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Aisha

@Samaina_16

Dazzler

+ 3

Posted: 7 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: Rucha21
Aaisha...
🤗for this post...

I have been saying the exact same thing since yesterday..

The Sameer Maheshwari who matured so much in Ahmadabad is now acting all opposite in Delhi..

At one time he is advising naina to be topper again and at the same time he is roaming around in delhi with Mawali Gang..

I wonder is this the same Sameer Maheshwari who got agitated seeing the random boys looking at the photo of Random girl in Photo Studio..

Caution : Further post is based on the Spoilers as well as actual episode on air till date..If you have not already read/heard the spoiler do not read the further comment..

Aaisha, sameer did smoke as per the pic posted by PH itself, he did play cards..

He conveniently has forgotten nana jis teachings..😕😕

I agree he has no one in Delhi except Vishakha (As per yesterday's episode), but he has naina's letters and phone calls..

Isn't naina's letter, phone conversation sufficient to keep him grounded..😕😕

Vishakha is also at fault regarding this..she did not keep him engaged..why he is not going to school..

School should have kept him busy at least but no Rohan, Deepika all go to School only Sameer doesn't and no explanation for the same...😆😆

If someone can give the answer to my question I will be highly obliged..

why sameer turned 180 degrees and acting exact opposite to the THE SAMEER MAHESHWARI in Ahmadabad..

Or Is it Just for the TRP aunties, to add the masala..

was not KeDi drama enough for the TRP aunties..

Mere sawalon ka jawab do..do na..😆😆

Rucha🤗 tm sbka contribution hai🤗

Rucha tmne sawalon ka jawab maang hi liya.

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I think sameer has started going to school. He was reading a book yesterday, so let's ASSUME he does go to school😆 anyway we have been assuming a lot of things lately, ye aurr sahi😆

Vahi na same doubt, naina ke letter, nanaji Ki teachings, mundit Ki dosti kaafi nahi hai?😕 I really want Cvs to remember what they have been showing us till sameer came to Delhi.

🥱TRP mata Ki jai ho😆

And yes spoilers did show him smoking. They would have cut it out sensing audience's reaction maybe😕 Anyway spoilers me to dubara ladai jhgda hai dekhte hain aage kya hota hai

Edited by AaishaM - 7 years ago

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Aisha

@Samaina_16

Dazzler

+ 3

Posted: 7 years ago

#12

Originally posted by: Samaina_1990
Agree word by word!
But he did see his Mawali friends teasing girls, that too twice. I know he didn't tease those girls, I know he stopped his friends, I even understand that sometimes you don't do something and later regret it (as Sameer's VO pointed out). But he could have stopped hanging out with them after these two incidents? Couldn't he? The same guy who got angry on seeing some random guys pass lewd comments on seeing some stranger girls' photographs is now roaming with boys who take pleasure in teasing girls. Is there any explanation for this behaviour? Eve teasing is not a small thing, and hanging out with people who take pride in eve teasing is not acceptable to me. ( If we can forgive Sameer then we shouldn't get angry on Naina on being a silent spectator of her brother's unlawful acts)
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Exactly!! I mean Sameer got so angry at Naina (for no fault of hers) that some guy must have looked at her inappropriately...n yet these gundas who passed nasty comments n touched young girls- Sameer was all okay to hang out with them- did you see his face contort in anger in the barber's shop at those men! And here when the rival gang says- agar tere ghar ki kisi ladki ko koi aise chedta to kya tu chup rehta..n he lashes out at him...what if these guys tease Naina next? Is this what will bring him out of this nasty gang? If so, what's the point of showing such a growth in Sameer's character. Had it been some other teenager like Mundit or even Arjun- I could've totally related with it. But sorry to say, Sameer doesn't fit that band now.

Thanks for understanding di😳 This is what I wanted to convey.

