MishBir n the Band aid theory - Page 3

Originally posted by: Npdeepa

I slightly disagree with this yaar...sorry diya...🤗

but i agree that abir takes decision through his heart and mishti takes decisions through her brain...

That is both of them fail miserably...they need to work together to get best decision.

I saw a role reversal where Mishti decided to make decisions through her heart (i.e) Abir band aid strategy which will give a temporary relief to the wound but will not heal and Abir kind of working through the facts i.e giving advices to kunal to do the right thing instead of spoon feeding his nanko).

Again they will fail, both of their approach in dealing the issues is incorrect , it might will never heal it but because she just decide to give away the company ownership at the heat of the moment when she saw kuhu upset face because quite some hours ago she was happy when BB discussed with the family about giving the ownership to her though she knew kunal didn't give away the ownership on his own at that time. It is after she spoke to BM she decided to walk along with abir in dealing with the family issues. Abir was happy because he know his bro is not at all happy about changing the ownership to mishti...Kuhu confessed it openly during holi dhahan and next in the courtyard when she was bad mouthing mishti...Abir gave a satisfaction/ proud smile to his wife because he thought kuhu will be happy now, so nanko happy, family happy and he is happy. Little did he know her primary love is for RV's surname, sports car and the fame she will get being a Redpair travels owner's wife.

moni... sorry yaar got late to reply... 🤗

its ok to have different pov... 🤗

ok i agree with one thing that both their approach is wrong... i never said abirs this theory is right... i just explained this is what abir does n also mentioned he can be wrong at times... neither mishti's impulsiveness of bringing out truth is right.... there is a time for everything...

they havent found a middle ground where both their theory work... abir needs to know bringing out truth is important n mishti should know to understand the situation on when to bring on the truth... they are just at learning phase... thats why they are having differences now...

and coming to mish returning the company... the thing is she returned it bcoz of kuhu also but not only bcoz of her... its mishti's character trait that she doesnt need such materialistic things as acceptance, its the true feeling that she appreciates... its her true words that its kunals hard work so it should be with him, his message is acceptance n she has wholeheartedly got that but the materialistic thing should be with the rightful owner... if this was abirs ngo she wouldnt think like that as its her haq, something which belongs to her husband...

coming to abirs reaction... he didnt get happy for kuhu but for kunal... ultimately its all about kunal for him not kuhu... today bp words perfectly described abir, he can never snatch away kunals rights, wont interfere in his business, thats why he understood n got happy when mish returned it he was proud of mishti words on how it was kunal rights n it should belong to him... yaar he has his own ngo, he is himself ameer rajvansh this property thing i was actually shocked when both mishbir were happy to receive thats not at all like them... both are independent... these are the same people who got angry with prenup, i was so happy mish returned it n abirs happy reaction....

sorry this is just my opinion based on how mishbir were from start..

Originally posted by: LetThereBeLight

moni... sorry yaar got late to reply... 🤗

its ok to have different pov... 🤗

ok i agree with one thing that both their approach is wrong... i never said abirs this theory is right... i just explained this is what abir does n also mentioned he can be wrong at times... neither mishti's impulsiveness of bringing out truth is right.... there is a time for everything...

they havent found a middle ground where both their theory work... abir needs to know bringing out truth is important n mishti should know to understand the situation on when to bring on the truth... they are just at learning phase... thats why they are having differences now...

and coming to mish returning the company... the thing is she returned it bcoz of kuhu also but not only bcoz of her... its mishti's character trait that she doesnt need such materialistic things as acceptance, its the true feeling that she appreciates... its her true words that its kunals hard work so it should be with him, his message is acceptance n she has wholeheartedly got that but the materialistic thing should be with the rightful owner... if this was abirs ngo she wouldnt think like that as its her haq, something which belongs to her husband...

coming to abirs reaction... he didnt get happy for kuhu but for kunal... ultimately its all about kunal for him not kuhu... today bp words perfectly described abir, he can never snatch away kunals rights, wont interfere in his business, thats why he understood n got happy when mish returned it he was proud of mishti words on how it was kunal rights n it should belong to him... yaar he has his own ngo, he is himself ameer rajvansh this property thing i was actually shocked when both mishbir were happy to receive thats not at all like them... both are independent... these are the same people who got angry with prenup, i was so happy mish returned it n abirs happy reaction....

sorry this is just my opinion based on how mishbir were from start..

Don’t be sorry yaara... 🤗

I too encourage difference of opinion which could be talked out and sorted...if we think alike then what’s the point of this forum discussions and all.

