HOW NAINA MAY BECOME PARASITIC & HARMFUL FOR SAMEER? Hard Truth - Page 3

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Why is everything based on an assumption. Why are we jumping guns on what might happen? Some days back Sameer was on this boat.. Today he is redeemed. Why not Naina? We are in the middle of a story. The book isn't compete. We are in the middle of a chapter. We do not know whether Naina remains the same or has evolved . Why do we have to use such strong words (parasite etc) just because we are impatient to watch the end?😆
Let the story unfold. If by the end if it Naina remains the same. Let's discuss.

Also I'm totally of the old school when it comes to relationships. I do not believe in50-50. There are days one person gives more.. There are days the other does. The time we start keeping an account of how much the one has done for the other, there is no love. It's just math. True for any relationship - parent/kids, friends , student-teacher. Sab cheez tolke nahi kar sakte.
Today it's Sameer who is contributing more .I want to "assume" next time it's Naina. And whenever they do .. It's an investment forTHEIR love and not a sacrifice.

It's their journey and not the end. And if they are really meant to be they will go through every hardship such as these and come out stronger . Sameer has and I'm sure Naina will to. I as a viewer have come to see this journey... Where they grow stronger and understand each other better with every passing situation . But for thatt I wil have to waitt till the chapter ends if not the entire story.

Rakeshhh forme iss a hurdle / hardship in their love story. If he traverses his journey to being a good father...goodfor him😆o
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Sorry for the typoss ..mykeyboard is acting upe
Edited by URnotThisBody - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#22
Well Said... Unless Naina gets a spine to take on her father and brother - irrespective of the lakshman rekha between relationships, she is not helping.

Now she is young, confused, trying to be loyal to her brother at the cost of Sameer.

The fact Sameer made and bet and broke her heart makes her feel its ok he is going thru what he is. But eventually it will not be ok.
And that's the day she will stop trying to seek her fathers approval for everything..

Sameer may be in love but he is nobodys fool. He admits to a mistake and will not stand up for a wrong blame ( as we saw when he caught Rakesh's hand).

He will keep quiet too but to a point. I dont think his grandfathers respect will be less than Naina. But if it comes to that he will step away till Naina can respect him and stand by him.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: prem_diwani

Well Said... Unless Naina gets a spine to take on her father and brother - irrespective of the lakshman rekha between relationships, she is not helping.

Now she is young, confused, trying to be loyal to her brother at the cost of Sameer.

The fact Sameer made and bet and broke her heart makes her feel its ok he is going thru what he is. But eventually it will not be ok.
And that's the day she will stop trying to seek her fathers approval for everything..

Sameer may be in love but he is nobodys fool. He admits to a mistake and will not stand up for a wrong blame ( as we saw when he caught Rakesh's hand).

He will keep quiet too but to a point. I dont think his grandfathers respect will be less than Naina. But if it comes to that he will step away till Naina can respect him and stand by him.




Very well said.

Because it will eventually come to a standstill at this particular moment. As Samina 1990 put forth in her views, Sameer should not be accepting all these insulting name calling to him which leads to name calling his Nanaji.

He will go through all that till a point. I agree Naina is young, confused and dream broken. But eventually, she has to take a stand irrespective of her anger and dissatisfaction with Sameer.

The moment she starts melting towards him, the first thing she must do, is to absolve Sameer of all the wrong accusations and abuses by her father/brother.

If she goes soft and reaccepts her love for Sameer (without doing the above stated), that will be a narrative blunder. As Nanaji said "No lie should be a basis for a relationship."

Sameer's lie is caught. He is trying. It's understandable that Naina won't believe him. But underneath her anger, her realization must include the aspect of Sameer being always abused directly or indirectly by her family. It has nothing to do with her age. 16 is old enough. If not publicly, then she must Confess this to Sameer when she eventually feels soft towards him.

Sameer will feel betrayal and this time it's from Naina. Now Naina has to get Sameer's forgiveness. And even if Sameer will keep quiet next time Rakesh / Arjun blames him (for Naina's sake), She must show resolve to stand for the truth.

Or else there will be no end to Agarwal's (Rakesh, Arjun & Naina) so-called Truth and opportunistic/selfish attitude.

