Raman's guilt and Ishita's losing hope...*UPDATED* - Page 9

Originally posted by: drishtimaurya

It is about their relationship yes but not about who loves whom more,no comparison there. A dialogue like that can have dire consequences if taken seriously. And Raman is already in a guilt ridden state. That is just what i mean.

calm down

I'm calm..I usually lose it on the CVs ...not on people in the thread expressing another opinion,😆

I was just trying to clear some confusion about what you meant...

People say extreme stuff to their spouses at the heat of an moment...if all those have dire consequences then no marital relationship would survive...and if I can understand what caused Raman to lash out at Ishita that day, I feel Ishita's words can also be justified. Just my POV.

Where did I say you bashed Ishita?

Originally posted by: krishy13

Instead of Ishita vs. Raman & right vs. wrong, why don't we shed light on the hurt every single character (including Shagun) is experiencing. I still haven't processed today's episode but there is sheer brilliance we saw today...

We see a mother's plight over losing her daughter.
We see a father's plight over losing both his kids and being the cause of his wife's breakdown.
We see 2 elderly parents seeing their children and grandchildrens lives falling apart.
We see Bhalla siblings seeing their brother who just recently came out of darkness plunge back into it.
We see the Iyer sisters & Bala see their sister plunge into desperation and all her insecurities ripped out in the open again.
We see an adopted brother see his sister creating havoc yet again in his father-like brother & adopted sister's life.
We see a vicous woman using her children as a pawn (one who she does have an ounce of love for) because she has been rejected twice over and left to try.
We see two young children on one side being used as pawns in a sick game and on the other side being shielded from the ugly side of a divorce.

From all the complaining we did during the Sautan Sagas...I for one am grateful the CVs are giving this beautiful and old-school YHM like story.

I haven't been this moved by a YHM track in while, and while I have trouble watching all this hurt on screen...it's beautiful at the moment.

Yes we still see some OTT stuff at times but they need that for shock and awe, and the core of the story is still very YHM-esque!

Just my two cents though! Love everyone's POV here...y'all rock! 🤗

Originally posted by: GanBarunFan

I'm calm..I usually lose it on the CVs ...not on people in the thread expressing another opinion,😆

I was just trying to clear some confusion about what you meant...

People say extreme stuff to their spouses at the heat of an moment...if all those have dire consequences then no marital relationship would survive...and if I can understand what caused Raman to lash out at Ishita that day, I feel Ishita's words can also be justified. Just my POV.

Where did I say you bashed Ishita?

updated post on pg 1...

Originally posted by: drishtimaurya

Well everybody everywhere thot the same. People commented some things on this thread too😔That Ishita bashers have come here.

But here the prob is that her words are supplemented by actions too. Some may not take things spoken in distress seriously, but actions like running away are serious stuff. Its Cvs stupidity that the time when Raman did that they turned it into a joke😕

I cannot talk about others but I have not called anyone a basher.

Well CVs take things to an extreme to create drama...I agree with you about that. they have done it with both the characters..

Having said that to tell you frankly I have to see how that scene is played out before I decide to react...as of now the only parts I have seen are the part in pre cap and some OLV snaps...let's revisit this when the episode airs.

Okay I haven't caught the epi yet.
Disclaimer: I am reacting to the story Gan and VJ's beautiful collages say and the ongoing discussion.

From where I see it, Ishita for once is being selfish and only thinking and processing what she's feeling. This is probably the worst day of her life(really it's been only a day!!!). I would have been surprised if she reacted any other way, especially wrt Raman.

The poor woman is losing it, is not receptive to anybody's consoling... is distraught, desperate, needs a way to keep her daughter with her, cannot let her go even for a weekend. I don't find it difficult to explain her behavior.

As for her lashing out at Raman-mind you he's the only one she believes can change the situation. If that means lashing out at him just so he understands how desperate she is-so be it. When a couple faces such traumatic/crisis situations in life, one of the couples has to step up and support the more emotional distraught one. Ishita has always been that one but this time it has to be Raman no matter how guilt ridden and hurt he is. This issue is just too close to Ishita's heart and she is incapable of seeing anybody else' hurt.

And I find nothing wrong with that attitude-infact it is s very natural one. Once things cool down, everything settles down, and they are past this hurdle... they will be able to talk abt this more rationally.

