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Posted: 3 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Nandini_goyal

This person has overlooked the basic argument that people who have problem with the story have and that is that, before spreading happiness and getting family together, has she even tried to understand from where these people come from? She doesn’t know their issues, when it’s told to her that they don’t celebrate an event, can’t she first try and find out why, instead of just throwing a surprise party ?


Her attempt at doing things without knowing the cause is same as going to the doctor and the doctor prescribes you a medicine without asking you about the symptoms and making any diagnosis.

Also, she had raised the point that Akshara inadvert actions are same as Abhi asking her to sing for an injured mother. She is so wrong here, Abhi had asked her to sing in her capacity as a music therapist and not otherwise.

Well said..

Also, the efforts Abhimaniyu made to get Goenkas love was in limit and he did not hurt anyone in the process ..He had some idea of from Akshara is coming from without parents, how Aarohi is...How bade papa is...

Even during Kairav-Anisha track, Abhi behaved maturely because Kairav wanted it secret...He complied..

Bade papa's heart attack was also partly due to Aarohi's jealousy...Bade papa send him police station still he was polite with them...ready to take punishment...


He has behaved in limits...


No like jumping Akshara...without knowing the dimensions...

He was even very careful not to ask Ak about why Ar blaming her for Sirat's death..To not to hurt her. He asked Kairav..

Posted: 3 years ago
#12

Hi,

I'm not tagged or asked for my opinion still sharing my opinion on that tweet thread, there's no comparison between what abhi has done in getting approval from MG and the way akshara has tried to celebrate a non-existent relationship.

Agree CVs are using this to set context for the skeletons to tumble out of the Birla's secret closet, but they have let their FL trip over really bad while doing that.

My rebuttal for what has been said is abhi never forced himself upon the Goenkas instead he only tried to reason with MG. He tried to prove that he's a worthy son-in-law and their daughter can be happy with him.

But here akshara just because she has no parents wanted to treat Abhimanyu's parents her own which is good, despite having an inkling of the uncomfortable dymanimcs between manjiri & HB, she planned a huge function ignoring her husband's warnings.

Had she really cared for his family, she should have completely listened, probed and understood the Birla family dynamics through abhi and then carefully she should have planned something.

Also she did admit to HB the party plan is all her doing but she didn't properly apologised to the people who matter the most, whereas abhi when akshara declined his love proposal in front of his family and because of which he was mocked by his father and others still was persistent with his efforts and was there for akshara whenever she was in need of help.

Love is standing by the person not expecting anything in return and giving the assurance that the person can be counted, which abhi did really well, akshara without proper background information, her hasty conclusions caused only pain to the beloved and deserted them to grieve on their own for a mess she has caused. Owning upto mistake and making up for it are 2 different aspects one she has partly accomplished but the other one she left altogether.

I'm comparing how flawed the FL character has been written compared to the ML.

Every little transgression with the ML has been redeemed properly, whereas the FL character has been etched with too many flaws and loopholes which needs redressal.


Originally posted by: Baarish_Sim

I was on Twitter when this came up in my recommendation, and it's such a beautifully penned-down thread supporting Abhira. It's worth reading even if you disagree with the points because they are so well-written and supported. Kudos to the writer and I hope they don't mind me sharing this because I am doing this with the intention that their ideas get maximum traction.

https://twitter.com/Ragini2011/status/1528176454160519168?s=20&t=WMcEYusAAj-jgYojAYEATQ

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rsrockz

Hi,

I'm not tagged or asked for my opinion still sharing my opinion on that tweet thread, there's no comparison between what abhi has done in getting approval from MG and the way akshara has tried to celebrate a non-existent relationship.

Agree CVs are using this to set context for the skeletons to tumble out of the Birla's secret closet, but they have let their FL trip over really bad while doing that.

My rebuttal for what has been said is abhi never forced himself upon the Goenkas instead he only tried to reason with MG. He tried to prove that he's a worthy son-in-law and their daughter can be happy with him.

