Delhi vala Sameer - Page 3

Originally posted by: sanfan

Somewhere I think... YUD is based on an oft used quote about relationships

All relationships go thru hell... but real relationships get through it!! (ofc...i wont say these kids have gone through hell but yes they have definitely gone through their share of travails..)

I am attempting a reply to your post; it won't be easy to offer a counter narrative but I will try.

You have raised some valid points on the transformation but if I may ask... what if the writer has perceived this a bit differently than many have been seeing it? I guess the CVs have hammered in to our heads how circumstances have contributed to Sam's character traits... while we debated the circumstances but have we debated threadbare the traits that have been formed as result of it and how Sameer responds to situations.

I am going to state something provocative here...please bear with me as I am just going to play the devil's advocate here...What if Naina wasnt the loving girl in Mount Abu, which Sameer claims was the reason for his transformation..how far would Sameer have gone ahead with his charade on the bet saga? What I mean is Sameer not justified in his action only becos Naina was the loving sort. Are Sameer's actions justified if it was some other girl who was perhaps not as loving by nature as say Naina...I am making a larger point here...

The picture that made Sameer uncomfortable...was it becos he imagined Naina in the situation? But frankly. taking up a cause for our loved ones is something almost everyone does...but can we relate to the cause even if none of us were involved is a question for Sameer, Mundit everyone concerned. I am not sure if the writers intend to answer that question but i do believe from the voice overs that the writers are more in control of the narrative than the viewers give them credit for. Sameer is clearly accepting he was WORK iN PROGRESS...

Sam is a guy who responds well to encouragement is well documented. Yet, to claim his transformation is complete may not be entirely true..While the circumstances explain why Sam has a propensity for attracting trouble..for the narrative to suggest that he will always dive deep into it before getting out also means he perhaps has to work at a way to avoid the unnecessary trouble in the first place. For instance, he knows that Dadi was doing things to trouble him...he has seen that Vishakha ( der se hio sahi...) is extending some sort of an olive branch. Will he grasp it or will it be out of his actual grasp due to some of his ill-advised actions? That remains to be be seen.

To assume that Naina and all that happened in Ahmedabad has taught him all his lessons in life is perhaps assuming too much maturity at this young age.

Originally posted by: Hearttalks_90s

kuch nai ho sakta is topic ka... CVs bas use realise karva denge. aur u know how Naina told in Sameer in hospital... mene galti ki mene maafi mang li, me to ganga naha liya. baat khatam

bas ye hi honewala.

i hate Arjun for crumbling down to peer pressure and CVs not getting him introspect any of his actions... per 1 baat to hai agar Sameer new friends ke peer pressure mein ye sab kar sakta hai aur eve teasing tolerate kar sakta hai to Arjun ko Safari Suit ka pressure pata nai kitne saalon se hai. wen he was in wheel chair his father wasnt worried about his pain but more so for match n prize money... to ab kon kitna galat hai.

even if tomorrow Sameer beats the hell out of those mawali guys for eve teasing, i still dont get his peer pressure thing which let him go off in first place. plus he shud hv let the gals brother hit those guys. why to save such people wen u know they r absolutely wrong? shayad unko maar khake thodi akal aa jati...

Originally posted by: RaDev_Fan1

Btw where does Sameer hide Naina's letter? Itni CID search le baad bhi kissike haath nahi aaye ;-)🤣

Originally posted by: RaDev_Fan1

I am not against the mawali track completely but eve teasing is not accepted, it's more the way story is unfolding. There is no continuity. VO is good but these days it is overload of voiceover to explain band justify everything. Earlier we had to ignore a few things. But now there are just too many to ignore. Dadi's character, Rohan not speaking, Sameer not going to school when everyone else is during summer vacation.

It seems bonding between siblings needs to wait as mawali track is going on. Mundit fight resolution needs to wait as Naina's focus on studying needs to be shown. Arjun shefali pata nahi Kahan hai... Puja did ki to Shaadi karke bhool hi gaye.

Earlier every character use to have a substantial role. All stories were progressing in pararllel.. Abhi have no clue what's going on.

Originally posted by: angelic567

Thank you for this post aaisha

You said everything 👏

Sameer falling into the trap of mawaali guys at this point doesn't make sense at all... His process of growing up had been gradual and he attained maturity with time... As u said the best kind of growth any male lead ever had in Indian television.

In most of the shows, ML is shown as doing all sort of bad things and then he falls for the FL... Suddenly starts changing due to her influence... Bt in yudkbh it wasn't like that... It wasn't just naina who was instrumental in his change... Mundit and nanu had equal role to play... Two situations i remember

1. During the headboy competition, mundit encouraged sameer to cheat... Nanu overhears it and when alone, he explains to sameer how using shortcuts in life is not the right way... After that he never tried to cheat... Nanu's words were like patthar ke lakeer for him... He didn't steal the papers or even let mundit do anything to disqualify arjun... He remained true to his promise given to nanu

2. After the bet revelation, he was so guilty that he wasn't ready to face naina... It was mundit who showed him mirror at that time and made him understand that apologizing to naina is important... They made him realize that he has to face naina... Sameer easily understood and after that he left no stone unturned to get her apology.

Are we supposed to believe that this same boy will now turn into bad company and do all sort of bad things?

I can still bear him drinking, smoking and playing cards and accept is as the fault of his tender age... Bt what abt eve teasing?... No i cant accept that sameer can turn blind eye to his called friends enjoying teasing women or even be friends with those guys... Whatever other shortcomings sameer had in the past, he was always respectful towards women.

