Thank You Star Plus & Balaji CVs For The Insenstivity and Lessons - Page 6

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Posted: 9 years ago
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What a wonderful post, Aani. I completely agree with everything you and everyone else have said here.

I am generally disgusted with the show, the writers, the producers, the channel and the TV industry, for time and again bringing us such regressive and repulsive shows, and abusing the privilege, resources, and power they have to reach over to the masses. Sadly, there seems to be no system or medium to filter or block such insensitive, insulting and abusive content, where the less aware audience is provided with appallingly false and misleading information about the legal, medical and other professions, not to mention human relationships and values..and they have the gall to sell it all in the name of #Hope and #Love.

They have brutally destroyed our beloved YHM from the beautiful and soulful show that it once was, a show which was relatable to many of us on different levels, all for money and business. What a shame!

@mafaz - Thank you for sharing your life story with us, I understand it takes a lot to put it all out here in writing. It was really touching to read through your life experiences. Your life is truly inspiring to many out there. I wish you all the very best.

Edited by -II- - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Aani...WORD!!!!!👍🏼👏👏
Everyone here as covered all aspect that there is nothing left for me to say... Why can't we tag SP, BT, Actors, SBS,Aaj tak news, Writers, Aamir Khan (Satyemeva Jayati), IBF India against this post? At least someone will take note of this if not all
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Posted: 9 years ago
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wonderful post Aani 👍🏼👏
i really hope they take note & make some changes 😡
as per the info I got ...right now the plan is to have Shagun surrogate ishra baby ..there is no twist in that its REAL 🤢🤔

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Sigh. It repulses me how they have become so insensitive to women in general.
I would have lived with their compromised love story but this destruction of a woman who had fertility issues and how that has been trivialized , humiliated is beyond pathetic.

I cannot believe the cvs are that dumb that they will mess up the basic trope- Ishita and her motherhood.


Raman- sad case, but his murder was done ages back now is just the final nail on his coffin. Impulse? Really how many times will that be exploited and in this situation? How can he be so insensitive, he has become worse than Shubhu's mom . I would be so disappointed by the whitewashing later on.
But really pathetic how they dump down Raman and they don't even realize that this time they have killed it entirely. This is a dead-end. Even if surrogacy doesn't happen, Raman has done the deed.
Raman as a character had potential but damn they wasted him beyond.

Love story- for me personally it wasn't ever there, they never could remove the 3rd person who kept on being from Ruhi, Mani, Shagun..so on and so forth.

From mocking the c-night, to ridiculing her miscarriage and grief and now this . Shame.



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Posted: 9 years ago
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yes..very needed post

N if they say they are just reflecting whats happening in the society will not be wrong..but i believe they should set right example...show what happens when you cross the line..the production house needs to take a strong stand..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Aani! Wow, what a post. My adoration for what this show was, I hope, doesn't need to be repeated. My very first Desi serial. In a language that I didn't understand... but one look at Ruhi and her bond with Ishita... how could I resist? And my Raavan Kumar, the original Raman...everything I love in a fictional hero- the rude , brash , misunderstood hero with a heart of gold who never fully looses his tarnished edges. I was hooked. And when I heard the infertility angle, there was no looking back. Despite the fact that I didn't know the language, that in order to understand i had to read WU and then watch- I did because it was more then worth it for me. And then came Mani, and for me- the beginning of the end.

With him came the kind of MUs and character ripping that the show has never been able to shake off. I love the nuances of the show, not just the relationships but the little moments, the underlying understanding and sensitivity with which the real moments , not those that were included for the benefit of a drama's sake were handled. The best thing about the show is always the real moments, those which were so prominent when they lived in the apartments and began to disappear rapidly post Mani in the new PH. Sensitivity, nuance, all of that went out the window in the name of the TRP race and the drama.

The last episode I watched and enjoyed regularly was, I think, their anniversary... and that I held on that long is a miracle. These days I tune in at times out of sheer boredom or coincidence and I simply do not recognize the show anymore. The characters are now caricatures and the tracks are beyond insulting.