Haina kaisa ho gaya tha vo jab vo ldke photos le kr ja rhe the. Aur usi baat pe naina pe gussa bhi kiya. Theek hai gussa justified tha if we think from a boy's perspective. To fir ab voo kse in ldko ke sath ghum raha hai jo ldkiyo ko aise treat krte hain😕 Everything seems so out of place now. Earlier there used to be continuation, abhi to aise lagta hai kuch b scenes utha ke kahin bi daal de rhe hain😕

And yes, I so agree, sameer doesn't fit that band now. He does not need a jhatka like this to get him out of this mess. A person who has never disrespected women doesn't need his own gf to face this to wake him up. I really don't want makers to go this way😲

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Aisha

@Samaina_16

Dazzler

+ 3

Posted: 7 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: ruchi3179
The whole Mawali Gang act is forced one.Even my 8 year old who watches the show with me telling me that he shd not go with the boys.& that teasing .How can he be friends with the boys who teases girls when he himself has always been respectful towards girls & women in very adverse situation too say like when Kamya was ready to do everything for him.So it is forced track at this stage when they have already shown him to be way too mature earlier.

Exactly my sentiments. The track seems really forced at this point.

@Bold: Woah, so cool. If a kid can understand this why not Sameer? Ab uske baad aur kya hi bolun😕

I dont know what do the makers actually plan to show after making us witness the entire sameer maturing phase in Ahmedabad.

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Aisha

@Samaina_16

Dazzler

+ 3

Posted: 7 years ago

#14

Originally posted by: Mayashika
This mawali track is a little forced to me too..
I mean, Sameer's face shows that he doesn't like the eve-teasing that is happening but still he hangs out, why?
Let us allow the track to complete and see if some good comes out of this track...
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😉Bas isi answer ke liye we all are waiting for.

Yes, sure. Let the track finish first.😳 I really hope some good comes out of it.

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Dhruvi

@Hearttalks_90s

Voyager

+ 4

Posted: 7 years ago

#15

brilliant post n answers which will i guess remain unanswered...

@Rucha - CVs se milke puchte hain mere sawaaalooon ka jawab do na 😡

wen its being said he is being carried away due to his loneliness, how come he remembers to tell Naina to concentrate on study. he sneaked into the room and at the same moment his mother came in, caressed him and tucked him... he was happy seeing that and again immediately he said he will not run away again. so doesnt he realise that he being in bad company will hurt his mom as well?

Coming to eve teasing - i hv said this earlier also. i put this in to same as Arjun stealing paper... all who were upset with Naina for not bringing out Arjun's deeds in open, are overlooking that Sameer is not going against his so called new found friend. friends who met few days back Vs. real brother. People get upset wen today Arjun tries to say anything to Naina (the incident wen she failed came out). so wen in future Sameer will say anything to Naina related to how to b or anything related to her, will any one say that jab eve teasing chal raha tha tab kahan tha ye Sameer?

So few days back they show he gets upset seeing some random guy latching over random gals pic and he has so much impact on him that wen he visits A'bad to meet love of his life, he just ran away from her just because she clicked that pic just for him.

He makes mistakes, realizes, repents and does everything to correct it. so does his actions get justified? again people will come defending that oh wow how he has rectified his mistakes...making the character all Mahan during Agrawal house stay to joining Mawali gang - we must applaud CVs👏

Edited by Hearttalks_90s - 7 years ago

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Aisha

@Samaina_16

Dazzler

+ 3

Posted: 7 years ago

#16

Originally posted by: Hearttalks_90s
brilliant post n answers which will i guess remain unanswered...
@Rucha - CVs se milke puchte hain mere sawaaalooon ka jawab do na 😡

wen its being said he is being carried away due to his loneliness, how come he remembers to tell Naina to concentrate on study. he sneaked into the room and at the same moment his mother came in, caressed him and tucked him... he was happy seeing that and again immediately he said he will not run away again. so doesnt he realise that he being in bad company will hurt his mom as well?

