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Posted: 7 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: MadhuriKanak

I don't understand how Guys promote themselves as Loving BFs/Husbands while flirting with other Girls being in a serious relationship? Whatever weird stuff they do, girls should be ok kya? This is weird & on top of it, they blame good girls who have not done any mistakes.

We see in Real World also these kinds of Guys who say they are in a Serious Relationship & flirt with their Friends Gfs/wives. They do all sorts of vulgar stuff and show, then GF/Wife should be ok? Is this what they want and expect ? Real Girls who value Relationships can also be like Sameer right? Why can't they walk away when their BFs cheat on them?
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sorry ridz,to write on ur thread ..
Madhuri,im confused whn did Sameer flirt wit another gurl..He only flirted wit Naina to win the bet n eventually fell in luv wit her..He is in a serious relationship wit her n he is never ever gona cheat on her..Even today he hasnt doubted Nainas intentions..All he was thinkin abt how the photographer must have had a bad thought while takin her pics n how some lafange guys wil comment once her pic is up in the studio..He values their relationship jus as Naina does..
He will realize he hurt her once he gets back to normal..Stayin in Delhi wit ppl not like family and dadis antics have taken a toll on him for which hes gettin back his anger for no reason @ all,and today was one such day where instead of being nice he hurt Naina for no fault of hers,and pretty soon hes gona realize wat he has done..Im not tryin to say Sameer isnt wrong etc..
he is wrong but his intention to hurt her wasnt planned ,it was his anger which tuk over his mind today..If it was the earlier Naina,she wud have blaste dhim for this behavior,but now shes in luv wit him n deep down she knows tat something is bothering him for wat he has done..Her conversation wit preeti made me say this..She is still confused as to wat went wrong wit the pic but didnt blame for wat he did..They both trust each other..Nanus sudden demise,and stayin in Delhi is messing up Sameer big time,n todays outburst was tat affect which was on Naina for no fault of hers..They wil come into a phase where he wil mature n stop acting silly and think properly before reactin
Edited by anjalii123 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: anjalii123


sorry ridz,to write on ur thread ..
Madhuri,im confused whn did Sameer flirt wit another gurl..He only flirted wit Naina to win the bet n eventually fell in luv wit her..He is in a serious relationship wit her n he is never ever gona cheat on her..Even today he hasnt doubted Nainas intentions..All he was thinkin abt how the photographer must have had a bad thought while takin her pics n how some lafange guys wil comment once her pic is up in the studio..He values their relationship jus as Naina does..
He will realize he hurt her once he gets back to normal..Stayin in Delhi wit ppl not like family and dadis antics have taken a toll on him for which hes gettin back his anger for no reason @ all,and today was one such day where instead of being nice he hurt Naina for no fault of hers,and pretty soon hes gona realize wat he has done..Im not tryin to say Sameer isnt wrong etc..
he is wrong but his intention to hurt her wasnt planned ,it was his anger which tuk over his mind today..If it was the earlier Naina,she wud have blaste dhim for this behavior,but now shes in luv wit him n deep down she knows tat something is bothering him for wat he has done..Her conversation wit preeti made me say this..She is still confused as to wat went wrong wit the pic but didnt blame for wat he did..They both trust each other..Nanus sudden demise,and stayin in Delhi is messing up Sameer big time,n todays outburst was tat affect which was on Naina for no fault of hers..They wil come into a phase where he wil mature n stop acting silly and think properly before reactin



Hey no need to say sorry. We are all buddies 😆 And yes I agree with you on this he has never cheated on her. And infact Sameer's love for her is very strong. Just his way of expressing himself is very man like lol😆 Not mushy mushy like woman expect the ideal/bollywood style man to be😆 I swear bollywood plays tricks on young girls like us to make us think that man are mushy mushy and all romantic like shahrukh khan but, in reality man are very practical and real lol😆
Edited by paagalbandar - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: paagalbandar




NO girl, what you are describing is completely out of the line😆 What we are describing is slight possessiveness or rather protectiveness that a man feels towards the women they love. These are two different things 😆😆 Their way of expressing love is different than female expression of love. What you are describing is cheating literally, and if a man loves and respects you, he will never stoop that low. A little bit of possessiveness does exist in both genders. However man show possessiveness as anger. But anger is not extreme like beating the wife/gf, that anger is like kid's anger...like throwing tantrum, or like being angry and cribbing lol...pls don't think to that extreme😆



Next level of Possessiveness is Cheating Girl. I am also talking about Possessiveness only and the effects of overtly doubting be it in Guys or Girls.