@ bold this is what I like to disagree. It is not about whether he gives the company back or not. She applied Abir band aid therapy but this will lead her to a big disaster. Diyu... if you get time read my post in the MF ‘My take on the recent episodes. I had a different perspective but it is similar to your thoughts.
I really need to get back to bed it is just 3am. Catch up later

Originally posted by: Npdeepa

Don’t be sorry yaara... 🤗

I too encourage difference of opinion which could be talked out and sorted...if we think alike then what’s the point of this forum discussions and all.

@ bold this is what I like to disagree. It is not about whether he gives the company back or not. She applied Abir band aid therapy but this will lead her to a big disaster. Diyu... if you get time read my post in the MF ‘My take on the recent episodes. I had a different perspective but it is similar to your thoughts.
I really need to get back to bed it is just 3am. Catch up later

ohh i love discussion moni... 🤗

Mmmm the thing is neither is abir theory wrong nor right for every situation... so for this situation it is right.. we cant say the same for other... without experience how will they learn... so applying it is not wrong but using the same for everything is not right... they need to differentiate between situations... rather than theory they should go by situation...

will surely read it dear... nowadays i get only few hours n busy in At n LU n see here too i come very late to reply.. will try to read when i get time dear 🤗

Originally posted by: LetThereBeLight

Hola peps 😃

its been long since i posted in MF... here something i loved in today episode.. and its gonna be a long rant.. bear with me 😆

Abir - "tab iss ghar mai jhagde hote haina mujhe bhi aise lagta hai jaise meri kisi body part pe cut lagaya.. uss waqt mujhe jo samajme aata jaise lagta hai vaisa kar deta hu.. sochna bhi nahi padta instinct hai... tumhe bhi apne aap samajme ajayega.. tum bhi sab kuch teek kardogi..."

Abir -"Ghar aisa hota hai jahan chot ek ko lage dard sab ko mehsoos hota hai.. humare ghar jaisa nahi yahan sab log akele hi apni pani takleef ki saath jeete rehthe hai" (a dialogue from initial episode after rishta exchange)

These both dialogue has a connection.. Abir gets hurt n feels the pain of each member of the family when there is a fight n he wants to give them immediate relief n he never cared even if in that process he will get hurt..

he just follows his instinct on what can reduce their pain.. he expressed his emotions n also answered her question on how he tries to keep family together..

example baba track end he was the one who bough baba to that house when he realized he is the one reason for the fight n problem in family his first thought was to take him away from the family... he even said while taking mehul out "i'm taking him away, apse dur"... n then he had his private confrontation... he followed his instinct there.. he didnt care how he felt about the sudden truth but his first thought was taking him away from family...his only mistake there was not informing family about his thoughts or what he is gonna do..

coming back to the topic

he didnt agree he is right nor did he say he wants her to follow him he just advised her to follow her instinct like he had done n she will do the right thing by herself...

when she asked what if things go out of hand like what if she wasnt able to manage the situation even after following her instincts...

abirs reply is something he promised her i'll be a step behind you so that i can catch you when you fall.. so here he said come to your partner n i'll always be there for you... abir believes in giving mish lead n let her handle things..(to know more about this read uru's shiv parvathi post)❤️

note there they are not talking about what happened but on what can they do in future when they are put in such a situation.. here they are only talking about managing a situation not finding a solution there is a difference between both...

here mish got two things his emotions when family fight happens, his advice about following her instinct... before she returned the papers to kunal she thought of only these two things which she understood from abir...

she knew kunal hasnt given her this on own but on meenu insistence.. kuhu is not happy with it... so she knew this will bring problem in family which will mean again a cut for abir(he will feel be hurt), and also she knew its not her rights as its kunals hardwork... she followed her instinct of doing right n also made sure family n inturn abir is not hurt.. both things went hand in hand in this situation.. she did the right thing n also didnt bring a jhagda in family by explaining why she is doing this n also showed her acceptance "message received"..

this is her first success of handling a family situation... this is the same mish i wanted who do the right thing, the girl who refused to work with bp as she wanted to be independent.. she returned something which is rightfully not hers... here she handled it more maturely by doing everything in open n right person n time..

they knew this is not gonna be the same in all situation.. thats why the second dialogue what if things go out of hand... that is related to the party kunal giving parul the right... here they did right but then situation has gone out of hand.. we are yet to see how they will handle all this...

finally rant over... hope i made some sense... and thank you to everyone who have completed reading this.. 😆🤗

First of all kaan pakad ke maafi for the late late response here .....

