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Posted: 9 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: -K.13-

I took a journey to see some discussions on KKB b/c I know their track is of the FL being wrongfully accused by the ML at the prompting of the vamp, and not so shockingly the sound just like the ones here


With Pragya and Ishita both currently being wronged by the man in their lives...

With Abhi and Raman both in the wrong & very obviously so...

With Tannu and Shagun both getting screen space and track importance always...

With side characters being shoved to the side with little use despite being called "parallel leads" at one point...

With online people having discussion on if it's possible to still ship the lead pair when one is generally in the extreme wrong and so on

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So outside of acting - what difference is there in KKB & YHM?😆

Looks like this article hit the nail in the head with BT's same story - different faces approach to garnering TRPs


kkb and yhm have no difference according to me nw
in kkb shabbir and sriti also act well and their chemistry is also good( i like their chemistry) ,can't say the same abt the rest cast
bt both have the same story post leap
bt still kkb is better
as its ML has been behaving like this since the beginning of the show and had positive change after falling in love bt this raman looks too forced as he ws nt the same jerk in the beginning
and one thing i never understand is why do the heroes don't shut up the vamp when she is defaming the FL??????
yesterday, it happened in kkb and yhm both
I mean what are they promoting??????

so yup
story wahi,chehra naya
all shows show the same content
khair,I hope I gt out of the obsession of yhm
i wl gain my sanity back

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Posted: 9 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: DivanIshraru


kkb and yhm have no difference according to me nw
in kkb shabbir and sriti also act well and their chemistry is also good( i like their chemistry) ,can't say the same abt the rest cast
bt both have the same story post leap
bt still kkb is better
as its ML has been behaving like this since the beginning of the show and had positive change after falling in love bt this raman looks too forced as he ws nt the same jerk in the beginning
and one thing i never understand is why do the heroes don't shut up the vamp when she is defaming the FL??????
yesterday, it happened in kkb and yhm both
I mean what are they promoting??????

so yup
story wahi,chehra naya
all shows show the same content
khair,I hope I gt out of the obsession of yhm
i wl gain my sanity back


Ahh yes KKB had Abhi like this from day one and had Pragya losing her self respect much much sooner than here - so no major deviation at this point.

As for ML speaking up when vamp is rambling...after your exam, when you read the article - you'll see the writer's theory behind the vamp is to make her the opposite of the FL so it's an equal battle of the two women...and in such a battle if the ML speaks, it almost renders the woman vs. woman thing futile...remember Rinki Shaadi fiasco - the same set up happened there even during the parking lot confrontation - Raman didn't speak up at least a good 2 minutes of Shagun's public defamation of Ishita.

And they are promoting nothing but trying to garner TRPs and buzz, which we - TRP aunties & online viewers - give them willingly 😕
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Posted: 9 years ago
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So I dug out one of my first posts in this forum,.

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4070626

Read at your own peril..but it dates from exactly 2 yrs back and how much has changed..😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: bscorp13

So I dug out one of my first posts in this forum,.

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4070626

Read at your own peril..but it dates from exactly 2 yrs back and how much has changed..😆


ohh pb...the feels I got reading that!

It was so funny but those awards were amidst the first major bump in the road track - accident track...yet even then, as a viewer it was my favorite. Ishita and Raman both suffered - Ishita voiced her insecurities and stood for what she thought was right, Raman expressed his dilemma and came to a realization on his own...how beautiful yet emotionally touching and trying was that track 😳
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Posted: 9 years ago
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There is a consumer demand all across . Judith Mcnaught sells- where hero is tragic and that justifies all his abuse and shit, Don Draper is loved by women too . So many such cases all along. It's not just deso audience that laps it up but perhaps it is more visible because it's the only thing desi tv churns up these days. Sad state, it's like BT factory products with some differentiation here and there.

Difference between KKB and YHM is , latter had kids binding them which made it good for a good part as it needed to sell Ishita-Ruhi bond , beyond the normal love story. Rest, love story pattern is same.

Gaah so ruined, my attempts at hoping YHM delivers one arc where both form some balance just fails every single time. Ishita hurts me more because of her passive nature to this , only once have I seen a desi FL walking out for respect and actually spelling out the toxic nature of a relationship forcing both of them to understand each other and evolve if they want to be together. Thats how it should be.