But here akshara just because she has no parents wanted to treat Abhimanyu's parents her own which is good, despite having an inkling of the uncomfortable dymanimcs between manjiri & HB, she planned a huge function ignoring her husband's warnings.

Had she really cared for his family, she should have completely listened, probed and understood the Birla family dynamics through abhi and then carefully she should have planned something.

Also she did admit to HB the party plan is all her doing but she didn't properly apologised to the people who matter the most, whereas abhi when akshara declined his love proposal in front of his family and because of which he was mocked by his father and others still was persistent with his efforts and was there for akshara whenever she was in need of help.

Love is standing by the person not expecting anything in return and giving the assurance that the person can be counted, which abhi did really well, akshara without proper background information, her hasty conclusions caused only pain to the beloved and deserted them to grieve on their own for a mess she has caused. Owning upto mistake and making up for it are 2 different aspects one she has partly accomplished but the other one she left altogether.

I'm comparing how flawed the FL character has been written compared to the ML.

Every little transgression with the ML has been redeemed properly, whereas the FL character has been etched with too many flaws and loopholes which needs redressal.


The tags are just something I'm learning to use but I hope they didn't dissuade you from sharing your opinion. regardless of who I tag, my posts are open to everyone and I try my absolute best to respect and understand where all comments are coming from. I hope I can make you feel welcome here on after.

For starters, I love the profile pic - have you started watching Albela? Shaheer is doing so good in it!!!

Your post presents ideas I frequently ponder, especially when I get requests on Wattpad to write about these characters, so I understand where you're coming from. I've said this a while back, but I think it still holds true today - Akshu, being the legacy character of the series, is taken for granted in terms of, we know the audience has a soft spot for her because she is Naira's chotu sherni and Akshara's granddaughter. Whereas Abhi is someone they have to introduce and layer for the audience to build solidarity with him so they've paid more attention to him and his character graph. That might explain why many feel Akshu's character < Abhi's character, in terms of consistency at least.

Her dialogue - "first time celebrating parents' anniversary so I got a little excited" - made me rethink the entire situation from her perspective and understand her more, why she rushed into the party headfirst. But from my understanding, she did celebrate Kartik and Sirat's anniversary as children, when she didn't know about Naira. And those celebrations, much to Manish's dismay lol, were grand because Kartik and Sirat's relationship was kind to each other and filled with love (think of Kairat as Rebecca and Miguel, and Kaira as Rebecca and Jack-Jack was her epic love story, whose arms she ended up in heaven, but she still loved Miguel, just differently and not as much). So I assume her dialogue was reminiscing about her inability to celebrate Kaira's anniversary with them and that made me sad. But the Naira (Maa/Mumma)-Sirat Mumma thing is getting confusing. Initially, she loved them both equally but now we're seeing it lopsided - some days it's team Naira with no mention of Sirat, other days it's team Sirat and Naira's up in the wind.

Posted: 3 years ago
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I'm pretty chilled about not being tagged and all that, It's just because I want to make sure I'm not intruding into a discussion and making others find me as a gatecrasher😆, thank you🙏🏽 the DP is from one of the best scenes of ITV I'd say😍, I neither hero worship actors nor consider them celebrities, but I love DD as much as AB for their good qualities not because they are MLs.

Yes WTHA is good ATM and I'm enjoying the post wedding track, there's a talk of it going off-air but I'm enjoying it for now.

Coming back to the characterisation I feel HC owing to his popularity might have wielded his influence and ensured his character graph isn't going down in YRKKH and PR might be lacking that leverage, because when compared to OG Akshara this AG character is such a downward spiral.

I don't bother myself about people's looks because we all are mere mortals, but I can't appreciate if character is not good, to me people are important and adherence to values is even more important. Just because somebody belongs to someone or somebody has something amazing, I can't appreciate their shortcomings as well.