Clearly the CVs have no care for basic research or sensitivity to the audience that helped them earn their place- their target is now different and honestly I'm okay with that. I choose not to watch a show where the CVs do not respect the audience nor care about the product- because if they did care, what we see on our screens would look dramatically different. We deserve better, and we know it... sadly, the CVs still think we don't . DIVAN can only take a show so far... and soon the CVs will learn that i think as a mass exodus seem to be eminent.

As for another show, I am going to join Shravu and Genie and say- KY2, season 1. A show which illustrates the development of of a relationship in every step. A hate story that turned into a fairy tale about beauty and her beast. A show or rather a couple where every breakup has a reason, where communication , hope and trust is not just a word said in passing. And most importantly for me, a show about respect. Trust is something that both shows discussed, that almost all shows discuss. But on KY2 and with MANAN, it's not a passing statement nor is it a blind faith- trust is established and even when it's tested, the base statement from them is always, 'I trust you and when you are ready you can tell me but know that I am always here, even if you are unable to tell me what your problem is you have my support.'

Respect- specifically from Manik to Nandini. He respects her, her thoughts, her decisions , her rights over her body and her limits. Not just that, but, for the most part the CVs, specially Richa Yaimini , respect their audience. The fanbase is female and they know it, they give us the promised fairytale but in it we get a heroine that is just as flawed as the hero, she never changes into a flawless being, her weakness are always there, they are just relieved by his strengths. They may just be kids compared to ISHRA, but MANAN sometimes seem far more mature, especially in their dialogues and understanding of each other and what it takes to create and maintain a lasting and equal partnership.

I could go on and on about them , but perhaps the best way I can explain its appeal is this- as far I can recall, the YHM fans have also had some sort of issue with Ekta and her characterization, and that dissatisfaction only continues to increase; KY2 fans on the other hands adore Richa Yamini, created multiple threads just to thank her, and unilaterally praise her from the start.

For me, with both MANAN and ISHRA the pull of the characters was beauty and the beast trope. But the fact is only MANAN maintained the complexity of the story and the depth of characterization even after they fall in love and show how two flawed people can not just fall in love but balance each other other and carry each other forward to create their own love story.

ISHRA started out the same, but then, somewhere along the way Ishita changed, and then Raman, and then it seemed Ruhi was forgotten and the ISHRARU I fell in love with was left behind in the embers of that first apartment fire and what emerged thereafter were caricatures that seemed to have forgotten who thry were overnight.

I cannot believe how far this show has fallen, but I guess that's what the TRP race, and the TRP audience does... and boy am I glad I am not that if this is what is on offer for me...but if ever the CVs want to attract to their original audience I have a suggestion- make everything that happened before Mani's entrance Raman's horrible dream, and put them back in their old home. It wouldn't be the craziest track this show has ever screened would it?

I remember Raman once said that Mani's was a Shani in his life, how true that was I never realized... until now.🤢

PS: KY2 season 1 maintained its spot in the top 10 TRPs while giving a meaningful love story- just saying...😛

