How to Write Saas-Bahu Soaps: An article looking at the industry - Page 2

^^Long back Ishita was a dentist and Raman had Ashok as a rival..bas that be the work demarcation now it's all randomness.

Originally posted by: -K.13-

True but those shows run so far from "social messages" and social topics...the worst of SNS social issue wise is gopi vahu's daughter getting married her sister's FIL. But to my knowledge which given the 2000+ episode span, they've never dramatized rape like BT does and so on, etc.

And didn't you appreciate the SNS twist on the saas-bahu dynamic of Kekta's KSBKBT/KGGH/etc - instead of the oppressive Saas...Kokilaben Modi has been team Gopi from day 1...she's tried to get Gopi to modernize and stand up for herself many times in the past (b/c I've probably seen 45% of the show in small chunks) 😳

YHM has days of good writing but the overall story encourages this grotesque relationship dynamic that @charminggenie points out. I occasionally feel horrible for wanting my lollipops from IshRa if I turn on my brain at all so to enjoy the good writing in YHM - I have to force myself to ignore the reality of what they are showing, which at times is hard (especially on IF). 😆

Originally posted by: kras

Hello krishy

I didn't read entire article

But I want to say something

May be I m going off topic

But I have to say this

Females r mahan males r nadan anjaan

Males r shaitaan haiwaan and females r abla nari

Ye sab khatam ho jayengi

Jis din hum gender ko bhool kar ek human being ki tarah sochenge

His din hum dominance torture in sab bade bade words ke sahi mtlb aur inki depth samjhenge

Jis din hum male ki har baat ko unki ego and fwmale ki had baat ko unki self respect se compare karna chod denge

Jis din him ye samajh jayenge ki self respect and ego jaise words insaan ne banaye h but emotions insaan ke andar bhagwan ne diye h

That's why emotions hamesha self respect and ego se pehle aate h

Jis din hum self respect and ego ke beech fark karna seekh jayenge

Jis din hum rishto ke sahi mayne samajh jayenge

Jis din hum samne wale ki dard aur takleef ko male or female ki jagah human being bankar saochenge

Us din hum log sach mein women empowerment ka mtlb samjhenge

Aur us din hamari society mein equality aayegi

PS: I m sorry for my long rant

And off topic and boring lecture

Originally posted by: bscorp13

Krishy. .I get you. But nowadays every second show is sold as one with a social message..heck one shows advt recently said so in no lesser words..pure woWan empowerment. . And no I do not wish to name it..but i know where that show went...

And yes..yhm started with a Beautiful premise and thats what made audiences .. at least ones like me to start watching it...it grew into something different long long back. .

For surviving the inaninities of 2015 including the child swap and the extremely ridiculous bhooth track and it's aftermath..it's surprising ppl still expect a social message from the b show. .it's a reality that it's not just another regular daily.albeit with a lead pair that looks and acts better than most others.. and that and that alone should be out expectation..

Heck did u already forget the 2 min noodles type fast food leap episode..even after that are we waiting for any social message to be upheld?

No I no longer bother about the moral compass..heck all other shows top claim a lot of things they are not..here my only greed in continuing to watch crap dished out is for the leads chemistry... the at times superlative acting and those rare days of witty , good ol 11pm yhm writing.. which sadly is still a very rare entity on hindi telly and may all go extinct soon...🥱

My knowledge of sns is the few minutes I end up catching wacting for yhm and sadly it reinforces every steroetype of v what's wrong with Indian tv ..including the loud garish costumes and the screaming and face contorting in the name of acting😆.. and it paints a ab very funny and stereotypical picture..stuff I could only watch for unintentional laughs..no offense😆

Originally posted by: -K.13-

No I agree, Reetika

Gender lines are what got us in this place in society - where girls are scared to go outside, where guys are told not to cry...these gender stereotypes and beliefs that one gender is superior is what's lead us to these situations in society that still plague the world

Here is one of my favorite quotes about woman's empowerment...

We as humans seem to want to divide ourselves by race, religion, gender - and look what it does...perpetuates stereotypes, generates mass hate and bias, and so on. The world isn't an ideal place - look at what happened in Florida this week - but continuing to divide ourselves and play the blame game keeps us at status quo.

i m sorry krishy

Originally posted by: kras

i m sorry krishy

But I didn't understand yaar

U agree with me or not

Ideally there should be no boundaries but there exists an inequality and will continue to do so because power dynamics between Male and Female. Only way to neutralise this gender divide is to present a more cohesive unit arrangement where women are shown to be real, even if achiever , it has to have certain degree of realism. Like say , Ishita handling her workspace with managing home with help of Raman would have been ideal an year back..give her a work based conflict on the sides, let her emerge victor there . Or let the two women Shagun-Ishita be conflicted women who come together to some arrangement about the kids. Nature and Nurture should have gone side by side.

Originally posted by: -K.13-

I agree with you that divisions on the name of gender don't do any good for the world. We're already in a mess b/c of divisions on gender. Yes, there are inherent differences in men and women - the primary being the ability to carry a child...but at the end of the day we are human. Too long have we let men put women down and perpetuate gender binaries...but the solution to this entrenched societal issue isn't to show woman as better & to put men down b/c that will do nothing more than just flip the table.

really krishy sometimes I feel today females protest for women empowerment for their rights

Originally posted by: charminggenie

Ideally there should be no boundaries but there exists an inequality and will continue to do so because power dynamics between Male and Female. Only way to neutralise this gender divide is to present a more cohesive unit arrangement where women are shown to be real, even if achiever , it has to have certain degree of realism. Like say , Ishita handling her workspace with managing home with help of Raman would have been ideal an year back..give her a work based conflict on the sides, let her emerge victor there . Or let the two women Shagun-Ishita be conflicted women who come together to some arrangement about the kids. Nature and Nurture should have gone side by side.

But what we get is , Ishita suddenly handling business for Mani, Raman and what not which is such a wrong representation ..thats where the narrative goes wrong again.

For Raman, post leap was the ideal time, to be a single father who handles his kids and family well..thats how his guilt about Ishita should have materialized into. A wiser, sensible mature Raman with a control over his tongue heck that would have made his anger at Ishita more meaningful. But what we have here is basically a father who again because of his stupidity or life event, be walloping around while Nanny Shagun raised the kid and Adi just randomly evolved. It's not about Mrs Bhalla or Simi raising kids ..but Raman's role as a father.Such a stereotype ,but one which is a reality in many home.

^^ You know a decade or two, you would have found male audience too. Because shows were progressive , you had iconic male characters and it wasn't just ridiculous stereotyping but with the advent of cable tv , the pressure of pulling numbers and money meant , going for the largest target segment , women and the majority household. which is why template is set for a particular time slot and caters to them.