For this reason, I may not have many friends, but I only have loyal friends who appreciate me for what I'm. I can't make myself unhappy with a facade of false praise for a mistake done by someone I like. I have the courage to call a spade a spade. Hence, I get called out by akshara supporters or even will be ignored by few but sach chubtha hai zaroor.

I can't support useless brainless FLs characters like AG with no values and nearly zero brain cells. Because I feel women are the strongest and have the power to nurture, care, provide, teach and influence lives.

I have read these amazing lines somewhere, they resonate with my inner beliefs very well, "You give grains to a woman she can give you food, you give her love she can give you life and even if you don't have anything treat her with respect she will be there to make you feel you have everything."


Originally posted by: Baarish_Sim

The tags are just something I'm learning to use but I hope they didn't dissuade you from sharing your opinion. regardless of who I tag, my posts are open to everyone and I try my absolute best to respect and understand where all comments are coming from. I hope I can make you feel welcome here on after.

For starters, I love the profile pic - have you started watching Albela? Shaheer is doing so good in it!!!

Your post presents ideas I frequently ponder, especially when I get requests on Wattpad to write about these characters, so I understand where you're coming from. I've said this a while back, but I think it still holds true today - Akshu, being the legacy character of the series, is taken for granted in terms of, we know the audience has a soft spot for her because she is Naira's chotu sherni and Akshara's granddaughter. Whereas Abhi is someone they have to introduce and layer for the audience to build solidarity with him so they've paid more attention to him and his character graph. That might explain why many feel Akshu's character < Abhi's character, in terms of consistency at least.

Her dialogue - "first time celebrating parents' anniversary so I got a little excited" - made me rethink the entire situation from her perspective and understand her more, why she rushed into the party headfirst. But from my understanding, she did celebrate Kartik and Sirat's anniversary as children, when she didn't know about Naira. And those celebrations, much to Manish's dismay lol, were grand because Kartik and Sirat's relationship was kind to each other and filled with love (think of Kairat as Rebecca and Miguel, and Kaira as Rebecca and Jack-Jack was her epic love story, whose arms she ended up in heaven, but she still loved Miguel, just differently and not as much). So I assume her dialogue was reminiscing about her inability to celebrate Kaira's anniversary with them and that made me sad. But the Naira (Maa/Mumma)-Sirat Mumma thing is getting confusing. Initially, she loved them both equally but now we're seeing it lopsided - some days it's team Naira with no mention of Sirat, other days it's team Sirat and Naira's up in the wind.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rsrockz

I'm pretty chilled about not being tagged and all that, It's just because I want to make sure I'm not intruding into a discussion and making others find me as a gatecrasher😆, I don't believe in gate-crashing on my posts - all are welcome. With that being said, if people get personal and disrespectful, I will post a request on the thread highlighting the behaviour I don't appreciate and asking for forgiveness on behalf of all participants to all participants. So far, everyone's been great and it hasn't come to a point where I've had to take drastic measures so thank you, everyone :) thank you🙏🏽 the DP is from one of the best scenes of ITV I'd say😍, I neither hero worship actors nor consider them celebrities, but I love DD as much as AB for their good qualities not because they are MLs.

Yes WTHA is good ATM and I'm enjoying the post wedding track, there's a talk of it going off-air but I'm enjoying it for now. I hope not, the show has a lot of potential and I love the chemistry the actors share whether it be the sisters, brothers, Sayuri-her dad, Sayuri-Kanha, or Nakuul-Rashmi.

Coming back to the characterisation I feel HC owing to his popularity might have wielded his influence and ensured his character graph isn't going down in YRKKH and PR might be lacking that leverage, because when compared to OG Akshara this AG character is such a downward spiral.

I don't bother myself about people's looks because we all are mere mortals, I hate how people are so quick to judge by appearance and compare actors by the same. I understand having preferences between current and past cast but to shame someone's body is intolerable for me. I've seen so many people say stuff about Mohsin's body, comparing it to Harshad's, or skinny-shaming Pranali and it disgusts me. All bodies are beautiful! but I can't appreciate if character is not good, to me people are important and adherence to values is even more important. Just because somebody belongs to someone or somebody has something amazing, I can't appreciate their shortcomings as well.