Edited by RomComFan - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Ishus infertility is one of d main reason fr me to hooking to dis shw..nd later DivAn made me hook...d pain ishu went through fr dat wrd bhaanj nd dat realistic portrayal made me cry...Ishu delivering pooja nd dat moment wen she delivered dat kid.. i still remember i had watched dat epi so many times..I blamed god dat women deserves to b mother,why she is nt blessed wid dat Natures gift..Motherhood is one of d beautiful phases of a women's life..(im nt married yet)..i watched it fr nature vs nurture..Ishu proved dat she is d best mother nd we hav examples too..im ok if dey dnt shw ishu preggy...but as a viewer i want dat track to come..i wanna watch out hw dis track wil b presented..d shw dwnfall started wid mani entry..but fr dis ishu pregnancy track nd fr DivAn i watched wateva shit dey throwed under our throats..butchering of characters beyond repair..making FL devi during sautan track..we viewers vented out but fr our dissappointed dey gave a long script to ishu justifying wat she is doing fr raman..(remember ishu telling her amma after ishra pooja)..nd d news of leap broke out..my dreams shattered..trending starts..nd i dnt knw hw to tweet but retweeted some..nd i called SP nd asked to stop dis leap..nd later i stopped trending nd d reason is..den along wid dis shw..i watch ky2..just bfr d trending..in ky2 der is a track whr we r unable to relate to FL..nd dey didn't butcher but der d CH is nt der writer took a break nd d channel hired new CH, technical team nd dey telecasted d epis without proper editing..disconnectn wid epis nd chars..just fr 2 epis..nd fans vented out our frustration..coz d shw never made dat mistake..after 250 epis d chars never compromised..nly shw whr a couple evolved either individually or as a unit..nd dat FL is always remains d best FL ever on ITV coz she has voice..dey solve der problms together..actually dey built der relationship wid strong foundations..nd a couple whr millions of fans lived der lovestry..reminsicing der names even after 50 yrs make us smile nd cry nd defo a journey to cherish...u r unable to take one wrong epi coz dat shw ruined viewers wid perfection nd den d old writer of d shw came bac nd publicly apologized nd taken our considerations...he earned respect nd as he promised dey made d taken our views nd ctrld d damage..nd once again earned our trust...He uses d wrd trust..nd d shw main focus is trust..dey gave a new meaning to trust nd dey gave a beautiful one week whr dey made us forgotten what d new writers done...Then honestly i stopped retweeting aani..coz d othr shw respected us...dey respected d females...my love fr dat shw nd makers taken a new turn..dat reply i didn't get frm BT..even after such trending..dey post poned leap but not cancelled..den as a customer im done wid dis product nd i decided to not to buy dat product..i stopped trending coz dey never respected der viewers...i wil watch nd respect a shw which respect us..surrogacy is d last nail in d coffin..nw a days common problem fr most of women is thyroid nd pcod..many women having des r nt able to conceive..multiple miscarriages wil happen..my relative..she become pregnant after 13yrs of der marriage..during dis she went through multiple miscarriages nd depression nd wat not nd deirs is lov marriage..nd families still against it..but her husbands love nd der understanding nd der hope never died nd after 13yrs of marriage she is blessed wid a baby girl..dat baby is 2yrs nw...nd she is nw again carrying..This is love nd understanding d couple must have..surrogacy is not d hope d channel trying to send..my fear confirmed wen dey talked abt baby talks nd consulted doc without sex...nd i taken a break frm dis shw..as a FL i felt very insulted..intimacy btwn dem is never fr der own desires..always hav to brought baby talks..after 2yrs of der marriage dey never communicated..wrkd on der marriage..never openly talked abt her fertility issues...The shw base premise is nature vs nurture nd dey made won d nature again..@genie..der first break up made d FL raised trust issues nd i love dat 87epi punch..whr she questioned him whr is she in his priority..she knws he loves his frnds more dan nyone..nd she falls fr him seeing his love fr dem..but she voiced out dat she is nt a toy to pass on nd der is a reason y she is nt willing to come back to him..her fears,if d same problm arises nd he has to choose btw his frns nd her..he wil choose his frnds..dat fear she wanna clear which makes her more human nd real..nd nxt der 2nd breakup...dat judai 151epi...trust is der..but he is hurt coz she didn't believed in him nd der relationship dat she manipulated by 3rd person..gawd des two 99% communicate..love she never gives upon nd finds hope..dey both never give upon each..They lived a lifetime love..der little things make dem unique nd pure..Blissful souls dey r.. .@anu..very well said..nd im happy dat u wrote on dis forum aftr a long break..@aani..i alwways love ur analysis nd dey made a joke abt Females..but dey wint respect ud coz at d end of d day trps nly matters to dem..
Edited by manan09 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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great post dear but in cruel bastarts ko kuch samaj aaye tab na😡
Iam just sharing my mom(trp viewer's) views regarding all this..