Coming to eve teasing - i hv said this earlier also. i put this in to same as Arjun stealing paper... all who were upset with Naina for not bringing out Arjun's deeds in open, are overlooking that Sameer is not going against his so called new found friend. friends who met few days back Vs. real brother. People get upset wen today Arjun tries to say anything to Naina (the incident wen she failed came out). so wen in future Sameer will say anything to Naina related to how to b or anything related to her, will any one say that jab eve teasing chal raha tha tab kahan tha ye Sameer?

So few days back they show he gets upset seeing some random guy latching over random gals pic and he has so much impact on him that wen he visits A'bad to meet love of his life, he just ran away from her just because she clicked that pic just for him.

He makes mistakes, realizes, repents and does everything to correct it. so does his actions get justified? again people will come defending that oh wow how he has rectified his mistakes...making the character all Mahan during Agrawal house stay to joining Mawali gang - we must applaud CVs👏

Dhruvi, dil le lo😉 ekdum dil ki baatein keh di😉

Mai, Abhi, Rucha, Simi sab inhi sawalo me teen din se uljhe hain, lekin lagta nahi jawab aaega.

Haina that's what I don't understand. He was lonely before coming to Ahmedabad too. Aur ab to uske paas naina, mundit bhi hain, physically nahi but emotionally to hain hi.

You know what Dhruvi, I was so angry at Naina for forgetting her chachaji's sach vala gyaan when it came to Arjun. Though I still am (I can neither forgive Naina for that nor Sameer for all this), but if Sameer's VO can justify his misdeeds, we should get Naina's VO too ki ' kitni galat thi mai' aur baat khatam👏. Naina to fir b khud ke bhai ko defend kr rhi thi. Ek Arjun ka VO bhi de do kitna galat tha mai😉

@ Bold: exactly, we all waited so long for Samaina to meet. Writers turned it into a tragedy. We all accepted that too ki chalo theek hain ldke possessive hote hain. Pr kya fayda tha ye SB dikhane ka jab bhaisahab ne unhi ldko se dosti krni thi jo ldkiya chedte hain😕

You know dhruvi, vaise to mjhe Sameer ka bigadna hi is point pe sahi nahi lgta. Pe cig, cards fir bhi jhel jaati main, but he still choosing to roam out with guys who enjoy teasing girls is what I can not digest at all. And it has been I think 10-15 days now and he is still friends with them.

As a person who has loved Sameer's journey in Ahmedabad, who has admired him whole heartedly, I can not see this action of his being justified. Even now if after 2-3 epi he chooses to speak up and break his friendship with them , I won't be able to connect with it.

Jaane kitni bar sameer baba bolenge aaj bhi vo din yaad krta hun to gussa ata h mjhe😆

Han Cvs ke liye to sashtang pranam

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Dhruvi

@Hearttalks_90s

Voyager

+ 4

Posted: 7 years ago

#17

Originally posted by: AaishaM
Dhruvi, dil le lo😉 ekdum dil ki baatein keh di😉
Mai, Abhi, Rucha, Simi sab inhi sawalo me teen din se uljhe hain, lekin lagta nahi jawab aaega.

Haina that's what I don't understand. He was lonely before coming to Ahmedabad too. Aur ab to uske paas naina, mundit bhi hain, physically nahi but emotionally to hain hi.

You know what Dhruvi, I was so angry at Naina for forgetting her chachaji's sach vala gyaan when it came to Arjun. Though I still am (I can neither forgive Naina for that nor Sameer for all this), but if Sameer's VO can justify his misdeeds, we should get Naina's VO too ki ' kitni galat thi mai' aur baat khatam👏. Naina to fir b khud ke bhai ko defend kr rhi thi. Ek Arjun ka VO bhi de do kitna galat tha mai😉

@ Bold: exactly, we all waited so long for Samaina to meet. Writers turned it into a tragedy. We all accepted that too ki chalo theek hain ldke possessive hote hain. Pr kya fayda tha ye SB dikhane ka jab bhaisahab ne unhi ldko se dosti krni thi jo ldkiya chedte hain😕

You know dhruvi, vaise to mjhe Sameer ka bigadna hi is point pe sahi nahi lgta. Pe cig, cards fir bhi jhel jaati main, but he still choosing to roam out with guys who enjoy teasing girls is what I can not digest at all. And it has been I think 10-15 days now and he is still friends with them.