Edited by Dr.Don - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Res...brilliant perspective frm 👏sameers side👏
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Samaina_1990

Thanks for the reference Doc!! I'm currently developing a list of my least favorite characters...while Taiji n Rakesh keep fighting for the top slot, Arjun is slowly progressing towards it too...😡What the hell is wrong with this guy? I understand he hates Sameer for what he did to his sister. I even understand and even accept what he did to Sameer on the cricket pitch. I'm in favour of him not defending Sameer n blaming him for his injury...okay all for the anger for what he did to his sister...but I'm now waiting for the day when this bro sis duo realize that they were wrong n own upto their mistakes. I want Sameer to question Naina, feel betrayed by her. He started the bet, but as per Naina, she was madly in love with him. Yet she didn't trust him with the secret. At least in Mt. Abu she could have told him. Frankly saying if she could get Sameer punished, she could get her brother punished too. I would like to see her take the hard path here...apologize to Sameer, bear the brunt of his anger for a change. I guess Sameer would still keep the secret to himself m.that's when she would realize he is genuine n he does care for her. Probably that's when she would listen to her heart again...she too, like Sameer did this intentionally...no justification here. That's when she may realize what Sameer must be feeling- the need for prayashchit..being in his shoes, she would understand his situation better now...that may trigger the love birds to set their issues aside...

N I totally agree with you on the parasitic relationship...but I strongly feel Naina would get her sense of righteousness back after this incident n slowly she would learn to stand up for Sameer when he's right. I want her to tell her dad that she taught him willingly, she was wrong in hiding the truth...and maybe later on that she loves him n would be with him no matter what...
About Rakesh, well no comments now...he just stooped to the rock bottom with the 5 lac demand today...I have nothing to defend him by.
My most favorite character: Sameer! A young man with faults, but having the courage to set things right. I guess that's what a girl needs- a guy who'll always stand by you n help you become a better version of yourself. That's I guess what love is all about too😊


Hi, Sam perfectly explained.

I am surprised how the perception of users is changing towards the most loved character of Naina.

It's not that, her anger is not justified.

All her anger and frustration is justified against Sameer.

However, there is something amiss in the narrative that is making Naina appear hugely double standards when it comes to dealing with Sameer and hiding all the wrongdoings of her family against Sameer.

Hopefully, the story will progress to her realization after she softens to Sameer. Otherwise, it will make Naina appear very calculative even after Sameer and Naina reconcile.

As for Arjun - He seems to become the NEXT MR. RAKESH !


Edited by Dr.Don - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Amazing post 👏
Agree Naina is going far away from her limit...

The way she's accusing Sameer she had forgotten his all truthfulness and good things he had done for her and her family.

Naina being selfish more than Sameer. At a point of time we all feel Sameer was selfish but truth was Naina is selfish, whether it comes to friendship, love or toward her sister.

I am not liking this Naina now 😔
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anmol333

Amazing post 👏

Agree Naina is going far away from her limit...

The way she's accusing Sameer she had forgotten his all truthfulness and good things he had done for her and her family.

Naina being selfish more than Sameer. At a point of time we all feel Sameer was selfish but truth was Naina is selfish, whether it comes to friendship, love or toward her sister.

I am not liking this Naina now 😔


Hi Anmol,

Thanks for your views.

There seems to be a huge disparity in the narrative of Naina right now. I don't know if the writers are doing it with something planned or it is just a misdirection.

Not because Naina is angry on Sameer. She has all the rights to be so.

But, the convenience with which she seems to have forgotten many of Sameer's good deeds seems very baffling.

For example, Sameer being the sole reason to fix Puja's marriage. At that point, his motive was to use this help to get closer to Naina.

However, it was a direct help to Naina's family. (Naina seems to have forgotten about it)

Another instance, If Sameer wanted, he could have maligned Naina's Image in Mount Abu (after he was caught in her room). That would have been his ultimate revenge.

But Sameer took all the beatings and abuses from Rakesh to save her dignity.

Naina has forgotten all these very conveniently. I hope the narrative shows her realization and make her realize & feel her mistakes. Otherwise, the mutual confession will hold no substance.

It will just appear that Naina for showing some apparent love is going to take chunks away from Sameer.

Naina will appear hugely double standard or vampish with the subconscious attitude in regards to Sameer - Love me, Love my family, Do everything for them, Get beaten/insulted by them and Do not expect me to go against my SACCHA DUO of RAKESH & ARJUN (even if they are absolutely wrong) 😲

Lol ! Can you imagine the plight of Sameer as a Possible Future Son-in-Law ?
Edited by Dr.Don - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dr.Don


Hi Anmol,

Thanks for your views.

There seems to be a huge disparity in the narrative of Naina right now. I don't know if the writers are doing it with something planned or it is just a misdirection.

Not because Naina is angry on Sameer. She has all the rights to be so.

But, the convenience with which she seems to have forgotten many of Sameer's good deeds seems very baffling.

For example, Sameer being the sole reason to fix Puja's marriage. At that point, his motive was to use this help to get closer to Naina.