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Posted: 7 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: paagalbandar



Girl you are thinking extreme lol. Little bit of possessiveness exists in all of us. The way a female expresses it is different than the way male expresses it. And to me, Sameer's expression was preety normal for his age, and his gender. He will grow and than he will learn as his experience grows about how to control his hormones and how to control his anger. All of us go through this phase. Even girls do.

I remember when I was in highschool, girls and boys in our class were fascinated with experimenting things and indulging in high risk behavior. For that age it was normal psychology. To their brain and from their experiences, they had not learned how to control their emotions, how to express them, and how to put forward their feeling in different way. And boys though they grow up, are a little child like even as adult when it comes to expression of their feelings. Not just in India, its across the world. A little bit of possessiveness is normal. As long as it doesn't turn into physical violence or hurting people they love, its normal. If it turns into extremes like you guys are talking about, than its abnormal. Remember not all five fingers in your hand are the same, just like that not everyone in this world can express their emotions the same way😆 And please don't say you will slap someone, if it is not okay for a man to hit a woman, its also not okay for a woman to hit a man. Tali ek haath se nahin bajti...sorry no offense.😆

I am a doctor. This is how psycology works.
There's no such thing as male behavior or female behavior.What you saw in high school was normalized aggression approved by society.
Any person with degree in psychology can tell u how male aggression n possessiveness is normalized in a patriachal society.Ignoring these little things leads to ego in men.
This has to be controlled in teenage itself.
Girls are taught to tolerate this in the name of love.This is internalised mysogyny.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: MadhuriKanak



Next level of Possessiveness is Cheating Girl. I am also talking about Possessiveness only and the effects of overtly doubting be it in Guys or Girls.



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lol girl and that is what not we are all discussing...we are talking about little possessiveness, and protectiveness that exists in male. You are talking about extreme possessiveness lol. And as per Sameer, he is not doubting Naina in any way. Infact they showed that quite clearly. He reacted thinking about the incident that happened in Delhi with the girl's photos that were posted on the window. And the way those guys were commenting disgustingly towards the women in the photo. He related that to what Naina's incident . And that is why he asked her if she went alone. And she said yes. So to him, he didn't feel so much of betrayal but, he felt like that those guys or someone like them were looking at her in the same way like those guys were starring at those girls. It was distressful to him to imagine looking at the woman in wrong way. And also you see if he was a wrong guy, he wouldn't have mind those guys disrespecting women. Infact, expression on his face in Delhi was also of anger. He didn't like those guys disrespecting her. So I think what you are saying and what we are discussing in this thread are a bit different things. We all go through this little bit of possessiveness that Sameer felt towards Naina. His way of expression was a bit teenage like. But just like VO said (which is an adult Sameer), that he didn't know why he did that, and he still regrets it. That is a change in him as he goes into the adulthood. So at that point in time, to him how he reacted was according to him very normal. But if he thought about it as adult Sameer, it was not. Do you get what I am saying now? We are not supporting extreme possessiveness in this thread. We are just saying that what we are seeing for his age, it is quite often seen in real life. And that as the time progresses, depending on a person's experience and how they learn, their way of expression will defer. It might remain childlike or it may change a bit. But again, you cannot expect a man to behave like a woman. I used to think the same way like wth how can a guy control me and this and that. But as I grew older, I realized that its not so much of control, its more of a care. The guy cares for you, therefore, he in his way is saying don't do this. He is having hard time telling you b/c he is a guy, and its hard for him to describe to you what the other men might be thinking about you, so he does it this way by cribbing or showing anger. I am certain, that Sameer will shape into an amazing individual. But he will definitely not be able to express his emotions like we woman do. It will still remain male like but a bit more mature.
Edited by paagalbandar - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: PrincessLeah

I am a doctor. This is how psycology works.
There's no such thing as male behavior or female behavior.What you saw in high school was normalized aggression approved by society.
Any person with degree in psychology can tell u how male aggression n possessiveness is normalized in a patriachal society.Ignoring these little things leads to ego in men.
This has to be controlled in teenage itself.
Girls are taught to tolerate this in the name of love.This is internalised mysogyny.