My mom usually wont watch this show as she watches telugu show(we are southies) at that slot..I just explained her what happened nd this is all what she says..oh yes!!My mom is a graduate but yet is so much Indian I mean she is having modern thoughts but not completely


"Chiii this is just so ugly!!How can he let his ex involve in their life after what she has done?I would never see my ex's face again if he/she ditches me that badly.I don't know why he has to do anything with her(shagun) even if she changes for good!!Since she has left his life he shouldn't be bothered if she has changed for real, good for her!!If she hasn't changed ,again good for her why does he want to speak with her at first place? "

Is all she said when she just caught a glimpse of their conversation.She didn't know abt cold storage scene then...and now


"Raman really loves her??In the first place do Raman trust ishita?Does he know the meaning of trust?tell me does he even respect their relation?you see in every relation TRUST is very imp factor..If no trust then it shakes the foundation of very strong relationship..If there is trust and respect u'll not hide anything from ur partner..I always think ill not tell something or other to your dad but at the end I'll spill all the beans coz I can never hide a slightest matter from ur dad that's how our relation Is and so we are together..


Ye toh serial hai sab karthe hai phir ek saath rehte hai..If we see in real sense ishita should never forgive him infact leave him forever he don't deserve her in her life..Raman pyar kartha hai use toh nahi chupata kuch bhi.."I love u" hazar baar kehne se pyar nahi hota also If u think iam doing out of love doesn't justify ur action..If u love someone spcly ur wife jatao..not like raman did!!use ehsaas dilao ki u are really loving her,she is really ur soul mate,very imp ih his life..hiding only ruins and what raman did is not forgivable!!Not justified!! If for ex ur dad hides even a small thing I feel "am I not imp in his life?dont he care for me anymore?" bechari ishita toot jayegi"


Teek hai ishita nahi maani surrogacy ke liye lado use haq se manao use..even if u want to go against her wish(as in surrogacy) go with it but let her know that too!!(she basically meant that surrogacy ke liyeishu against thi and raman wants to go with it teek hai he would have proceeded by letting her know that he'll still do it with or w/o her consent..)atleast ishita will know that raman is doing it for her and he loves her so much!!atleast mu toh nahi hogi between them.."raman apni haton se khud ki zindagi ka gala ghot raha hai"(this like of my mom made me😭)

"waise toh wife's consent bhi imp hai after all wo bhi ek insaan hai she have the right to take decisions in her life..she leaves her parents home trusting that her husband will never let her alone hide karne se lonely feel hi hoti hai..even if family support ishita she still be left broken from inside coz jitni khareeb hum husband ke hothe hai utna kisi ke nahi hote..ha inlaws may love her both still having or not having raman with her makes difference!! "

"shagun surrogate banne se accha ek bacche ko adopt hi kar lete"

She literally said"raman ek bewakoof andha aadmi hai kuch nai dekh pa raha hai once he realizes what he has done he'll be left with no one in his life"

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hi, i am new to this Forum and to TV world. After 17yrs, this is my 1st TV show(YES, never ever watched any serial before. I use to watch National Geo channel or Sports) and now i hate myself for wasting my time to watch TV serial like YHM. I watch TV for relaxation, but this show became like a torcher for me now. So many of my friends warned me not to waste my time watching EK show, i ignored them as i fell in love with ISHRARU. now i realize my mistake, but too late.
I was watching each episode 10x until Oct'14, my day starts and ends with YHM, but now i dont even feel like reading WU. Today's episode was🤬🤬

I want to ask a question to this Forum : In India, there are so many MAHILA MANDAL people who go against the bad movies (showing bad about ladies etc), to ban them, then why dont they do that to TV shows tooo😭😡. Can't they see how it will impact the audience.

Its waste of time to think about it or watch .

Mamata
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Originally posted by: mafaz29

Thnk u for making ths post. i totally agreed with you. it strucks me to the core that they butchered the show with no mercy. 😭😭💔 i just want to share my own experience. it hurts to see your condition being done as a mockery.😭