I am so so so happy with the way you described this scene ...ah sach mein dil ko sukoon milta hai yeh padh ke ...I so wish I could request the mods to stick this topic on the main forum and read it every day

Take a bow dear....its outstandingly amazing....like everything is awesome ( in a real way )

Okay bear with me it's a long rant from my side as well

First of all you have beautifully connected these two dialogues by abir This shows that abir was very much struggling since day 1 when it comes to dealing matters with his family, I remember at one point of time he was so frustrated that he even advised mishti that we will leave separately not once but on many occasions but eventually it didn't work out at that time, but I do understand his pain here , I had tears in my eyes when he said that dialogue about ki aisa lagta hai meri body pe kisi ne cut maar diya ....that's something my grand ma also says that a family is like a human body and if one member is unhappy , the entire family feels the pain, however it has to be a mutual feeling for everyone, here abir sees everyone's pain , recognises it too , but how many actually dare to see his pain that he has successfully managed to hide behind his smile his mom targets his wife , his bro mixed the pills , his wife didn't inform him at the right time , I sometimes wonder what If he hadn't heard the sis convo that day ? Uske kabhi pata chalta uske ghar mein log kya kar rahe uske peeche ? ....that's why I don't mind if he gets a little upset , he is a human being after all who is capable of feeling the pain and reacting accordingly ( mard ko bhi dard hota hai ) , it makes him more relatable in my eyes.... people who can't take his worst have no rights to be with him at his best , he has taken everyone's worst upon himself, and honestly right now mishbir are just having a difference of opinion, each of them are surrounded by their own perspectives ( I have explained that in painting analysis ) ... after some trail and errors, they will be on the same page , thay have to be if they wish to solve this situation together sometimes I come across as biased towards abir but honestly that's not the case, I see the situation from both the perspectives, since there are many who write on mishti and I already agree with them , I choose to write on abir's perspective because i believe sometimes he is misunderstood more than required it's not like he isn't wrong, he is at times but may be the extent of misunderstanding is more in that area ...

Beautiful explanation of his instinct ...that'swhat his real approach is , that's why he first suggested mishti also to live separately... but many times putting a band aid dosent solve the real issue , just like living separately won't solve real differences, yes future differences can be avoided but what about healing the wounds that have already been there .... ? That's where your point comes , that they both will work together in such a way that when one falls, the other one will handle ( shiv parvati reference )

Totally agreed with you , mishti took a right decision with his help and I am expecting that abir too will take a right decision in future with mishti's help ....even I loved mishti there Glomplse of real mishti there

I know they will come together soon Till then I will happily enjoy their tashan I will be honest, i enjoy this more than the romance

Ok rant over

And diyuuuuuuuu ....you have an excellent way with your words So keep writing yaar ...tumhari post padh ke dil khush ho jaata hai

Originally posted by: Onyourface

First of all kaan pakad ke maafi for the late late response here .....

I am so so so happy with the way you described this scene ...ah sach mein dil ko sukoon milta hai yeh padh ke ...I so wish I could request the mods to stick this topic on the main forum and read it every day

Take a bow dear....its outstandingly amazing....like everything is awesome ( in a real way )

Okay bear with me it's a long rant from my side as well

First of all you have beautifully connected these two dialogues by abir This shows that abir was very much struggling since day 1 when it comes to dealing matters with his family, I remember at one point of time he was so frustrated that he even advised mishti that we will leave separately not once but on many occasions but eventually it didn't work out at that time, but I do understand his pain here , I had tears in my eyes when he said that dialogue about ki aisa lagta hai meri body pe kisi ne cut maar diya ....that's something my grand ma also says that a family is like a human body and if one member is unhappy , the entire family feels the pain, however it has to be a mutual feeling for everyone, here abir sees everyone's pain , recognises it too , but how many actually dare to see his pain that he has successfully managed to hide behind his smile his mom targets his wife , his bro mixed the pills , his wife didn't inform him at the right time , I sometimes wonder what If he hadn't heard the sis convo that day ? Uske kabhi pata chalta uske ghar mein log kya kar rahe uske peeche ? ....that's why I don't mind if he gets a little upset , he is a human being after all who is capable of feeling the pain and reacting accordingly ( mard ko bhi dard hota hai ) , it makes him more relatable in my eyes.... people who can't take his worst have no rights to be with him at his best , he has taken everyone's worst upon himself, and honestly right now mishbir are just having a difference of opinion, each of them are surrounded by their own perspectives ( I have explained that in painting analysis ) ... after some trail and errors, they will be on the same page , thay have to be if they wish to solve this situation together sometimes I come across as biased towards abir but honestly that's not the case, I see the situation from both the perspectives, since there are many who write on mishti and I already agree with them , I choose to write on abir's perspective because i believe sometimes he is misunderstood more than required it's not like he isn't wrong, he is at times but may be the extent of misunderstanding is more in that area ...

