Thank You Star Plus & Balaji CVs For The Insenstivity and Lessons - Page 4

Originally posted by: mafaz29

hello there, thank you for reading it,😊 i felt lucky too having them as my patients. without patients there is no doctor.

Originally posted by: -K.13-

If you could PM me a list of good Indian shows - I will be grateful!😳

Originally posted by: mafaz29

Thnk u for making ths post. i totally agreed with you. it strucks me to the core that they butchered the show with no mercy. 😭😭💔 i just want to share my own experience. it hurts to see your condition being done as a mockery.😭

I really don't know what to say anymore.. I wish all of you survive in future. As a woman and doctor, i felt betrayed. For your kind information i have severe endometriosis problem. i was diagnosed early in Malaysia . You know what, endometriosis can cause fertility problem. Then i move to UK following my family, there i finish my school, i got determined to pursue my career as doctor because i know god gave me this disease not only for me to suffer, but actually to help people and that's the reason i went for medicine. i graduated and work as doctor. Surrounded by people with #hopeneverdies i try to overcome the pain & struggle dealing with my own disease & also help others. I DO SURVIVE, then there you go, my parents pop up the marriage question, i just said if god create someone for me in this world, and he meant for me the time will come. There he came in my life, my man whom i thought to be my real life prince charming, everything seems perfect but God know the best for you, the day i told him that i'm having fertility problem, he seems to accept it well, i trust him, a fairytale story started to be built up. He is a doctor and me also. I thought he understood well my problem but slowly, he doubt his decision to start a life with me. Perhaps he think he deserved better, i'm no one to blame that, if i want to be treated fairly, why he can't? So i said if you feel you are not happy with me, please find another people who can make you really happy, don't suffer for the rest of your life just out of sympathy, i accept what god had made me, free yourself from me. THE END, that's how i end my own fairytale, if we can't give happiness to others, don't let them suffer. at least help others to bring happiness to your love one. That's the way i spread the love. I indeed suffer from the pain, my parents and family. i almost gave up on my life, but one day i realized, my patient is my wake up call. She did suffer the same thing with me, but her life is far worst, she is depressed, her husband cheated on her because she can't bear the child. May god bless her soul. i tried to help her with the best, but on 29 november, she took her own life. the day i lost my patient which i handled with care.

WHO AM I TO BLAME THE GOD , HER HUSBAND, SOCIETY OR MYSELF THAT SHE CHOSE TO END HER JOURNEY?! THE PAIN DOUBLED FOR ME BECAUSE I KNOW SHE CAN BE SAVED, SHE SUFFERED THE SAME THING WITH ME, GOD KNOW BETTER DEAR, THAT'S WHAT MY MOM SAID,BUT FOR ME NO, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, HOW MANY LIFE GONNA BE KILLED MORE JUST BECAUSE OF STIGMA OF BELOVED ONE & SOCIETY?! THEN I STARTED TO JOIN HANDS DOING RESEARCH PROVIDING MORE FACILITIES TO TREAT PEOPLE WITH FERTILITY PROBLEM. MAKE IT INTO BRAIN CVS, SURROGACY IS THE LAST LAST OPTION. IN CERTAIN RELIGIONS, THEY DID NOT ALLOWED IT. THAT'S WHAT MAKE US TO PUT IT AS LAST LAST LAST OPTION WITH OTHER ETHICS AND MORALE INVOLVED. I TRIED MY BEST TO PROVIDE THE BEST FOR MY PATIENT BECAUSE I WANT THEM TO FEEL THE EXPERIENCE OF MOTHERHOOD EVENTHOUGH MYSELF CAN'T FOREVER SINCE I LOST THE ABILITY FOR IT ON A DAY I ALMOST LOST MY LIFE.

I'M VERY HAPPY SEEING THE HAPPY FACES OF PARENTS TO BE, THEIR EXCITEMENT, HAPPINESS. THAT'S WHAT I CAN AT LEAST GIVE THEM. I TRY NOT TO LOST ANOTHER INNOCENT LIVES ANYMORE. TO YOU GOD I SWEAR HELP ME SAVE LIVES

ALONG WITH THIS MY OWN SISTER IN LAW WHICH I DO ADORE HER AS MY OWN SISTER SUFFER FERTILITY PROBLEM. THERE COMES MY FEAR, AM I GOING TO HAVE THE SAME SITUATION AGAIN? BUT NOW IT IS MY OWN FAMILY. WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO? I BRAVED MY HEART, TALK TO HER AS A SISTER NOT A DOCTOR. SHE POUR OUT EVERYTHING TO ME, SHE IS LUCKY,SHE GOT THE WHOLE SUPPORT TO ENDURE IT & NOW SHE BLESSED WITH HER 2 BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTERS, CARRIED BY HER OWN WOMB.