I don't know if I made sense but I don't know how else to explain the way Ishita is reacting is a very normal response.

I hope you don't mind me interpreting again but I just have to say something to the "Ishita bashers" ( i dont what else to call people who have a difference of opinion on her).

Beautiful collages G, which tell a story in itself. I am a silent reader of your post to an extent that I read your update and then decide to watch the episode. You are very lucky to have a lovely bunch of mature, open minded people who think out of the box. It's always a pleasure to read their discussions.

Originally posted by: Wings-of-Fire

How does it feel when you lose your hopes, your dreams and your miracle in one instant? Can anyone guess? What do you do then? Do you live? Do you die? Do you go mad? Do you kill? ...
What do you do?

I don't think anyone here knows the answers to those questions, neither do I and neither does Ishita!

I have no words to describe what I saw or what I felt watching Ishita's actions. I'm not that strong or gifted with words to do that!

People can say I'm ignoring Raman's pain and in a way I am! He had been away from both of his kids for six long years! He already knows how it feels to lose his kids- not that it's supposed to make his pain any lesser but it still does! At least to me! He knows the answers to my questions except the miracle one. He knows and we saw what it made him.

Tonight Ishita was standing there- on the brink of losing her sun! Can the earth exist without the sun? If it does, will it be the same earth?

@ I wouldn't ignore Raman's pain too...here was this man who was looking at having finally his world perfect with Ishita, Ruhi and Adi all with him...and one moment of lapse he's staring at a world where he might lose everything and this time he blames it on himself..Can you imagine the pain and despair he's going through? On one hand it's his own pain, then the realization how this is going to tear apart Ruhi and Ishita both...it's not a fun position to be in.

Today both were staring at doom, atleast she could lash at him...he can't even do that.

So I can't but feel sorry for both of them today...especially the scenes where he holds Ruhi and she holds Ruhi while lying next to her...they were both equally gut wrenching.

Originally posted by: Badtameez_Dil

Too Many emotions were there..

This track seem too High On emotions...

it very drain...

gives a shiver to see...

Gan ur collages just makes me all more emotions..make me feel more...

they r so BEAUTIFULLY reflecting all the emotions & relationships of this show...which makes us holding to this show...sigh

so much telling the emotions & story in itself...

Loved how u reflected there relationship ...what YHM is all about...

is This...

today ws RaRu..IshRa ..IshRu all were there...

to make there Love feel...

My Favorite Moment to be RaRu

Its rarest to watch Papa-Beti Moments these days in the show...I Loved how Raman ws hugging ruhi like father wont let his little one to harm..crying like what he with his own hands..made her far from him...with one mistake...crying like asking for a sorry from her...sigh..

it ws heart-touching moment to watch...

IshRu Moment with those Flashbacks bought bk from where they begun with..where they standing now...ws Beautifully shown there relationship...

the Love Ishu has with ruhi..made me remember when amma told her horoscope she will be meeting some1 who she will fall in love...lovely to watch...

rest for episode For IshRa I somewhere this ws Needed...like this is testing times for them...

there Base of relationship is Ruhi...before husband-wife they r parents...somewhere they need to create foundation where there foundation is there Love for each-other also...

With Ishu telling Raman there foundation is Ruhi has hit there relationship...(atleast i feel so rest it can be said she said in anger or something..but somewhere...there ws something lacking) same is with Raman everytime him telling her something...

If shagun takes away ruhi with her...

this can lead to rebuild there relationship again...on there own...

Im looking forward to watch...episode just laid the base...how Long cv's will take let's c

its unpredictable...But i would Love to see if cv's show there relationship building up at own...

what will & where it will lead to on this track or whether it will be mother v/s mother track...

but in all im looking for this relationship which just hit rock bottom...which looked like everything has settled in there life & in there relation...they were taking to next step moving on...they were making there relation complete...

Now its somewhere changed again...

@bold hmmm while watching the episode I didn't think it this way...but I can see what you're saying...and probably you're right...they need to explore their relationship as a couple as till now they have always been Ruhi's parents first. I thought they had crossed that stage, but if this brings forth their weakness vis a vis relationship as a couple and explores that indepth ... why not?

I loved your last paragraph the most...makes a lot of sense