For this reason, I may not have many friends, but I only have loyal friends who appreciate me for what I'm. I can't make myself unhappy with a facade of false praise for a mistake done by someone I like. I'm the same way - societal pleasantries, although necessary, are hard for me to endure let alone participate in. I can't fake praise, I will rather be mum or honestly, just leave the room. Few but loyal friends are all you need, in my opinion. I have the courage to call a spade a spade. Hence, I get called out by akshara supporters or even will be ignored by few but sach chubtha hai zaroor.

I can't support useless brainless FLs characters like AG with no values and nearly zero brain cells. Because I feel women are the strongest and have the power to nurture, care, provide, teach and influence lives.

I have read these amazing lines somewhere, they resonate with my inner beliefs very well, "You give grains to a woman she can give you food, you give her love she can give you life and even if you don't have anything treat her with respect she will be there to make you feel you have everything."


I'm probably just uninformed but what's DP and DD, I've heard the abbreviation on the forums before and I've always been confused lol

Posted: 3 years ago
#16

Originally posted by: Baarish_Sim

I'm probably just uninformed but what's DP and DD, I've heard the abbreviation on the forums before and I've always been confused lol

DP-DISPLAY PICTURE

DD-DEV DIXIT

About WTHA I really am hoping for the serial to run, yes agree all the characters and the dymanimcs have been superb so far.

KANHA & SAYYURI track has just begun so fingers crossed 🤞.

Coming back to few of your bold points, you can never find me making personal attacks or making derogatory comments on individuals.

Body shaming I can never identify people beyond what they are hence their looks are immaterial and no scope for body shaming.

We have many things in common, however you may find me overloaded with sarcasm😆

I CANT HELP MYSELF 🤣

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rsrockz

DP-DISPLAY PICTURE

DD-DEV DIXIT

About WTHA I really am hoping for the serial to run, yes agree all the characters and the dymanimcs have been superb so far.

KANHA & SAYYURI track has just begun so fingers crossed 🤞. YASS and they're blowing it out of the water with these performances - so much finesse I've became a Hina fan (always been a Shaheer fan).

Coming back to few of your bold points, you can never find me making personal attacks or making derogatory comments on individuals.

Body shaming I can never identify people beyond what they are hence their looks are immaterial and no scope for body shaming.

We have many things in common, however you may find me overloaded with sarcasm😆

Dude I live for sarcasm it adds so much colour and humour to life. We are going to get along so well smiley37

I CANT HELP MYSELF 🤣

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Hey, Baarish Sim!

How's you?

I have no idea why I logged in but anyway I did. I saw your post about the thread and the replies. I just felt like I really want to put out what I think about it. I am not gonna elaborate because elaborating on it is gonna make it start a whole new war of words and I have zero interest in it.

Just wanted to say I do not agree with that thread at all. I find every single argument in it as freaking ridiculous. Sure, instead of taking accountability and accepting our mistakes, let's all just choke up our actions on trauma. Abhimanyu and Akshara's feelings are hurt, for sure, because life happened to them just like so many other people. They are still entitled and uber privileged and I don't see freaking trauma anywhere. The only person I right now see dealing with trauma is Manjari who is stuck in a toxic relationship and has to the bear brunt of her husband's toxic behavior for years to come.


PS: AbhiRa fans, please do not bother to reply. I won't be engaging. Please, ignore me.

PPS: How's life basrish Sim, Harshadfan21, india_tv and Amru4krish? I hope you guys are having an amazing time. Take care! ❤❤❤

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ekahriz

Hey, Baarish Sim!

How's you?

I have no idea why I logged in but anyway I did. I saw your post about the thread and the replies. I just felt like I really want to put out what I think about it. I am not gonna elaborate because elaborating on it is gonna make it start a whole new war of words and I have zero interest in it.

