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Posted: 10 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: -IshRaDivAn-

Lovely Collage G! 😳

And bang on post..
I didn't know what was happening in the episode yesterday and same goes for today.😳
i had no clue what so ever as to what was happening today!
Like i said in the LU. One of the episode we got hard core romance. The second half came along as if the first half never happened.
Today's episode, it came along as if yesterday never happened. :( What I fail to understand is, TILL HOW LONG.?
How long are they going to show the couple making it all up with silly banters.? There has to be a limit somewhere. Will they ever feel the need to talk about things.?

Whatever said and done, it was big. Putting aside the fact that, it was or may be a plan but still it was out of line. And exactly, as expected..they are back to normal as if nothing happened.

I usually don't complain a lot about the follow up scenes but this one time, its far beyond my tolerance level.
They seem to have made a joke out of everything. Be it confession or respect that's required in a marriage. And i mean respect both ways.
I can connect with the missing each other part, but what after that.? A silly nok jhok that ends up no where.!!! What was the point of the scene then.?

After saying so much yesterday, the least Raman could do is apologize! :( But he is busy throwing his own tantrums. Ishita, she should be pissed. But clearly she is fine! LIKE SERIOUSLY.?? 😳

Its us who are suffering. Its just so useless ranting, it never helps because things never change!

As far as Subbu is concerned, well he is being thrown everywhere for the sake of drama! Lord, its so annoying to see him wagging around Ishita like a pup! 😳 She has clearly moved on dude, its time you should!

That's the longest I have ever ranted on your thread..🤣 But just needed to.. :( To just end it, baseless episode with nothing to look forward to!!

i just pray the coming up confession is worth it. ☺️

@Anu quoting this to say - DITTO DITTO 😆 😆
Mujhe bhi same to same feelings aayi 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: beckysharp


Sorry Gan, I hope I am not treading on any toes whilst responding to this comment. Also, this is not a Raman V/S Ishita post. I love both equally and am always Team IshRa.
Raman, definitely has a very complicated past. The woman, who he loved very very much, walked out on their marriage with their six year old son leaving behind an infant , barely 6 months old and a shy, geeky, nerdy man who was unable to fulfill her material desires and wants. She spewed so much vitriol and venom that the 6 year old child was brainwashed into believing that his father was a monster. He was so scarred that he changed from a sweet loving young man into this embittered, angry man unable to even look at his daughter because she reminded him of his unfaithful wife !

Now coming to Ishita, what is her past ? Nothing... It is a bed of roses ! The man she was in love with from the time that she was 15, the man she thought she would spend the rest of her life with, the man who she thought was her life and pillar of strength rejected her on the day of their engagement, because of circumstances beyond her control and out of her hands. what is her past ? It is a bed of roses !

She had to listen to the woman who would have been her mother in law, continuously taunt her for her medical condition in public.. what is her past ? Just a bed of roses !

Being continuously rejected by a variety of suitors, due to her medical condition and taking it all in her stride without faltering and keeping a smile and an outwardly calm demeanor so that her parents don't realise how much she hurts ! What is her past ? It is a bed of roses !

Finally, she meets a man who knows her medical condition and agrees to marry her, but on the day of engagement takes a step back due to her stand for her family.. what is her past ? Nothing but a bed of roses !

Raman and Ishita are both victims of their loved ones as well as the circumstances ! It is very easy to discount one characters' pain and emphasize others because we love one character more than the other !

Both of them have lived through tremendous trauma... And both deserve peace and happiness in their lives !

#iloveputtarandbiwi
#teamishraforever !



Well, if you wanted to see it in a Raman vs Ishita angle, then I would like to clarify I didn't mean it that way. "It is very easy to discount one characters' pain and emphasize others because we love one character more than the other !"--so this kinda accusation sounds a bit harsh. Perhaps you got confused seeing my DP. LOL.

I guess the confusion was arisen when I wrote, "What is Ishita's past?". But I sort of elaborated what I meant by that in the next few lines. "What I'm trying to say that there's no single thing of Ishita's past remains now that can haunt Ishita and Raman."