As a person who has loved Sameer's journey in Ahmedabad, who has admired him whole heartedly, I can not see this action of his being justified. Even now if after 2-3 epi he chooses to speak up and break his friendship with them , I won't be able to connect with it.

Jaane kitni bar sameer baba bolenge aaj bhi vo din yaad krta hun to gussa ata h mjhe😆

Han Cvs ke liye to sashtang pranam

kuch nai ho sakta is topic ka... CVs bas use realise karva denge. aur u know how Naina told in Sameer in hospital... mene galti ki mene maafi mang li, me to ganga naha liya. baat khatam

bas ye hi honewala.

i hate Arjun for crumbling down to peer pressure and CVs not getting him introspect any of his actions... per 1 baat to hai agar Sameer new friends ke peer pressure mein ye sab kar sakta hai aur eve teasing tolerate kar sakta hai to Arjun ko Safari Suit ka pressure pata nai kitne saalon se hai. wen he was in wheel chair his father wasnt worried about his pain but more so for match n prize money... to ab kon kitna galat hai.

even if tomorrow Sameer beats the hell out of those mawali guys for eve teasing, i still dont get his peer pressure thing which let him go off in first place. plus he shud hv let the gals brother hit those guys. why to save such people wen u know they r absolutely wrong? shayad unko maar khake thodi akal aa jati...

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Phoenix

@Phoenix100

Sparkler

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Posted: 7 years ago

#18

Thank you for this post aaisha

You said everything 👏

Sameer falling into the trap of mawaali guys at this point doesn't make sense at all... His process of growing up had been gradual and he attained maturity with time... As u said the best kind of growth any male lead ever had in Indian television.

In most of the shows, ML is shown as doing all sort of bad things and then he falls for the FL... Suddenly starts changing due to her influence... Bt in yudkbh it wasn't like that... It wasn't just naina who was instrumental in his change... Mundit and nanu had equal role to play... Two situations i remember

1. During the headboy competition, mundit encouraged sameer to cheat... Nanu overhears it and when alone, he explains to sameer how using shortcuts in life is not the right way... After that he never tried to cheat... Nanu's words were like patthar ke lakeer for him... He didn't steal the papers or even let mundit do anything to disqualify arjun... He remained true to his promise given to nanu

2. After the bet revelation, he was so guilty that he wasn't ready to face naina... It was mundit who showed him mirror at that time and made him understand that apologizing to naina is important... They made him realize that he has to face naina... Sameer easily understood and after that he left no stone unturned to get her apology.

Are we supposed to believe that this same boy will now turn into bad company and do all sort of bad things?

I can still bear him drinking, smoking and playing cards and accept is as the fault of his tender age... Bt what abt eve teasing?... No i cant accept that sameer can turn blind eye to his called friends enjoying teasing women or even be friends with those guys... Whatever other shortcomings sameer had in the past, he was always respectful towards women.

He is the same sameer who beat up one of those bet boys on the first day of school for speaking ill of his mother.

He is the sane guy who saved naina's reputation in mt. Abu and got beaten up by rakesh in the process.

He is the same guy who made swati naina patch up.. It was clear that he wanted them to patch up not for his selfish reasons.

He is the same guy who rejected kamya's advances when literally threw herself on him.. That too by simply saying that he has someone else in his life.

He is the same guy who couldn't bear it when some random guys were lusting over the pics of some random girls.