Just wanted to say I do not agree with that thread at all. I find every single argument in it as freaking ridiculous. Sure, instead of taking accountability and accepting our mistakes, let's all just choke up our actions on trauma. Abhimanyu and Akshara's feelings are hurt, for sure, because life happened to them just like so many other people. They are still entitled and uber privileged and I don't see freaking trauma anywhere. The only person I right now see dealing with trauma is Manjari who is stuck in a toxic relationship and has to the bear brunt of her husband's toxic behavior for years to come.


PS: AbhiRa fans, please do not bother to reply. I won't be engaging. Please, ignore me.

PPS: How's life basrish Sim, Harshadfan21, india_tv and Amru4krish? I hope you guys are having an amazing time. Take care! ❤❤❤

Hi! I love hearing from you and your takes, so thank you for giving us your time today. Also thank you for your warm wishes towards me, Harshadfan21, india_tv and Amru4krish ❤❤

I hope you're doing so well and I can't imagine that you aren't since you're such a fierce individual. I love that you take time away from negativity and don't let other people bring you down. It's something that I'm learning to do myself so it's great to see such a strong example in you.

I don't know if you saw the 24th May episode but I wanted to hear your thoughts on Abhi's smirk in the precap. At first glance, he's obviously proud of his wife for taking a stand for herself but I can help but wonder if a part of him was happy that she put Harsh down - like it wasn't just her success he thrived on but Harsh's downfall. There is a war between father and son (Abhi wants Manjari's love for himself, Harsh wants Abhi's love for himself, etc.), and it looked like Abhi finally got a move in his favour, rather than the party where he looked like he lost the battle. His smile reminded me of Mahima's when one of her pawns worked out. I don't blame Abhi if he is happy to see Harsh lose, I'm just interested if I'm imagining things.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Baarish_Sim

Hi! I love hearing from you and your takes, so thank you for giving us your time today. Also thank you for your warm wishes towards me, Harshadfan21, india_tv and Amru4krish ❤❤

I hope you're doing so well and I can't imagine that you aren't since you're such a fierce individual. I love that you take time away from negativity and don't let other people bring you down. It's something that I'm learning to do myself so it's great to see such a strong example in you.

I don't know if you saw the 24th May episode but I wanted to hear your thoughts on Abhi's smirk in the precap. At first glance, he's obviously proud of his wife for taking a stand for herself but I can help but wonder if a part of him was happy that she put Harsh down - like it wasn't just her success he thrived on but Harsh's downfall. There is a war between father and son (Abhi wants Manjari's love for himself, Harsh wants Abhi's love for himself, etc.), and it looked like Abhi finally got a move in his favour, rather than the party where he looked like he lost the battle. His smile reminded me of Mahima's when one of her pawns worked out. I don't blame Abhi if he is happy to see Harsh lose, I'm just interested if I'm imagining things.


Hey,

I don't really watch the show anymore. I just read written updates once in a while and see the precaps. Doing it only because of a habit. I am waiting for the day I stop doing that as well, because, come on, let's just accept that the show is shit. 😅

I just checked out the precap because you asked. I am sorry, I was bewildered by Akshara's response than Abhimanyu's smirk. Harsh made a valid point. Of course, according to me Akshara wasn't deserving of the music department Abhimanyu "gifted" her. Which goes on to prove with the reply she gave to Harsh. Experience nahi chahiye, passion chahiye. Lol. What does that even mean? Just because it's a charitable hospital, passion is enough for a technical post like musical therapy? And I wonder where does charitable hospitals get funding for music therapy when Birla hospital cannot sustain it.

I think Akshara's response is the dumbest thing I have heard to a very sensible thing Harsh said. And I have no idea why Abhimanyu should feel any happy about it. But considering the IQ level of the show, I have to agree with you, he is just happy because he believes Akshara shut Harsh up.

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