And, I stand by it. The past we talked about was Subbu, not her insecurities. Since Ishita has got love (Raman and Ruhi) in her life, her insecurities from the past will automatically get healed. For an instance, if she were married to Prateek and she would have been in love with him now. Do you think Subbu is STILL needed to get rid of her insecurities? Or Prateek's love would have been enough? I will choose the later. In real life, there are many "barren" women who get rejected by their long time lovers and other suitors as well but once they find their soulmates , slowly but surely they get rid of their insecurities. They don't need their ex-lovers presence, assurance or apologies to overcome their traumas. Just the way Raman didn't need Shagun's presence, Ishita's love, care and concern was enough for him.

Let's assume, one fine day Raman wakes up and starts to think--hadn't Ishita been a "damaged" (infertile) soul, would she marry a divorced guy like me? Would her parent agree to marry her off with a guy like me who's come with a lot of baggage? We all know, he won't ever think in this way now coz he is over these sort of insecurities. Why? Because of Ishita's love and it is certainly not a one way traffic. Just the way Ishita healed Raman's past wound's, Raman did the same for her. That's how love works! Not to mention, Ruhi's love for Ishita is also there, always.

That's why I said Ishita's past (Subbu) has no significance now and the past rather her insecurities from the past that you mentioned are/will be healed by Raman and Ruhi. Ishita doesn't need Subbu for that. Just the same way Raman didn't need Shagun or her apologies.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#53
FACT: IF hates me... double posts, not posting, deleted posts... 🤢

Okay to make up for this mess i'll post some reminiscing ISHRA gifs here later... and maybe some positivity, cool?

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Posted: 10 years ago
#54
I liked the last 5 minutes. I ffed Dubbu. I concur wholeheartedly with Anu @RomComFan regarding my regard for Ishita diminishing if Dubbu is what she chose to love for 12 years.

The confession set up is v tacky. I expected more class from Puttar.

However, I will probably be gushing the loudest when the confession happens. My brain is fried. YHM has reduced my capacity for intelligent and rational thought.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Heyy Gan
i maybe just in a minority...there could be something more in this subbu's track which is not been seen as off now...this char is just being settled...its hardly so much there,..as much i see sudden coming up arrival yest or today i get more doubt on this sudden presence around..i still think cv's r not openly this thing fully..he is still a surprise to what will come due to subbu's presence in ishra Life...
i still its so soon to comment over him...
i maybe see bit annoying due to actors not able to pull off the char on acting terms...
but i keeping my comments reserve...due to off-screen personal life lead is not available..this subbu part shifted till more things will get settled around in terms of side stories...
what i wanted when we all used to see subbu want bk is like a closure to ishita's past...her more opening towards her feelings which she still reserves to herself...
where its still there...
we all wanted simple thing to get a closure but an actor entering...as char which cant be as simple to show in terms of show..where now he is shown he lost his family is loner...
now is shown hovering around ishita...knows all her whereabouts..does it look normal..No its doesnt in any sense looks simple...
we have to wait to whole thing to get unfold...

coming to episode i enjoyed it totally...i dont have anything else to say without going into depth of what Ishra relationship is all about
they r individuals...they r couple...they r in love... they have ego issues too...but all they even cant live without each-other...

its like a relation we have with parents...how much children-parent fight..parents gets angry one children...but do they stop loving the children..they do so many mistakes...but than next day things get f9 b/w child & parent
couple relationship is somewhere like this...husband says something & wife says something...than they fight anger goes up but than love make them fonder for each-other...
so couple should keep everything in b/w them forever what they said to other...how will relation work...
than its only solution is divorce...
yes raman has anger issues...ishita knows well...both have ego issues both know well..but will is end of relationship due to ego & anger issues...
if there is major thing like rinki..ishita also says want to end the relation...than bhalla & iyer's talking about could be understandable...
where its couple's fight its better couple resolve that's where parallel of rinki-mihir & raman-ishita is drawn...
as i see them fighting & having ego issues but than they also want to be with-other ..it makes me get more fond of them..
i see how they manage in there minds that its about each-other its about there love..they cant live with-other...
how raman wanted she cums bk..how she wanted him to call her bk..just tells in there minds its more about each-other...even if at moment ego is clashing..ego eventually will let it go...

"Nobody sees anybody truly but all through the flaws of their own egos. That is the way we all see ...each other in life. Vanity, fear, desire, competition-- all such distortions within our own egos-- condition our vision of those in relation to us. Add to those distortions to our own egos the corresponding distortions in the egos of others, and you see how cloudy the glass must become through which we look at each other. That's how it is in all living relationships except when there is that rare case of two people who love intensely enough to burn through all those layers of opacity and see each other's naked hearts."