He is the same sameer who beat up one of those bet boys on the first day of school for speaking ill of his mother.

He is the sane guy who saved naina's reputation in mt. Abu and got beaten up by rakesh in the process.

He is the same guy who made swati naina patch up.. It was clear that he wanted them to patch up not for his selfish reasons.

He is the same guy who rejected kamya's advances when literally threw herself on him.. That too by simply saying that he has someone else in his life.

He is the same guy who couldn't bear it when some random guys were lusting over the pics of some random girls.

I can't believe the same guy can still being friends with eve teasers... The reason given for beein friends with them is equally lame... Because of cigarette drama, he felt suffocated at somani house... The drama wasn't even that big... In fact vishaka fully trusted him and stood up for him in front of somani.. Is that all what he wanted in his life?... He dis mention it many times that his mother's love and trust matters... He's getting that now.

If he can advise naina to concentrate on her studies again and again, the he must be well aware of what he is doing... He could atleast stop hanging out with them... This mawaali track is being introduced out of the blue... It doesn't have any base... Boredom is not enough reason for this.

As u said aaisha, naina's letters and Nanu's teachings are enough to keep him grounded... Just for the sake of drama, these kind of tracks are shown which doesn't have any head or tail.

Instead of this, siblings bonding, vishakha sameer relationship improving, sameer adjusting in new school would have been much better... Had these things shown, delhi track would have been one of the best tracks so far.

I'm still hoping for things to improve snd this mawaali track ending soon.

Originally posted by: kb_always_96

Totally agree😉

Dil ki baat keh di tumne😉

Dil le lo❤️

To be honest, this mawali track makes no sense! This track is portraying sameer as a weak person! All the growth in his character are getting dusted in this track! Initially i was excited about the delhi track but it turns out to be a disappointment! Sameer VO just keeps saying the same thing, Uss din ko yaad karta hoon toh mujhe gussa aata hai blah blah... It would be better if they give us a fair count of about how many such "uss din" are left out! I don't see rohan getting any dialogues or any bonding happening between Rohan! Rather focussing on that, tgey are focussing on unwanted drama!

I really don't know what cvs and all the others in the set are upto these days! Lots of bloopers! I agree that no one can be perfect snd sometimes it happens, but not everytime! There are some contradicting statements over Naina topping the examinations! FB scenes and dream scenes makes no sense! In that baloon scene, there was no one in the school and from where did sameer get so much baloons suddenly! Instead of showing lots of samaina scenes as Fbs , they could have briefly showed us the dating phase! I just feel that popularity of the show had turned them crazy! They just seem to focus on increasing the TRPs! Too much of unwanted drama, saazish, negativity which are all unnecessary!

I just hope they end this track soon and focus on sameer & Rohan's bonding, sameer and naina completing 12th, sameer taking care of nanu's business etc!

My points will be here & there scattered! Hope you get it😆

Originally posted by: BintaPatel

Aisha ❤️ Dil Lelo for this post..Totally agree with u and I also do feel tht this track is completely unnecessary..I was so so excited for Delhi track and long distance relationship.,But I m not satisfied the way the story is progressing..I can't t able to accept Mawali Sameer and i don't understand why they are trying to spoil his character..We hv seen his growth as a matured teenager and sometimes I find him even more matured than Rakesh too..Now suddenly he became frnds with bad guys and he knws tht they are wrong and still he is roaming with them.,i can't digest one thing tht how can one person suddenly changed so much..

Thanks for this post 🤗 ❤️

Originally posted by: AaishaM

First of all, thanks for offering a new perspective to think upon😳

No, I never intended to justify any of Sameer's wrong actions. Placing a bet to woo a girl to take revenge is any day wrong. That doesn't matter if there was some other girl who was not as goody goody as Naina. All I wanted to say was that as Sameer started realising his mistakes, he tried to delay the I love you saying part. He is realising his mistake here also (VO) but how much time does he always need to get out of a bad situation?

Yes, sameer might have imagined Naina in that situation seeing that photoframe but Sameer didn't imagine Naina when he saw that event unfold at the barber's shop. He didn't like those guys talking bad about girls. There was no hint of him thinking about naina at that time. So it does mean that he doesn't appreciate these cheap antics. It was not Naina who triggered his inner instincts here. So I won't say Sameer will react only when his closed ones are in trouble.

And yes I completely agree with you, he always dives deeply into the trouble before getting out. I am not saying he matured completely in Ahmedabad. Obviously he is a 17 year old kid. He will not always act perfect. I am even ready to accept that he starts smoking or roaming around doing nothing. But choosing to remain friends with people who enjoy eve teasing doesn't really go well with me. I guess 10-15 days have already passed in the show after the two eve teasing incidents. And I think the time is enough to at least think of breaking friendship with those boys.

And again I am not saying that he matured completely in Ahmedabad. But as things were shown to us by the makers, I as a viewer really admired Sameer's transformation and I would have loved if they showed him dealing a little more maturely in this situation considering the fact that many days have already passed in Delhi.

Regarding Dadi, he knows she doesn't like him. He knows she is always trying to kick him out. His anger is his weakness and he is trapped in between somanis. He has already tried to tell everyone that dadi and keshav are playing tricks with him but novody believed him. So How does he comes out of it is yet to be seen as you said.

But chossing to remain friends with those boys was completely his call. He could have easily shooed them away after the eve teasing incident.

That's my POV