I really don't know what to say anymore.. I wish all of you survive in future. As a woman and doctor, i felt betrayed. For your kind information i have severe endometriosis problem. i was diagnosed early in Malaysia . You know what, endometriosis can cause fertility problem. Then i move to UK following my family, there i finish my school, i got determined to pursue my career as doctor because i know god gave me this disease not only for me to suffer, but actually to help people and that's the reason i went for medicine. i graduated and work as doctor. Surrounded by people with #hopeneverdies i try to overcome the pain & struggle dealing with my own disease & also help others. I DO SURVIVE, then there you go, my parents pop up the marriage question, i just said if god create someone for me in this world, and he meant for me the time will come. There he came in my life, my man whom i thought to be my real life prince charming, everything seems perfect but God know the best for you, the day i told him that i'm having fertility problem, he seems to accept it well, i trust him, a fairytale story started to be built up. He is a doctor and me also. I thought he understood well my problem but slowly, he doubt his decision to start a life with me. Perhaps he think he deserved better, i'm no one to blame that, if i want to be treated fairly, why he can't? So i said if you feel you are not happy with me, please find another people who can make you really happy, don't suffer for the rest of your life just out of sympathy, i accept what god had made me, free yourself from me. THE END, that's how i end my own fairytale, if we can't give happiness to others, don't let them suffer. at least help others to bring happiness to your love one. That's the way i spread the love. I indeed suffer from the pain, my parents and family. i almost gave up on my life, but one day i realized, my patient is my wake up call. She did suffer the same thing with me, but her life is far worst, she is depressed, her husband cheated on her because she can't bear the child. May god bless her soul. i tried to help her with the best, but on 29 november, she took her own life. the day i lost my patient which i handled with care.
WHO AM I TO BLAME THE GOD , HER HUSBAND, SOCIETY OR MYSELF THAT SHE CHOSE TO END HER JOURNEY?! THE PAIN DOUBLED FOR ME BECAUSE I KNOW SHE CAN BE SAVED, SHE SUFFERED THE SAME THING WITH ME, GOD KNOW BETTER DEAR, THAT'S WHAT MY MOM SAID,BUT FOR ME NO, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, HOW MANY LIFE GONNA BE KILLED MORE JUST BECAUSE OF STIGMA OF BELOVED ONE & SOCIETY?! THEN I STARTED TO JOIN HANDS DOING RESEARCH PROVIDING MORE FACILITIES TO TREAT PEOPLE WITH FERTILITY PROBLEM. MAKE IT INTO BRAIN CVS, SURROGACY IS THE LAST LAST OPTION. IN CERTAIN RELIGIONS, THEY DID NOT ALLOWED IT. THAT'S WHAT MAKE US TO PUT IT AS LAST LAST LAST OPTION WITH OTHER ETHICS AND MORALE INVOLVED. I TRIED MY BEST TO PROVIDE THE BEST FOR MY PATIENT BECAUSE I WANT THEM TO FEEL THE EXPERIENCE OF MOTHERHOOD EVENTHOUGH MYSELF CAN'T FOREVER SINCE I LOST THE ABILITY FOR IT ON A DAY I ALMOST LOST MY LIFE.
I'M VERY HAPPY SEEING THE HAPPY FACES OF PARENTS TO BE, THEIR EXCITEMENT, HAPPINESS. THAT'S WHAT I CAN AT LEAST GIVE THEM. I TRY NOT TO LOST ANOTHER INNOCENT LIVES ANYMORE. TO YOU GOD I SWEAR HELP ME SAVE LIVES

ALONG WITH THIS MY OWN SISTER IN LAW WHICH I DO ADORE HER AS MY OWN SISTER SUFFER FERTILITY PROBLEM. THERE COMES MY FEAR, AM I GOING TO HAVE THE SAME SITUATION AGAIN? BUT NOW IT IS MY OWN FAMILY. WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO? I BRAVED MY HEART, TALK TO HER AS A SISTER NOT A DOCTOR. SHE POUR OUT EVERYTHING TO ME, SHE IS LUCKY,SHE GOT THE WHOLE SUPPORT TO ENDURE IT & NOW SHE BLESSED WITH HER 2 BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTERS, CARRIED BY HER OWN WOMB.

WHAT I WANT TO VENT HERE IS, IT HURTS TO SEE SOME PEOPLE MAKE A MOCK OUT OF THIS SENSITIVE ISSUE. DO RESPECT US WHO SUFFERED A LOT. I ALMOST LOST MY LIFE DUE TO THIS ISSUE. HELP ME SPREADING THE REAL FACTS TO THE WORLD THAT INFERTILITY CAN BE TREATED EVENTHOUGH IT TAKES TIME.