Tennessee Williams

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Posted: 10 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: elene93



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Let's assume, one fine day Raman wakes up and starts to think--hadn't Ishita been a "damaged" (infertile) soul, would she marry a divorced guy like me? Would her parent agree to marry her off with a guy like me who's come with a lot of baggage? We all know, he won't ever think in this way now coz he is over these sort of insecurities. Why? Because of Ishita's love and it is certainly not a one way traffic. Just the way Ishita healed Raman's past wound's, Raman did the same for her. That's how love works! Not to mention, Ruhi's love for Ishita is also there, always.



Please note, your dp has absolutely nothing to do with my response ! Most of my friends on the forum have RKB as dp ! I love RKB too, but my adoration of Aunty Acid transcends RKB, hence my dp !

Well, May I say, one fine day Ishita might wake up and ask the same question ? Would Raman marry her if he did not already have two children ? After all the love / rant of ghar ka chirag is very well known by one and all ! would he love her if he knew that she is unable to give birth to his ghar ka chirag ?

Past is past.. and trauma is trauma ! You never know when it comes to haunt you.

I respect you view about Ishita's past ! But the trauma never leaves ! It hurts u somewhere, and the question is equal for both Raman and Ishita !

Since this will continue ad infinitum, let us agree to disagree respectfully !
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Posted: 10 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: RomComFan

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WARNING:Ramblings of a disillusioned Biwi fan ahead😭

Here's the thing that saddens me the most about this whole track besides the fact despite generally phenomenal talent and potential to be one of Ishu's most defining moments this track is going down the tubes... I thought , I hoped... that despite the way it came about and the way it ended bringing Subbu in would give me a glimpse into Ishu's past, it didn't . I thought bringing Subbu in would give more dimension to Bala... it didn't- well it id, just not the way I hoped.

I thought bringing Subbu in would give me an idea of the kind of man that Ishita was attracted to before she 'found another Ishita' in her relation with RKB... all I see is piece of wet cardboard with no personality... i see nothing. I don't know if it makes sense, but despite well... everything... I can kind of see what the kind of man Raman 'Happy' Bhalla was might have seen in Shagun Aurora, even without the exterior.. she gave him a sense of purpose,pride a kind of self confidence and desire to be and do better. And for me, i wanted to see what kind of man ishita Iyer chose for herself... but all I got from the Dubbu on our screen is a clingy friend who has no other appeal ...i don't get it.

Ishita iyer was fiesty and sweet ... this is what she wanted ? I refuse to believe this. This man, like Aru said, this Dubbu is not the man I envisioned Ishita Iyer choosing for herself.. he's not worthy. And he makes me question Ishita Iyer. And for that I am hella pissed at the CVs.🤔

He's this man now, fine... but he was this pathetic then too? So what did she see in him? What are we supposed to see in him? What does that tell us about our heroine? As weird as it sounds I feel like meeting this Dubbu has reduced my respect of Ishita, she changed a bit in my mind hen i met this wet chalk ex fiancee.. and that makes me sad.

Puttar is the love of her life but he is a is love that came by chance, she never chose him, she chose Ruhi. But this , this is the man she chose? Really? That totally redefines who Ishita Iyer was in my mind... and I hate that. Because I liked Ishita Iyer before, as much as i liked Happy Bhalla before.- yes i love RKB and JKR a lot more but I still liked who they were before and this Dubbu revelation just makes me like her not so much... and I hate it. They're messing with the present portrayals of the characters so I cling to the past ones, and now they are messing with the past ones too? UGH!



The CVs have managed to disappoint me yet again...I am not even looking forward to the dimly lit club lighting and left over Valentines ballon used confession anymore... Why CVs , Why?



POST EDITED coz IF loved to play games with my
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Anu 🤗

Well for me I feel that what Ishita shared with Subbu is something what we call as puppy love...they were probably best friends that progressed to them deciding to get married...and subbu's whole premise of breaking up with Ishita kinda defined the loser that he's...and so I had not much expectation as far as Subbu was concerned. However I had expected the 'opening of can of worms' about Ishita's insecurity, her scars from her 12 yr old relationship with subbu's return...There the CVs failed me as a viewer. And the biggest disappointment is the choice of actor to portray Subbu as frankly he doesn't have any screen presence to create any kind of impact to unsettle the equation in the strong presence of KP and DT as actors. Wish they had taken their time to select the actor.