However, it was a direct help to Naina's family. (Naina seems to have forgotten about it)

Another instance, If Sameer wanted, he could have maligned Naina's Image in Mount Abu (after he was caught in her room). That would have been his ultimate revenge.

But Sameer took all the beatings and abuses from Rakesh to save her dignity.

Naina has forgotten all these very conveniently. I hope the narrative shows her realization and make her realize & feel her mistakes. Otherwise, the mutual confession will hold no substance.

It will just appear that Naina for showing some apparent love is going to take chunks away from Sameer.

Naina will appear hugely double standard or vampish with the subconscious attitude in regards to Sameer - Love me, Love my family, Do everything for them, Get beaten/insulted by them and Do not expect me to go against my SACCHA DUO of RAKESH & ARJUN 😲

Lol ! Can you imagine the plight of Sameer as a Possible Future Son-in-Law ?


Sameer love is more powerful and true than Naina
Naina had fallen by his look her love was at first sight on the other hand Sameer had fallen for her inner beauty, her character, after knowing her better.

Sameer is always being at number one everytime, everywhere.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hey doc,what an amazing post!👏 Actually the thing as this show started off with ONLY Female VO which obviously made everyone fall for Naina and her childlike innocence which was even seen in the narration as well, Sadiya is doing a commendable job,I must admit.👏 but with time, the female VO also started to give more insight into Sameer's character than her in tits and bits ..and now after Male VO has entered somehow the whole attention is shifted to Sameer. Another reason I believe is that it is Sameer who has first fallen for Naina, her inner soul and beauty. I loved how yesterday they showed him calling her behenji. It shows he still knows she is not the most beautiful girl in terms of fashion,trend or quirk but these things don't effect him anymore. all he cares is her inner innocence and beauty, her ability to love him with all her heart and soul, that's what matters to him now. What a huge change in him right? Who wont fall for him after this? Thing is the focus has always been on Sameer as a character, I don't know why nobody noticed it till now.

And now almost whole fandom is finding wrongs in Naina's character, one major reason is she has still not fallen for Sameer, the way Sameer has fallen for her. Let me remind you, Naina had a big fat crush on him. She never even wanted to know anything more about him and went on to prove he has shadiwala pyar towards her😆 Well, just like female VO,I will also laugh it off,as a girl I also know this feeling of first love or crush and how we tend to go blind for that one person in this world. but with time we learn a lot. Believe me, Naina too will learn a lot in the course of time. If I mention crush here,I don't mean it is not deep, she had that intense first crush or love which has caused her physcially, which turned her bitter ..but she doesn't know that this phase will also pass and when again love will knock(even if it is not Sameer), she will be even more happy and blessed and she will be grateful in life again. This experince comes with time and alot trials .. she too will experience it. Even I will say she is lucky as love will knock at her door in the face of Sameer only, not anyone else. She is way too lucky in this case.😳

Now, the thing u said about missing link,above in reply, for this I will attach here my reply from another post. This shows where Cvs has gone wrong little bit. And how they should have thought of tracks a bit differently which then would have played out very genuinely.

Honestly finally I am calmed down and realized that Naina is still true to the character.❤️ btw still I know what doesn't work for me,I won't put the blame on any character now.. but will simply say it is CV's wrong step to hide the paper stealing issue till now and adjusting it as a weird angle in their love story, which was totally not needed. Naina should have exposed it in Mt. Abu and it would have worked as another good push for Sameer to take the bet forward,though the feelings for her was growing in jet speed.. but then his mother's disapproval of acknowledging him as her kid would ultimately have broken him.Yet I believe,Sameer without realizing his love, still would have forgiven her and Arjun afterwards the bet revelation only. Somehow they missed this angle in total and now will add this stealing truth as only for Sameer-Arjun bonding. If it would have been revealed before then the realization on Sameer's part and his trials would have been much more real and genuine. And then the bonding with Arjun would have been even more genuine and would make sense. Now it is only for Naina, but then it would have worked as a great pitch for all 3 to unite and forgive each other. Anyways CVs missed on this whole possibility and chose to show unnecessary drama, maybe due to TRP. And I have also realized now this issue will never get the importance it had, only to bond SamAr in the end, that's it.


And btw don't worry with time, Agarwal family too will change thoda thoda and Naina will surely have that much needed change of heart which love brings after heartbreak and bitterness. 😳
Edited by ...Jes... - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: ...Jes...