IT IS ABSURD TO SAY EVERYTIME INFERTILITY ISSUE STRUCK, SURROGACY IS THE ANSWER. HOW MANY WOMEN WILL BE LEFT HEARTBROKEN THEN. WHERE IS THE FAIRNESS IN TREATING THE WOMEN HERE? TRUST ME IT HURTS TO THE CORE TO BE LABELLED AS INFERTILE. YOU CAN ENJOY OTHERS HAVING GOOD FAMILY TIME BUT YOU ARE ALONE SOUL WANDERING IN THE WORLD TRYING TO SORT OUT YOUR MESSY LIFE.

TRY TO HELP ME SENDING RIGHT MESSAGE VIA THE SHOW, AT LEAST THEIR #HOPENEVERDIES. THEY HAVE CHANCE TO BE PREGNANT AND THEY DESERVE IT

you yourself is a big lesson nd inspiration for many..
Thank you very much for sharing your life experience wid us... I know the pain and stigma one has go through due to such issue and aftermath of the society's reaction to this. this is somewhat way more agonizing than death.. but then you chose to stay strong and not to let you and others from your surrounding break due to just a medical issue. trust me your aphorism literally amazed me to d core.. your are truly inspiring for them who are bearing wid this pain🤗

I just hope many woman going through such issue get to see your post and get inspired and take the path which you've taken!! 😊


@Aani coming to this shw's current absurdity a show which started as not just a daily drama to provide tons of silly nd irrational drama doses for the trp audience only but it always maintained a uniqueness from day one be it with as a saga of a strong infertile woman who was cheated by her long term BF becaz of her medical problem(which is very much real), a husband who was d victim of infidelity becaz of hif wife's worldly desire for affluence, a child's starvation for the love of her parents who later find her true love and care in the form of her MOTHER thus they mother-daughter due become complete, a man who lost his faith in the term LOVE found his way back to LOVE and TRUST thus get his LIFE back in the truest sense and learn to Love again... all these had a real touch that's why we stuck to this show this long! but then they had to came up with such filthy and absurd track of Surrogacy in the name of a Husband's desperation to give her Wife the Ultimate happiness of Life no matter in what way it is given, no matter if you are betraying your wife instead, no matter if you are taking the the most unethical way to achieve your goal to have a Baby with your wife to keep the relationship going! Even if Your Wife doesn't agree for the path you do it without her consent breaking her trust, violating the basic right of a Wife, a mother and most importantly a WOMAN! you throw your decision at the back, front and Center of this relationship!!

Many Women got attached to this show becaz they cud connect themselves with ISHITA! They get along with the notion of Nature vs Nurture so enthusiastically! the brilliant thoughts that YOU CAN BE A MOTHER WITHOUT HAVING IT FROM OWN WOMB, A LOVER AND WIFE WHO IS THOROUGHLY DESIRED BY HER HUSBAND DESPITE HAVING FERTILITY ISSUE, A HUSBAND WHO FIND HIS SOUL MATE ULTIMATELY GIVEN IN THE SECOND CHANCE were enacted beautifully therefore we were proud audience unless they came up with such disgusting Surrogacy Track! nd to add fuel they had to bring the EX to becum the Surrogate!
I know this! Is it the HOPE they want us to keep from this Show😕 the big question is WHY SURROGACY??????????? without even trying harder to find out better treatment option which are available now which can make a couple actually pregnant!! why renting a god dammit third class WOMB of the EX which cause the break of marriage in REAL WORLD! no woman can stand such a ridiculous step no even in their wildest dream!

having said that they have butchered ML's character beyond Repair which can no way be the same again and I know someday they will damage FL's character beyond redemption too to keep the balance, I have no hope left from this show still if they really want to repent their deed and sense they should be a lil sensible towards this society I wish they remain ISHITA's character intact in what way possible, I just hope they show ISHITA doesn't forgive RAMAN ever and stand for her self respect in the future that's what should happen in real life albeit the fact I am very much ISHRA fan🤢
sorry if I sound mean but I am thoroughly broken by his betrayal thanks to CVS.
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