I agree with you the CVs failed. For me I feel that the care they took in establishing and delving into Raman's past is lacking in case of Ishita...so they are just taking an easier route or simply they dont care as YHM has a core audience who somehow would be loyal to the show irrespective of ridiculous episodes as frankly as human beings we fail sometimes to wean ourselves of things that are routine to us. So we created the monster and now we have to live with it I guess.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Gan-



Anu I am with you in all those frustrations...they have truly turned Ishra relationship as a joke. Talk about mature writing...that's so over-rated..the YHM CVs have proved it to us since their move to 7:30 slot so many times over. It's better we get into the program and stop complaining as frankly they give a rat's a** to what we think.

Confession...frankly the heart shaped balloons kinda have been a turn off as I had expected Ishra confession to be something off-beat and not so cliched. but hey who knows, the CVS might surprise us as wed forget everything and get all gushy as Ishra has thet kinda affect on us😆



WORD G!
They absolutely don't give a sh*t about what the viewers want. Unless and until the hammer of the falling ratings falls on their thick heads, they never wake up. 😳
The creative brains which gave us the golden phase of YHM are long lost not. The same reason being, i have stopped complaining too knowing I may only be wasting my energy over it. But sometimes, you just can't help it.Today was one of those days.! :(

Coming to the confession, to be honest..being what ishRa are, even i for once expected a different and classy confession but the number of times this has been delayed and stretched endlessly without reason kinda just kills your expectations. Moreover like you mentioned, whatever IshRa do interms of romance just attacks me right in the heart. So i can't even complain even if i want to..😆

I am a hopeless fan when to comes to their romance. I guess i am not alone here, its the same everywhere. So I for one am looking forward to it. Unless the CV's have another abnormality attack and things change! 😆 I guess it is happening this time.. Wishful thinking! :P 🤣
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Posted: 10 years ago
#59

Originally posted by: Veeann

I liked the last 5 minutes. I ffed Dubbu. I concur wholeheartedly with Anu @RomComFan regarding my regard for Ishita diminishing if Dubbu is what she chose to love for 12 years.

The confession set up is v tacky. I expected more class from Puttar.

However, I will probably be gushing the loudest when the confession happens. My brain is fried. YHM has reduced my capacity for intelligent and rational thought.



V I'm so with in the same boat about confession set up pics that I saw and what I'm going to do when it airs

IDK I really had loved the airport confession promo and still wish the CVs had gone that route as that would have been more Ishra than this staged Valentiney set up. But I truly hope the CVs surprises us in a good way. Rest DT and KP romancing as Ishra does something to my otherwise logical brain...so I would be gushing most likely too😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: beckysharp


Please note, your dp has absolutely nothing to do with my response ! Most of my friends on the forum have RKB as dp ! I love RKB too, but my adoration of Aunty Acid transcends RKB, hence my dp !

Well, May I say, one fine day Ishita might wake up and ask the same question ? Would Raman marry her if he did not already have two children ? After all the love / rant of ghar ka chirag is very well known by one and all ! would he love her if he knew that she is unable to give birth to his ghar ka chirag ?

Past is past.. and trauma is trauma ! You never know when it comes to haunt you.

I respect you view about Ishita's past ! But the trauma never leaves ! It hurts u somewhere, and the question is equal for both Raman and Ishita !

Since this will continue ad infinitum, let us agree to disagree respectfully !



@Bold: Then why did I get the special treatment?🤔

@Red: That's my point. "That one fine day" will never come in their life, they will never think in this way because they know their mutual love will overcome these hurdles (insecurities).


@Blue: So do you mean to say Raman or Ishita will NEVER EVER get rid of their past traumas? Well, real life doesn't work in this way. Traumas do get cured fully.

Well, I have hand-on experience on observing something far worse. I had to work on a long project that involved rape victims and acid violence survivors. Most of them have overcome their past traumas, not only that they are leading very peaceful life. We were amazed to see that most of them overcame their traumas when they got in touch with their loved ones. Yes, at times they feel sad remembering those horrific incidents but that's it. Those incidents neither came back to haunt them nor ruined their peaceful life.

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