lol girl no one here said to ignore it. Everyone here is just saying that it does happen that way at certain in male. Eventually male experience the world, they learn how to control themselves and express themselves a bit better than they used to as teenagers. Sameer is still a teenager. And he is one without any support. So yes from his view point, his reaction was preety teenage male like. But eventually he will mature, he will experience the world, he will learn to express himself like the VO said. And than we will get to see an adult Sameer. These are all phases of life that everyone goes through. But there is a saying Male mature later than female, and I am talking mentally. lol😆 And not everyone is the same, I am sure you have learned that in psychology. No two people are same. It doesn't mean one is more normal and other one is abnormal. Our experiences shape who we are as people and how we turn out eventually. I am sure as Sameer comes to Adulthood, he will realize what he did was silly at the time, and I believe VO did admit to it.
Edited by paagalbandar - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#47
Boyz very well knows how other boy thinks...wht cheap they think
I completely agree withispost...our Bf, Brother& Hubby would have reacted the same way how Sam did...they are overprotective when it comes to GF, Sister & wife

Do we dont know what kind of things happening around...this photo studio people can do anything with photo...this was the situation in 90's and now as well

Nothing has changed rather things has worsened

Sameee got little hyper...his VO alsomentioned that...but what can we expect from 17 yrs old boy.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: PritiSC

Boyz very well knows how other boy thinks...wht cheap they think

I completely agree withispost...our Bf, Brother& Hubby would have reacted the same way how Sam did...they are overprotective when it comes to GF, Sister & wife

Do we dont know what kind of things happening around...this photo studio people can do anything with photo...this was the situation in 90's and now as well

Nothing has changed rather things has worsened

Sameee got little hyper...his VO alsomentioned that...but what can we expect from 17 yrs old boy.



Yes Priti, this is what I am trying to point out lol😆 Thanks for understanding hahahha😆 And to tell you honestly, I don't mind a little possessiveness from men of my family...It just shows me that they care...And knowing them so well, I know that, touch wood, guys that I have come across whether its my Sam, my friends, my bro, or my dad, may be possessive, but, they are all extremely good guys...guys that will not watch any girl being tortured, disrespected or harassed in front of them. Infact, just the other day, I was being bugged by some guy on fb, and my bro, my hubby, and my friends, they found out about it. And they were so cuteee, in their own manly way, they all went out to find the person who was bugging me. And didn't say a word to me. Infact, they said if someone is bothering you, you must tell us. lol So yes, little bit of possessiveness is normal, and infact its very satisfying to know that someone actually genuninely cares for your well being. I am sure Naina will appreciate Sameer, ones she finds out why he said what he said. I don't think she is looking at his outburst, she is just trying to find out why he reacted that way. And when she does, she will feel more respect for him.
Edited by paagalbandar - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Sameer's reaction if you see is justified in a lot of ways. It's not only possessiveness,jealousy or anger but also love, concern and protective instincts which kicks in any male when he sees any foreign entity making an untoward move towards his loved ones. He was somewhere recalling the incidents from the Delhi studio when he saw naina 's picture and imagining her in a similarly lewd ambience so it's quite obvious he reacted the way he did. It was a way of claiming naina as his not only in a beloved sense but also for him to protect. May be the direction of the anger was wrong since what naina did was to cheer him up but then if you see sameer's back story, you can't help but sympathethize with the fellow. He already has a lot going on about in his life with daadi tormenting him in every possible way, naanaji's death, his mother's indifference and separation from naina. All these can make any man's patience hang by a fraying thread. So it was not entirely one emotion that he displayed through his anger in the last episode rather amalgamation of many emotions. Just my opinion. Many of you may differ.
Edited by doublecross - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: PrincessLeah

I am a doctor. This is how psycology works.
There's no such thing as male behavior or female behavior.What you saw in high school was normalized aggression approved by society.
Any person with degree in psychology can tell u how male aggression n possessiveness is normalized in a patriachal society.Ignoring these little things leads to ego in men.
This has to be controlled in teenage itself.
Girls are taught to tolerate this in the name of love.This is internalised mysogyny.


Are you saying that a man should never protest when he sees other men lusting after innocent women? I get your point here itWas a hypothetical situation where he imagines naina in place of those studio girls. But what he was protesting against was completely right. After all thoseguys took one of the studio girls pictures with them. Am sure you must be knowing what next they must have thought about doing with that picture. Since you are a psychologist and since you understand male ego and misogyny so well. Yes his anger was misdirected which even the voiceover talked about but not what he was protesting against. Because he was protesting against those guys who were visually disrobing an innocent girl/girls for no fault of theirs. Much like rape.

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