hai mishti who is pure hearted, jo dil mein woh muh pe but impulsive and someone with a foot in the mouth syndrome. Poori zindagi woh raita phailayegi and yeh sametega 🤗🤗

Ayyo, they need to live separately to live happily

Originally posted by: Appu1981

this is exactly what I feel.. bang on analysis 👏

Also abir is like that person who has super powers( his persuasion skills, his leadership, his understanding, etc are all qualities which meenu also has)In the beginning he unknowingly unleashes his power which sometimes gives him the desired result and sometimes it backfires.
Slowly he will understand how and when to use this power. Only then he can be 1 step ahead of Meenu. Till now he is mostly playing catchup.

now when he finally comes into his own how will it affect his equation with mishti n kunal is to be seen. Coz, up till now whatever he did it was in his innocence and naivety. But, henceforth if he is gonna play meenu he will do things intentionally.

How will mishti take this? Will he share his plans with her? Will he use her?

What about kunal?

the show has suddenly become so much more interesting

Exactly the show has become more interesting😆

Of course he is a people's person, who can understand what makes people click. What everyone doesn't understand is to become a people's person you have to have certain amount of manipulation skills.

Otherwise, you will be like Kunal and Mishti who will be lesser liked because they do not have those people skills.

@Bold - He myt be slowly realising it. The way he check mated BB might be the beginning of him coming to his power. He read his mother and Kunal really well and carefully calculated his moves, so that his mother will not be able to stop Kunal from revealing the truth. Kunal himself confessed he was not sure until the last moment whether he would do it or not. And Abir had a fair idea that Kunal would probably reveal it because he had already put it in his mind that it is the right thing.

Bold 2 - My question exactly😆Becoz both of them are naive and clueless when it comes to understanding people and their emotions. Both of them fiercely love Abir and would go to any extent for him. Abir has been a guiding figure in both of their lives, so it will be interesting to see how he will now guide them.

Originally posted by: LetThereBeLight

haan tweaking can be said but he himself doesnt involve except for when it comes to kunal else he stays out even from mishti matters... most of the meddling he did is with kunal else he just stays in his own bubbles until a situation arises where he needs to take charge...

but with mish she herself involves in things in everyone like kuhu who doesnt need her help... thats where she fails... she needs to know who needs her help n who dont... abir is little clear in that on who n when to help them...

the whole managing situation better has come to abir bcoz he is like meenu like you said tweaking... but mish havent learnt that yet... this is mainly bcoz of the understanding, reading of people n their emotions.... and mish have you realized most of the time mish doesnt even realize what she does is a mistake, what she does is with good intention but her risking things like roaming around with the divorce paper, going alone to rajgarh, nish mish attack, going into jungle, saying kunal truth... her impulsiveness lands her in problem...

Exactly Diyaa......😆

Abir concentrated on Kunal the most because his opponent was Benba. And in courtship too he was more concentrated on making the relationship wrk than concentrating on his feelings. More like he was trying to diffuse BB's moves. But what he didn't calculate in this game of chess between him and BB, that his pawns( just explaining from game pov not tht I consider them as pawns 😆) would undermine him and go solo. He was their inside person but none of them confided in him, which ruined his whole game. Be it Mishti going off on haldi, or finding baba's truth, Kunal running away from marriage, and all the incidents you have mentioned. He was rendered helpless in his game against BB by his own people.

Originally posted by: Appu1981

Abir is neend mein bhi hoshiyar, diplomatic, peoples person and he knows how to manage things. Usko biwi mili hai mishti who is pure hearted, jo dil mein woh muh pe but impulsive and someone with a foot in the mouth syndrome. Poori zindagi woh raita phailayegi and yeh sametega 🤗🤗

Exactly....👍🏼