WHAT I WANT TO VENT HERE IS, IT HURTS TO SEE SOME PEOPLE MAKE A MOCK OUT OF THIS SENSITIVE ISSUE. DO RESPECT US WHO SUFFERED A LOT. I ALMOST LOST MY LIFE DUE TO THIS ISSUE. HELP ME SPREADING THE REAL FACTS TO THE WORLD THAT INFERTILITY CAN BE TREATED EVENTHOUGH IT TAKES TIME.

IT IS ABSURD TO SAY EVERYTIME INFERTILITY ISSUE STRUCK, SURROGACY IS THE ANSWER. HOW MANY WOMEN WILL BE LEFT HEARTBROKEN THEN. WHERE IS THE FAIRNESS IN TREATING THE WOMEN HERE? TRUST ME IT HURTS TO THE CORE TO BE LABELLED AS INFERTILE. YOU CAN ENJOY OTHERS HAVING GOOD FAMILY TIME BUT YOU ARE ALONE SOUL WANDERING IN THE WORLD TRYING TO SORT OUT YOUR MESSY LIFE.

TRY TO HELP ME SENDING RIGHT MESSAGE VIA THE SHOW, AT LEAST THEIR #HOPENEVERDIES. THEY HAVE CHANCE TO BE PREGNANT AND THEY DESERVE IT

Originally posted by: -Gan-

Word Aani! Nothing to add as you've spelled out everything.

These morons will however not get it .. As to them all that matters is TRP .. As that spells ad revenue. And with SP losing to Colors their #1GEC position anything goes to bring them up back to the game. Hence the Hail Mary pass of the surrogate track + leap that were put on hold because of the viewer backlash last time the spoiler hit the wires. Now they don't care !

And BT ... This is their signature storytelling apparently ( pardon my ignorance as this is my 1st show) ... They build everything up only to dramatically butcher it and to them anything from marital rape to secret surrogacy is right up their alley of 'creativity' . I feel somehow the audience is to be blamed... As still they get ppl to watch them and turn them as the top production house. And a country where censorship on big screen is so stringent... Apparently small screen get bypass about anything from physical abuse to unethical behavior from professionals onscreen which send wrong messages to the semi-educated to uneducated viewers. It's sad but brutal truth.. BT has made money by bringing down the standard of Indian television which one time had telecast daily dramas like Humlog, Buniyaad..Tamas .

Originally posted by: -K.13-

I've gone on about the same thing 3x now.

This is cruelty at it's finest. It's borderline abusive to viewers.

Pardon my laziness - but here's a brief my reason for disgust, which mirrors yours.

This show makes me hurt for the real couples.

Think of the couples who spend $100000 of dollars on TREATMENTS (not tests) to get pregnant.

Think of the women who suffer multiple miscarriages due to reproductive tract issues. Think of the women who commit suicide or suffer severe depression because of the title "baanj."

Think of the men who have to silently watch their wives go through painful treatments to have a child. Think of the men who have to comfort their wives, while coping with their own grief, should the woman have a miscarriage.

Infertility & its treatments challenge a couple to the core. Couples divorce or become stronger. But this is a journey of a couple who wants to have a child despite medical conditions.

So many treatments are available - from IVF to surrogacy. But what has YHM done but mock it all? The people involved with this show may not have seen this in real life but I have worked with many women in this situation. This situation is soul piercing for couples.

I challenge the people involved with this show to talk to a couple in this situation. Try to actually empathize. Your heart will break when you realize infertility strips a man or woman of their sense of personhood. Your heart will soar when you realize that pain and money spent is nothing in comparison to the child that can be born thanks to medical treatment, but then your heart will shatter into pieces when despite everything a couple cannot have a biologic child. Even then though - there is hope...hope in the form of a surrogate or adopted child.

The recent handling of infertility, surrogacy, & the medical profession yet again sheds a horrible light on the entire process.

YHM is not handing out hope to the women who watched this show because they were in Ishita's place. it's also not handing out handing out realism about the struggles an infertile couples face when trying getting pregnant.

Everything appears to be just for TRPs and in the process it looks like people involved have forgotten empathy towards fellow humans. I understand drama is needed for shows because I've watched tons of desi shows. But for a topic that was a tenant of the show (along with infidelity, second chances, and nature vs nurture)...it's sad to see it turned into a sick joke.

Link to file a complaint:

http://www.ibfindia.com/complaint-form

Originally posted by: s_kavya

Good... BANG ON post Aani ...