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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: charminggenie

There is a consumer demand all across . Judith Mcnaught sells- where hero is tragic and that justifies all his abuse and shit, Don Draper is loved by women too . So many such cases all along. It's not just deso audience that laps it up but perhaps it is more visible because it's the only thing desi tv churns up these days. Sad state, it's like BT factory products with some differentiation here and there.


Difference between KKB and YHM is , latter had kids binding them which made it good for a good part as it needed to sell Ishita-Ruhi bond , beyond the normal love story. Rest, love story pattern is same.

Gaah so ruined, my attempts at hoping YHM delivers one arc where both form some balance just fails every single time. Ishita hurts me more because of her passive nature to this , only once have I seen a desi FL walking out for respect and actually spelling out the toxic nature of a relationship forcing both of them to understand each other and evolve if they want to be together. Thats how it should be.




Naw the biggest difference btwn KKB and YHM was YHM started out more balanced than any other desi soap. You had Raman learning lessons on his own accord, you had Ishita speaking out...that was balance. In KKB Abhi has always been the douche and Pragya went from professor to bechari in like 1-2 months of the show 😆

As for other countries - yes other countries have shows with male douches to be reformed by love but the bigger point is there is diversity so as a viewer you don't feel like all you have to watch is one genera. Like we have our version of hour long 5x/wk never ending soap-operas filled with twin brothers, lots of sex, and so on...but it also airs for like 3 hours a day on a handful of channels. The biggest different in the markets is diversity

And Ishita will walk out by this end of this track...just not for the reasons you would want.

Honestly if YHM was realistic - Ishita would've opened her mouth during 1st dafa ho jao...and at that point - start a discussion about respect in their relationship...but nope, it happened, she forgave, and they forgot. I know real couples where one partner has a giant temper problem - but the couple deals with it maturely...it's just in soaps, if they did that - then no drama scope 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: -K.13-


ohh pb...the feels I got reading that!

It was so funny but those awards were amidst the first major bump in the road track - accident track...yet even then, as a viewer it was my favorite. Ishita and Raman both suffered - Ishita voiced her insecurities and stood for what she thought was right, Raman expressed his dilemma and came to a realization on his own...how beautiful yet emotionally touching and trying was that track 😳

Krishy..but the accident track which feels like a gem now was also dramatic and dragging... and skewed ..making the ML do things out of character and without explanation ..making everyone else around him get b sympathy... and the forum bashing him saying unthinkable things, .it has an eerie similarity to the current trsck..don't believe me..

Here is one more nostalgia trip. ..

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4095170

See the similarities. ..shocking no?😆😆..I am going to stop now..else this will become a 'reading and professing my own past nonsensical writings' thread...not going to mess it anymore..keep the healthy discussions on..😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: bscorp13

Krishy..but the accident track which feels like a gem now was also dramatic and dragging... and skewed ..making the ML do things out of character and without explanation ..making everyone else around him get b sympathy... and the forum bashing him saying unthinkable things, .it has an eerie similarity to the current trsck..don't believe me..

Here is one more nostalgia trip. ..

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4095170

See the similarities. ..shocking no?😆😆..I am going to stop now..else this will become a 'reading and professing my own past nonsensical writings' thread...not going to mess it anymore..keep the healthy discussions on..😆


I used to have a memory of steel for YHM and actually remember your post...I started regularly silent creeping YHM IF during the accident track

I thought Raman's forced majboori was stupid and did hate seeing his emotions left to his own accord, but still could watch the show b/c he dug himself in that whole but for a very valid reason that real parents actually do (right or wrong). But he learned on his own - he made the right decision on his own.

I do remember all the Raman bashing during that track though...it pales in comparison to this 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I stop watching hindi soap since long time but I watch suddenly with my mother iss pyaar ko Kay naam do , than punarvivah as I thoughts some changes finally happen in indian drama now ideas etc than yhm but now yhm will be my last show diffently
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Thanks for sharing this Krishy and urghhh reading this gave me a headache as well as the urge to whack some sense into some nutballs 😆

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