Hey doc,what an amazing post!👏 Actually the thing as this show started off with ONLY Female VO which obviously made everyone fall for Naina and her childlike innocence which was even seen in the narration as well, Sadiya is doing a commendable job,I must admit.👏 but with time, the female VO also started to give more insight into Sameer's character than her in tits and bits ..and now after Male VO has entered somehow the whole attention is shifted to Sameer. Another reason I believe is that it is Sameer who has first fallen for Naina, her inner soul and beauty. I loved how yesterday they showed him calling her behenji. It shows he still knows she is not the most beautiful girl in terms of fashion,trend or quirk but these things don't effect him anymore. all he cares is her inner innocence and beauty, her ability to love him with all her heart and soul, that's what matters to him now. What a huge change in him right? Who wont fall for him after this? Thing is the focus has always been on Sameer as a character, I don't know why nobody noticed it till now.


And now almost whole fandom is finding wrongs in Naina's character, one major reason is she has still not fallen for Sameer, the way Sameer has fallen for her. Let me remind you, Naina had a big fat crush on him. She never even wanted to know anything more about him and went on to prove he has shadiwala pyar towards her😆 Well, just like female VO,I will also laugh it off,as a girl I also know this feeling of first love or crush and how we tend to go blind for that one person in this world. but with time we learn a lot. Believe me, Naina too will learn a lot in the course of time. If I mention crush here,I don't mean it is not deep, she had that intense first crush or love which has caused her physcially, which turned her bitter ..but she doesn't know that this phase will also pass and when again love will knock(even if it is not Sameer), she will be even more happy and blessed and she will be grateful in life again. This experince comes with time and alot trials .. she too will experience it. Even I will say she is lucky as love will knock at her door in the face of Sameer only, not anyone else. She is way too lucky in this case.😳

Now, the thing u said about missing link,above in reply, for this I will attach here my reply from another post. This shows where Cvs has gone wrong little bit. And how they should have thought of tracks a bit differently which then would have played out very genuinely.

Honestly finally I am calmed down and realized that Naina is still true to the character.❤️ btw still I know what doesn't work for me,I won't put the blame on any character now.. but will simply say it is CV's wrong step to hide the paper stealing issue till now and adjusting it as a weird angle in their love story, which was totally not needed. Naina should have exposed it in Mt. Abu and it would have worked as another good push for Sameer to take the bet forward,though the feelings for her was growing in jet speed.. but then his mother's disapproval of acknowledging him as her kid would ultimately have broken him.Yet I believe,Sameer without realizing his love, still would have forgiven her and Arjun afterwards the bet revelation only. Somehow they missed this angle in total and now will add this stealing truth as only for Sameer-Arjun bonding. If it would have been revealed before then the realization on Sameer's part and his trials would have been much more real and genuine. And then the bonding with Arjun would have been even more genuine and would make sense. Now it is only for Naina, but then it would have worked as a great pitch for all 3 to unite and forgive each other. Anyways CVs missed on this whole possibility and chose to show unnecessary drama, maybe due to TRP. And I have also realized now this issue will never get the importance it had, only to bond SamAr in the end, that's it.


And btw don't worry with time, Agarwal family too will change thoda thoda and Naina will surely have that much needed change of heart which love brings after heartbreak and bitterness. 😳


Hi Jes,

Very nicely explained.

I just hope the narrative of Naina's realization is powerful and elaborately explained just like it was for Sameer's realization.

I guess that must be the entire point of Sameer going to Naina's house. There is no other logic.

So, Naina's realization must be shown strongly. She should feel the double standards she has maintained once she sees Sameer going through a lot of a hard time (Insults and Abuses from Rakesh & Arjun) at her house.

There also has to be a conversation where there is a talk about paper stealing issue, and Sameer again reiterates that he did not steal the paper. (This should hit/pinch Naina & Arjun and at least shake their inner conscience)

The information must come out in open that it was Sameer who fixed the marriage alliance of Puja, which was broken before due to the Naina's family fault. This will help in some members warming up to Sameer rather than giving him cold vibes. What's the point in doing good and no one appreciates you. When the Agarwal clan (Rakesh, Arjun & to some extent Naina) is ready to torture Sameer, then the revelation of this good deed (fixing Pooja's marriage) will make situations in Sameer's favor.

This all should propel Naina to realize certain things and feel soft for Sameer and may be to take a stand for him when Arjun/Rakesh again starts abusing Sameer.

That, in the true sense, will be the backdrop of a mutual confession. Otherwise, it again becomes an evidence of Naina's current projection of Naina's Double Standards.

Finally: Writer's, please stop showing Rakesh always shouting at Nanaji. In reality, a person of Rakesh stature even if dared to open mouth in front of some influential like Nanaji (the influential and rich trustee Maheswari), he will be out of job the next day.

Edited by Dr.Don - 7 years ago

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