Beautiful explanation of his instinct ...that'swhat his real approach is , that's why he first suggested mishti also to live separately... but many times putting a band aid dosent solve the real issue , just like living separately won't solve real differences, yes future differences can be avoided but what about healing the wounds that have already been there .... ? That's where your point comes , that they both will work together in such a way that when one falls, the other one will handle ( shiv parvati reference )

Totally agreed with you , mishti took a right decision with his help and I am expecting that abir too will take a right decision in future with mishti's help ....even I loved mishti there Glomplse of real mishti there

I know they will come together soon Till then I will happily enjoy their tashan I will be honest, i enjoy this more than the romance

Ok rant over

And diyuuuuuuuu ....you have an excellent way with your words So keep writing yaar ...tumhari post padh ke dil khush ho jaata hai

Ohh firstly sorry for so late reply uru... and thank you so much for such big compliments 🤗🤗🤗

ok lets continue with my rant too 😆😉

Hifi uru as i watched that scene more than his theory, advice i felt his pain the first dialogue caught me so much yaar.. and remembered this past dialogue which actually describes abirs emotions... the ghar he mentioned actually fits for him, he is the ghar who understands n feels the pain of every single person n try to reduce their pain in whatever way he can...

the living separately was actually a good option not only for mishti but also for himself, he needs some peace away from this house yaar, he loves his family n also mishti equally infact more so he cant see both suffering due to one or other reason... living separately is not a permanent solution but by living away they can avoid alot of problem n they can try solving issue being away from home too... and also this is one thing i think will give a change of heart to meenu atleast as a beginner or for kuhu problem this is needed... varsha said last time that this is good for both the couples...

yaar even i thought that if he didnt hear that convo he would still be in dark which has been happening from start people doing things behind his back thats why even i dont get angry on him mostly, the final brunt comes down to him or mishti and in both case he gets hurt n pain... mard ko sach mai dard nahi hota uru we should accept it... in all this his emotions get suppressed n this theory can be put in another way, as he feels hurt, his pain after seeing or getting to know whats happening the immediate thing he do it put a band aid called smile on his face n go on with solving things like remember the first episode itself he remembered baba but next second put up a smile n started dancing, the kuku shaadi the shayari his dhol one, he was hurt n worried about mish but went ahead to prepare for his brothers shaadi suppressing his pain, 2 months hiding his pain behind those glasses, hiding his pain of baba all along his life just bcoz his mother said he should not talk about baba as nanko will get hurt he only talked about baba to naanu n meenu else he keeps kunal away from it, the days meenu hurt him that we will discuss later there is lot to say about them...

@bold - word uru... everything you said i agree totally... mishbir are like that we might argue, blame do whatever but they have understanding of each other beyond our own understanding and will come on same page soon... and we do love mishti also like abir but as everyone write about mishti n her emotions n discuss on the situation but mostly we both write on abirs pain not about whether he is right or wrong we both try to understand his emotions n pain which is more relatable to us i think as that is one thing which even the writers dont focus on...

actually you are right uru tashan gives alot more insight n fun than romance... 😆 this gives each other a dig to the others inner feelings, thoughts... this will make them understand the other well n also bring out their deep buried feelings...

actually for kuhu matter i have a thought dont know but this seems a little logical.. both mishti n abir are right but they are wrong at some places...

See kunal is ghar ka beta n his wrong doing are to be exposed before them as its their responsibility to correct him, reprimand him, take responsibility for their action.... mishku hid kunal spiking truth from mah family n only tried to convey that to abir n he reprimanded kunal infront of them... mah family never knew that and all didnt inform them bcoz he is their son in law, it will be demeaning to kunal not only this but everything no one said about kunals any wrong doing to mah family... even the divorce truth n shaadi truth kuhu herself said as its her life matter.... responsibility of kunal n his action are of rjv...

Now coming to kuhu her being a girl too.... its mah family responsibility to correct her n reprimand her for whatever she does how they are as parents is different thing... but kuhu is their responsibility, her actions too... she is daughter in law of rjv so exposing her will only create problem there like how exposing kunal to mah will create problem... if she is exposed to rjv then her respect as daughter in law of this house will be gone, she will not change but will rebel more, meenu will get a chance to insult n humiliate both mishku n also maheshwaris she will question their parenting... kunal can also rebel...

even mishbir experienced this during nishant drink spiking, he was not ready to listen on what happened, she couldnt inform at right time n everything went out of hand.... they went through this situation so they should inform kunal in calm way or make kuhu talk to kunal about this... as of now that is the only safest way n right too...

varsha n kunal mainly varsha is the right person whose reaction can change kuhu...

Here mish is right in saying kuhu should be exposed but the thing is she should not be exposed infront of family but this should be known to mah family n kunal.... as a husband he needs to know which even abir suggested but he shouldnt have promised to kuhu on behalf of mish rather explained to mish why this should be only between mishku n abinal n should not interfere if mish wants to expose kuhu to mah family... everything has a time n person who should knw this n shouldnt... both mishbir are half right in what they think n want...

PS: about abirs abundance issue i'm starting to watch some important episodes regarding this we both can discuss once you are free n start writing n discussing here itself what say..😃