But Unfortunately it will NOT make any difference as this ppl (SP and Balaji TF) don't think or care about.. Morales.. ethics ... or there duty towards society... they don't care if they giving wrong message.. they don't care about insensitivity ... they don't care about they making mockery of medical profession... Making mockery out of women infertility issue... and also making joke out of sensitive issue like surrogacy.. all they care is about business.. trps.. Money its there goal and in front of this goal they don't see anything and don't care about anything...

SP for business.. trps and to make there channel sequre in Trp.. Grp will go to any extent it doesn't matter for them its right or wrong.. and for PH well i don't know if i should say this or not but can't stop myself by saing this it seems a clear case of favoritism because rather than that i don't see why shagun's character getting so much importance... NO one interested to see if she is grey.. white.. black.. positive.. negative but CV 's again and again force her in story.. try to fit her each and everywhere even if it NOT require... Now shagun is center of this show everything revolves around her... and ppl have to tolerate her but alas ..they have destroyed one of the strongest male character to glorify shagun's character... CV 's ready to sacrifice most popular and loving couple on Indian tv for the sake of shagun's character as NO ishra fan want shagun anywhere near ishra but CV 's want that and they will do what they want.. and we have only option left take the remote and change the channel .. that's it NO use of our ranting as its going to be in deaf ears..

Note - NO offense to AH whatever i said its strictly about shagun's character..

Originally posted by: Wings-of-Fire

Well said, Aani. 👏 You've summated the medical facts and social repressiveness
YHM is preaching so I won't go there. I'd rather talk about my experience as a viewer.

I have never felt more insulted by fiction. I never knew fiction could insult this much.

I don't really understand romantic love because it doesn't follow any logic. So, please if any of you can help me understand this: how can someone who loves you, someone who took the oath to respect you, cherish you and protect you, insult you and cheat you in the harshest way possible? How can the person who claimed he wouldn't be able to live without you, who thought you'd get hurt by knowing the incident of him being trapped in with his ex break you beyond repair? Because had Raman cheated on Ishita with Shagun, had this unborn child been a love child of Raman and Shagun, that'd have been more merciful. By sleeping with Shagun Raman would have broken the marital vows he'd taken with Ishita and insulted her love but by making Shagun a surrogate for their baby without her knowledge he's violating her human rights, he's insulting her existence, he's insulting her place and necessity in his and his family's life, he's braking every promise that he's ever made, he's making a spectacle out of all these insults and wounds he's inflicting upon her and he's branding her with a scar for life time which would be her flesh and blood. Raman is doing all these in the name of love! *sigh*

There's a beautiful song in the play 'Wicked' called 'Defying Gravity' sung by very talented, Idina Menzel, the song has a few lines that sums up my feelings about love after Raman's actions:

Well, if that's love
It comes at much too high a cost!
I'd sooner buy
Defying gravity


Lessons I learned from YHM:

1. Do not fall in love.
2. If you fall in love or get married, do not stay faithful. Be the heart breaker otherwise your heart will be broken.
3. Do not marry someone with a past.
4. Before you get married, announce that you don't wanna have kids. If the guy stays, marry him only then.
5. If you have trouble getting pregnant, divorce immediately.
6. Do not under any circumstances trust a doctor.
7. Read before singing a document specially if your spouse is taking the sign.
8. Do not watch another Ekta Kapoor show or Hindi show for that matters even if J.K. Rowling is writing, Peter Jackson is directing and Tom Hanks is acting!


I'm letting YHM go and I do not wish for the trps to tank because I know it will, sooner or later. I feel sorry that the makers thought nepotism was worth the destruction of this once so very beautiful show. I hope someday they learn from their mistakes.

Originally posted by: linga

Heights of insensitivity is that the women who never missed all the chances of calling ishita as "baanj", is the one who is going to bear the child.. What could be more insulting than this?

Originally posted by: mayasundar

Hi Aani,

I have nothing to add to what you said.

The show started with how a woman who cannot conceive can have a man love her for herself and feel like a complete woman are now showing the same man because of his love for her got so blindsides that he is not thinking he is hurting her in the cruelest way by making his ex-wife who betrayed him become a surrogate mother without his wife consent.

What are they trying to say they need a baby to make marriage work otherwise the marriage would break that they showed it in the first few episodes itself with Subbu saying the exact same things so what the was beautiful journery of IshRa for two years if they were going to go through this route all along.

I am not from medical profession but I am appalled at the way they are handling the situation a doctor who knows the patient has not given the consent willingly but goes ahead with the procedure shares her information with her husbands ex-wife he has no moral consequence and he is not taking his doctor oath seriously too that he would keep patient information confidential and her husband acting like he from very old century what he passes is the law if he gives her a baby then she has to raise it no question asked

Is this there new slogan promotion # Hope never dies husband can act accordingly and wife cannot contest to it.

For me there new slogan should be # Hope already dead