I can't believe the same guy can still being friends with eve teasers... The reason given for beein friends with them is equally lame... Because of cigarette drama, he felt suffocated at somani house... The drama wasn't even that big... In fact vishaka fully trusted him and stood up for him in front of somani.. Is that all what he wanted in his life?... He dis mention it many times that his mother's love and trust matters... He's getting that now.

If he can advise naina to concentrate on her studies again and again, the he must be well aware of what he is doing... He could atleast stop hanging out with them... This mawaali track is being introduced out of the blue... It doesn't have any base... Boredom is not enough reason for this.

As u said aaisha, naina's letters and Nanu's teachings are enough to keep him grounded... Just for the sake of drama, these kind of tracks are shown which doesn't have any head or tail.

Instead of this, siblings bonding, vishakha sameer relationship improving, sameer adjusting in new school would have been much better... Had these things shown, delhi track would have been one of the best tracks so far.

I'm still hoping for things to improve snd this mawaali track ending soon.

Edited by angelic567 - 7 years ago

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Priyanka

@priya_nka_yudkb

Dazzler

Posted: 7 years ago

#19

I am not against the mawali track completely but eve teasing is not accepted, it's more the way story is unfolding. There is no continuity. VO is good but these days it is overload of voiceover to explain band justify everything. Earlier we had to ignore a few things. But now there are just too many to ignore. Dadi's character, Rohan not speaking, Sameer not going to school when everyone else is during summer vacation.

It seems bonding between siblings needs to wait as mawali track is going on. Mundit fight resolution needs to wait as Naina's focus on studying needs to be shown. Arjun shefali pata nahi Kahan hai... Puja did ki to Shaadi karke bhool hi gaye.

Earlier every character use to have a substantial role. All stories were progressing in pararllel.. Abhi have no clue what's going on.

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sanfan

@sanfan

Rocker

+ 2

Posted: 7 years ago

#20

Somewhere I think... YUD is based on an oft used quote about relationships

All relationships go thru hell... but real relationships get through it!! (ofc...i wont say these kids have gone through hell but yes they have definitely gone through their share of travails..)

I am attempting a reply to your post; it won't be easy to offer a counter narrative but I will try.

You have raised some valid points on the transformation but if I may ask... what if the writer has perceived this a bit differently than many have been seeing it? I guess the CVs have hammered in to our heads how circumstances have contributed to Sam's character traits... while we debated the circumstances but have we debated threadbare the traits that have been formed as result of it and how Sameer responds to situations.

I am going to state something provocative here...please bear with me as I am just going to play the devil's advocate here...What if Naina wasnt the loving girl in Mount Abu, which Sameer claims was the reason for his transformation..how far would Sameer have gone ahead with his charade on the bet saga? What I mean is Sameer not justified in his action only becos Naina was the loving sort. Are Sameer's actions justified if it was some other girl who was perhaps not as loving by nature as say Naina...I am making a larger point here...

The picture that made Sameer uncomfortable...was it becos he imagined Naina in the situation? But frankly. taking up a cause for our loved ones is something almost everyone does...but can we relate to the cause even if none of us were involved is a question for Sameer, Mundit everyone concerned. I am not sure if the writers intend to answer that question but i do believe from the voice overs that the writers are more in control of the narrative than the viewers give them credit for. Sameer is clearly accepting he was WORK iN PROGRESS...

Sam is a guy who responds well to encouragement is well documented. Yet, to claim his transformation is complete may not be entirely true..While the circumstances explain why Sam has a propensity for attracting trouble..for the narrative to suggest that he will always dive deep into it before getting out also means he perhaps has to work at a way to avoid the unnecessary trouble in the first place. For instance, he knows that Dadi was doing things to trouble him...he has seen that Vishakha ( der se hio sahi...) is extending some sort of an olive branch. Will he grasp it or will it be out of his actual grasp due to some of his ill-advised actions? That remains to be be seen.

To assume that Naina and all that happened in Ahmedabad has taught him all his lessons in life is perhaps assuming too much maturity at this young age.

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